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Re: Sensible Muslims Doing Sensible Muslim Things in the Name of Islam
« Reply #150 on: January 12, 2015, 08:29:08 AM »
I'm guessing the Charlie Hebdo folks are pretty liberal and would have been quite critical of American meddling in the Middle East - but you know they all had to be slaughtered cause they drew some offensive cartoons.... Anyway it's still Americas fault, somehow.
nobody (nobody) is defending the terrorists

No, but people are blaming the terrorism on prior Mideast policy, which I'm just pointing out is a pretty stupid thing to say.

These people are the same savages now that they were 100 years ago. That's one of the reasons why the Mideast was carved up the way it was by the more civilized nations.

The main problem is Islam itself. It has more doctrinal impediments to modernization, peace, and civilized behavior than other religions. As Bill Maher correctly points out, Islam just seems to have a lot more bad ideas than other religions. "There is something wrong with the Orchard."

Ignoring cause and effect is pretty rough ridin' stupid too.

True, but no dumber than inventing a cause for an effect that doesn't fit with the facts.

You know who totally supported western foreign policy? Those 200 or so Pakistani children massacred last month. Or that entire village of people massacred in Nigeria. #AmericasChickensComingHomeToRoost.
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Re: Sensible Muslims Doing Sensible Muslim Things in the Name of Islam
« Reply #151 on: January 12, 2015, 09:00:41 AM »
I really dislike websites that blast a video at me when I click on a link.

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Re: Sensible Muslims Doing Sensible Muslim Things in the Name of Islam
« Reply #152 on: January 12, 2015, 11:32:08 AM »
I'm guessing the Charlie Hebdo folks are pretty liberal and would have been quite critical of American meddling in the Middle East - but you know they all had to be slaughtered cause they drew some offensive cartoons.... Anyway it's still Americas fault, somehow.
nobody (nobody) is defending the terrorists

No, but people are blaming the terrorism on prior Mideast policy, which I'm just pointing out is a pretty stupid thing to say.

These people are the same savages now that they were 100 years ago. That's one of the reasons why the Mideast was carved up the way it was by the more civilized nations.

The main problem is Islam itself. It has more doctrinal impediments to modernization, peace, and civilized behavior than other religions. As Bill Maher correctly points out, Islam just seems to have a lot more bad ideas than other religions. "There is something wrong with the Orchard."

Ignoring cause and effect is pretty rough ridin' stupid too.

True, but no dumber than inventing a cause for an effect that doesn't fit with the facts.

You know who totally supported western foreign policy? Those 200 or so Pakistani children massacred last month. Or that entire village of people massacred in Nigeria. #AmericasChickensComingHomeToRoost.

If you don't understand why previous actions and policies have caused animosity towards the west then I'm not really sure you understand the topic at all. 

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Re: Sensible Muslims Doing Sensible Muslim Things in the Name of Islam
« Reply #153 on: January 12, 2015, 11:33:35 AM »
I wouldn't be surprised if those people massacred didn't support western policy in their regions.

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Re: Sensible Muslims Doing Sensible Muslim Things in the Name of Islam
« Reply #154 on: January 12, 2015, 11:42:43 AM »

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/09/21/why-do-they-hate-us-its-a-pretty-long-list/
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Marayati — perhaps best known for equating jihad with Patrick Henry’s stance on “give me liberty or give me death” — explained that Muslim views are shaped around what they consider a series of U.S. foreign policy “blunders,” including a belief that:

The U.S. consistently supports Middle East dictators
The U.S. “sanctions” anti-Islam propaganda
Has controlled the natural and industrial resources of Muslim countries
“Blindly” supports Israel against the Palestinians
Kills Muslim civillians indiscriminately in drone attacks
“Destroyed Iraq” in both 1991 and 2003
Maintains a military presence throughout the Middle East
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Re: Sensible Muslims Doing Sensible Muslim Things in the Name of Islam
« Reply #155 on: January 12, 2015, 12:16:51 PM »

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/09/21/why-do-they-hate-us-its-a-pretty-long-list/
""""""
Marayati — perhaps best known for equating jihad with Patrick Henry’s stance on “give me liberty or give me death” — explained that Muslim views are shaped around what they consider a series of U.S. foreign policy “blunders,” including a belief that:

The U.S. consistently supports Middle East dictators
The U.S. “sanctions” anti-Islam propaganda
Has controlled the natural and industrial resources of Muslim countries
“Blindly” supports Israel against the Palestinians
Kills Muslim civillians indiscriminately in drone attacks
“Destroyed Iraq” in both 1991 and 2003
Maintains a military presence throughout the Middle East
"""""


LOL, I don't think you understand what's going on here
 

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Re: Sensible Muslims Doing Sensible Muslim Things in the Name of Islam
« Reply #156 on: January 12, 2015, 12:49:22 PM »
I bet Joe Biden would have loved a free trip to Paris. :sad: http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2015/01/media-slam-obamas-paris-snub-200928.html

I guess Obama was too busy polishing his Nobel, or dusting off his veto pen?

Eric Holder? He was probably too busy marching in another civil rights protest. Er, I guess he was actually in Paris at the time, but just couldn't make the event.

Wasn't a big deal though. Only 40 or so other world leaders.

Or maybe Obama just doesn't agree. This is the guy who recently blamed Benghazi on a YouTube video and told the UN "the future has no place for those who insult the prophet of Islam." There's a bunch of terrorists who couldn't agree more.
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Re: Sensible Muslims Doing Sensible Muslim Things in the Name of Islam
« Reply #157 on: January 12, 2015, 12:54:07 PM »
a US face is counterproductive in this situation.

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« Reply #158 on: January 12, 2015, 12:56:52 PM »
I'm guessing the Charlie Hebdo folks are pretty liberal and would have been quite critical of American meddling in the Middle East - but you know they all had to be slaughtered cause they drew some offensive cartoons.... Anyway it's still Americas fault, somehow.
nobody (nobody) is defending the terrorists

No, but people are blaming the terrorism on prior Mideast policy, which I'm just pointing out is a pretty stupid thing to say.

These people are the same savages now that they were 100 years ago. That's one of the reasons why the Mideast was carved up the way it was by the more civilized nations.

The main problem is Islam itself. It has more doctrinal impediments to modernization, peace, and civilized behavior than other religions. As Bill Maher correctly points out, Islam just seems to have a lot more bad ideas than other religions. "There is something wrong with the Orchard."

Ignoring cause and effect is pretty rough ridin' stupid too.

True, but no dumber than inventing a cause for an effect that doesn't fit with the facts.

You know who totally supported western foreign policy? Those 200 or so Pakistani children massacred last month. Or that entire village of people massacred in Nigeria. #AmericasChickensComingHomeToRoost.

If you don't understand why previous actions and policies have caused animosity towards the west then I'm not really sure you understand the topic at all.

I'm not denying that prior (and current) policy causes animosity - but to pretend that that is a significant factor in terrorism is absurd. Islam itself is unfortunately the main reason. There are billions of poor and oppressed people the world over - not just Muslims. And yet only the Muslims have this pervasive an extent of radicalism and terrorism.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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Re: Sensible Muslims Doing Sensible Muslim Things in the Name of Islam
« Reply #159 on: January 12, 2015, 12:58:29 PM »
a US face is counterproductive in this situation.

:lol: Yeah, opposing terrorism is really counterproductive. Somebody could get hurt!
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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Re: Sensible Muslims Doing Sensible Muslim Things in the Name of Islam
« Reply #160 on: January 12, 2015, 01:01:26 PM »
a US face is counterproductive in this situation.

:lol: And yet the president of France walks arm in arm down the street with Netanyahu.
jesus christ. do you not understand my point?

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Re: Sensible Muslims Doing Sensible Muslim Things in the Name of Islam
« Reply #161 on: January 12, 2015, 01:04:59 PM »
a US face is counterproductive in this situation.

:lol: And yet the president of France walks arm in arm down the street with Netanyahu.
jesus christ. do you not understand my point?

I understand it perfectly. And, I repeat: :lol: This isn't a situation where the U.S. is offering clandestine support to Muslim countries to oppose terrorism - this is Paris, France. These are the cats who gifted us the Statue of Liberty. Weak-knee'd as they have been in recent conflicts, they used to be one of our strongest allies.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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« Reply #162 on: January 12, 2015, 01:10:28 PM »
a US face is counterproductive in this situation.

:lol: And yet the president of France walks arm in arm down the street with Netanyahu.
jesus christ. do you not understand my point?

I understand it perfectly. And, I repeat: :lol: This isn't a situation where the U.S. is offering clandestine support to Muslim countries to oppose terrorism - this is Paris, France. These are the cats who gifted us the Statue of Liberty. Weak-knee'd as they have been in recent conflicts, they used to be one of our strongest allies.
idk that you do. my point is that the cats who are making a point of their commitment to liberty don't need to be seen with the cats who torture and drone everything that moves.

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« Reply #163 on: January 12, 2015, 01:32:54 PM »
a US face is counterproductive in this situation.

:lol: And yet the president of France walks arm in arm down the street with Netanyahu.
jesus christ. do you not understand my point?

I understand it perfectly. And, I repeat: :lol: This isn't a situation where the U.S. is offering clandestine support to Muslim countries to oppose terrorism - this is Paris, France. These are the cats who gifted us the Statue of Liberty. Weak-knee'd as they have been in recent conflicts, they used to be one of our strongest allies.
idk that you do. my point is that the cats who are making a point of their commitment to liberty don't need to be seen with the cats who torture and drone everything that moves.

Yup, I got your point. That's why I'm laughing. The idea that is would be counterproductive to make a public show of opposition in Paris to an act of terrorism because we have taken the lead combat/intelligence role in fighting terrorism is pretty sad/funny.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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« Reply #164 on: January 12, 2015, 01:40:24 PM »
Never mind - turns out Obama was there afterall.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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« Reply #165 on: January 12, 2015, 01:44:05 PM »
great job making this terrorist attack about a photo op, conservatives.

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« Reply #166 on: January 12, 2015, 01:49:30 PM »
I'm guessing the Charlie Hebdo folks are pretty liberal and would have been quite critical of American meddling in the Middle East - but you know they all had to be slaughtered cause they drew some offensive cartoons.... Anyway it's still Americas fault, somehow.
nobody (nobody) is defending the terrorists

No, but people are blaming the terrorism on prior Mideast policy, which I'm just pointing out is a pretty stupid thing to say.

These people are the same savages now that they were 100 years ago. That's one of the reasons why the Mideast was carved up the way it was by the more civilized nations.

The main problem is Islam itself. It has more doctrinal impediments to modernization, peace, and civilized behavior than other religions. As Bill Maher correctly points out, Islam just seems to have a lot more bad ideas than other religions. "There is something wrong with the Orchard."

Ignoring cause and effect is pretty rough ridin' stupid too.

True, but no dumber than inventing a cause for an effect that doesn't fit with the facts.

You know who totally supported western foreign policy? Those 200 or so Pakistani children massacred last month. Or that entire village of people massacred in Nigeria. #AmericasChickensComingHomeToRoost.

If you don't understand why previous actions and policies have caused animosity towards the west then I'm not really sure you understand the topic at all.

I'm not denying that prior (and current) policy causes animosity - but to pretend that that is a significant factor in terrorism is absurd. Islam itself is unfortunately the main reason. There are billions of poor and oppressed people the world over - not just Muslims. And yet only the Muslims have this pervasive an extent of radicalism and terrorism.

It is a significant factor dumbass.

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« Reply #167 on: January 12, 2015, 01:51:21 PM »
Most terrorist attacks are in places with really unstable governments (like Afghanistan and Iraq)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2014

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« Reply #168 on: January 12, 2015, 01:51:40 PM »
self loathing Americans are the weirdest.

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« Reply #170 on: January 12, 2015, 02:37:29 PM »
Most terrorist attacks are in places with really unstable governments (like Afghanistan and Iraq)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2014

Funny - you don't see much terrorism in South American or Central American countries, home to some of the most corrupt governments on the planet. Violence seems to be almsot entirely drug/kidnapping related. Over a billion poor and oppressed people. American intervention in propping up corrupt regimes. What's different... Hmmm..... Oh yeah, Catholics.
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« Reply #171 on: January 12, 2015, 02:53:44 PM »
Most terrorist attacks are in places with really unstable governments (like Afghanistan and Iraq)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2014

Funny - you don't see much terrorism in South American or Central American countries, home to some of the most corrupt governments on the planet. Violence seems to be almsot entirely drug/kidnapping related. Over a billion poor and oppressed people. American intervention in propping up corrupt regimes. What's different... Hmmm..... Oh yeah, Catholics.

yes religion is the only difference

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« Reply #172 on: January 12, 2015, 03:13:36 PM »
Most terrorist attacks are in places with really unstable governments (like Afghanistan and Iraq)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2014

Funny - you don't see much terrorism in South American or Central American countries, home to some of the most corrupt governments on the planet. Violence seems to be almsot entirely drug/kidnapping related. Over a billion poor and oppressed people. American intervention in propping up corrupt regimes. What's different... Hmmm..... Oh yeah, Catholics.

Well, the drug cartels do murder people, kidnap, dismember bodies, etc. It seems the biggest difference between the two is that we don't call it terrorism in the west.

Oh yeah, Catholics.
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« Reply #173 on: January 12, 2015, 03:43:32 PM »
Most terrorist attacks are in places with really unstable governments (like Afghanistan and Iraq)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2014

Funny - you don't see much terrorism in South American or Central American countries, home to some of the most corrupt governments on the planet. Violence seems to be almsot entirely drug/kidnapping related. Over a billion poor and oppressed people. American intervention in propping up corrupt regimes. What's different... Hmmm..... Oh yeah, Catholics.

Well, the drug cartels do murder people, kidnap, dismember bodies, etc. It seems the biggest difference between the two is that we don't call it terrorism in the west.

Oh yeah, Catholics.

Right. We don't call gang violence terrorism here, either. Now, if those gangs are murdeing people because they're insulting the Pope, or teaching girls how to read, or for not converting to Catholicism, then I'd call that terrorism. Is any of that happening sud of the border?
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« Reply #174 on: January 12, 2015, 03:54:46 PM »
Most terrorist attacks are in places with really unstable governments (like Afghanistan and Iraq)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2014

Funny - you don't see much terrorism in South American or Central American countries, home to some of the most corrupt governments on the planet. Violence seems to be almsot entirely drug/kidnapping related. Over a billion poor and oppressed people. American intervention in propping up corrupt regimes. What's different... Hmmm..... Oh yeah, Catholics.

Well, the drug cartels do murder people, kidnap, dismember bodies, etc. It seems the biggest difference between the two is that we don't call it terrorism in the west.

Oh yeah, Catholics.

Right. We don't call gang violence terrorism here, either. Now, if those gangs are murdeing people because they're insulting the Pope, or teaching girls how to read, or for not converting to Catholicism, then I'd call that terrorism. Is any of that happening sud of the border?

Our gangs don't commonly use the same tactics as Middle Eastern terrorists. Mexican drug cartels do. If you don't consider dismembering somebody a form of terrorism, then I guess things are all rosy south of the US.