Author Topic: Starting Lineup Next Season and other commentary (Read 4140 times)

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **on:** January 04, 2015, 01:40:55 PM »

I'll lay out the skeleton and throw in some guesses, and somebody else who's knows better as to what's going on can fill in the blanks

QB - Rocket Arm Human Tank Hubener - All Conf QB, Heisman Finalist
RB - Crazy Legs Jones
FB - Gronk Gronk, etc. - All Conf
RT - Kleinsorge?
LT - Whitehair - All Conf
RG - Hayes?
LG -
C - Liddle (eligibility? )
TE - some giant guy that blocks well
WR - Judah - super stud
WR - Deante
WR -

SDE - Willis - all conf
WDE - Bryant - good player
NT - Geary - all conf
DT - Britz
LB - Riddle
LB - Lee
LB/NB -
CB - Burns - all conf
CB - McDaniel
S - Prewitt
S - Barnett - all conf, major stud

K - McMoneymatic - Groza Award
P - WGAF, Walsh or whatever

Obviously we return a solid secondary and front 4. LB is uncertain but I think we have a good pool to choose from with Davis, Mike Moore, Sizeloves, et al as options. Hopefully someone can pick up where Evans left off. Overall, defense is in good shape.

Offense is a return to the QB battering ram. No idea on the quality of the oline. WR and RB are huge question marks, but battering ram obviates wr and RB should get more room with a legit running threat (waters was no threat after the ou game and our running game obviously suffered). Looks like the offense will be weak, buts that's literally never the case with uncle Snyder so it will be good.

Solid kicking game and presumably we'll have the best return game for the 25th year in a row.

Note: anyone that fixes my list to include true freshman will be banned and sent to a work camp for being a dumbass.

cas4ksu · « **Reply #1 on:** January 04, 2015, 01:50:33 PM »

You hope to see Riddle, Derricott (provided he gets back in good graces), AJ Allen, and Clink all make the contributions that we had hoped on them making this year next year.

I think Kyle Klein will be in the mix at WR. Deante Burton really sucked this year. Had high hopes for him to emerge.

I think that we will have a more talented defense than normal for K-State, but does it really matter as long as we play the same terrible, ultra conservative scheme?

We will have everyone back on the OL except BJ. Typically the interior positions on the line are easier to replace than tackles, but BJ will still be tough to replace. Hopefully/Presumably our OL will be a bit better next season with what will could be a more run oriented offense.

cas4ksu · « **Reply #2 on:** January 04, 2015, 01:53:11 PM »

I'll also add, sorry SugarDick, that I think Delton has a legit chance to get on the field. I would put his chances of getting on the field in non-garbage time to be somewhere around 20-25%.

Pete · « **Reply #3 on:** January 04, 2015, 02:12:09 PM »

Every decent Juco WR and QB should be getting a ton of attention from us.

MixBerryCrunch · « **Reply #4 on:** January 04, 2015, 02:16:13 PM »

Quote from: cas4ksu on January 04, 2015, 01:53:11 PM

I'll also add, sorry SugarDick, that I think Delton has a legit chance to get on the field. I would put his chances of getting on the field in non-garbage time to be somewhere around 20-25%.

Barring injury or Delton being the biggest QB stud of all time I would bet just about anything that he redshirts. With how shitty our Oline was though I wouldn't be surprised to see Applegate? play.

MixBerryCrunch · « **Reply #5 on:** January 04, 2015, 02:17:35 PM »

Quote from: Pete on January 04, 2015, 02:12:09 PM

Every decent Juco WR and QB should be getting a ton of attention from us.

Steffy08 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 04, 2015, 02:18:35 PM »

Stiverson back next year, provided his leg is ok.

SteelCat · « **Reply #7 on:** January 04, 2015, 03:13:25 PM »

My guess.
LT-Whitehair
LG-Stiverson
C-Risner
RG-Hayes
RT-Allen
TE-Valentine
QB-Huebener
FB-Gronk
TB-C. Jones
WR-J Jones
WR-Davis
WR-Klein

DE-Willis
DE-Bryant
Rush DE-Riddle
DT-Britz
DT-Geary
LB-Moore
LB-Davis
NB-Starks
CB-McDaniel
CB-Burns
S-Barnett
S-Jackson

One position change I would like to see is Prewitt to WR, but I think we need him for depth at Safety and may be the starter by end of camp.

purpyslurpy · « **Reply #8 on:** January 04, 2015, 03:36:54 PM »

Quote from: SteelCat on January 04, 2015, 03:13:25 PM

My guess.
LT-Whitehair
LG-Stiverson
C-Risner
RG-Hayes
RT-Allen
TE-Valentine
QB-Huebener
FB-Gronk
TB-C. Jones
WR-J Jones West
WR-Davis
WR-Klein Cook

DE-Willis
DE-Bryant
Rush DE-Riddle
DT-Britz
DT-Geary Clinkscales
LB-Moore Riddle
LB-Davis
NB-Starks Jackson
CB-McDaniel
CB-Burns
S-Barnett
S-Jackson Prewett

One position change I would like to see is Prewitt to WR, but I think we need him for depth at Safety and may be the starter by end of camp.

Pretty reasonable. No way to tell at this point, but my guess is just a little different. I am hoping we can move Whitehair to LG. Allen to play LT. Stiverson over to RG. Hayes out to RT. Ash/Risner/etc. at center. I doubt that will be able to happen though. I hope to see Derricott back on the team and able to contribute as well.

PIPE · « **Reply #9 on:** January 04, 2015, 04:20:43 PM »

Will Davis at lb was alli needed to see......

Mixed-Nutz · « **Reply #10 on:** January 04, 2015, 04:36:58 PM »

QB - Rocket Arm Human Tank Hubener - All Conf QB, Heisman Finalist
RB - (Jones/Leverett/Warmack/Silmon/Barnes)Think it is really going to be a battle, I don't think their is a single RB that won't be in the Hunt.
FB - Gronk Gronk
RT - Brager / Fitzner
LT - Allen
RG - Hayes / Ash / Frantz (Stiverson has really suffered a bad injury)
LG - Whitehair (Got to get him back to guard)
C - Risner
TE - Small (Apparently the staff loves his speed)
WR- Heath (a lot of birds are singing)
WR - Judah / Davis (If the offense clicks for these guys, watch out)
WR - Deante / Klein

SDE - Willis
WDE - Bryant / Olomua / Wood
NT - Clinkscales / Geary (Clinkscales upside is to high)
DT - Britz
LB - Derricott /Riddle
LB - Lee / Riddle
LB/NB - Starks
CB - Burns
CB - McDaniel
S - Prewitt / Adams
S - Barnett

K - McMoneymatic
P - Walsh

GONNATEAMKILLU · « **Reply #11 on:** January 04, 2015, 05:09:42 PM »

QB- Hubener, Ertz, Laird
HB- Jones or Warmack, Leverett
FB- Gronkowski
WR- J. Jones, Davis
WR- Klein, Burton,
WR- Cook, Heath, West
TE- Valentine or Small
LT- Allen
LG- Whitehair
C- Risner
RG- Hayes
RT- Brager

DE- Willis, Wood
DT- Britz, Hood, Seiwert
DT- Clinkscales, Geary
DE- Bryant
LB- Lee/Moore (4-3 or Pass rush situations)
LB- Riddle, Davis
LB- Derricott (If really still on team), Sizelove, Tanking
CB- Burns, C. Moore
CB- McDaniel, Jackson
NB- Starks, Mack (When we play our typical nickel base)
S- Barnett, Newlan
S- Prewett, Adams

Mixed-Nutz · « **Reply #12 on:** January 04, 2015, 05:16:29 PM »

I think we have more pieces that have a chance than years in the past. I am a little shock that we didn't go after a JUCO offensive tackle.

scottwildcat · « **Reply #13 on:** January 04, 2015, 05:22:09 PM »

i mean, maybe we won't suck?

MixBerryCrunch · « **Reply #14 on:** January 04, 2015, 05:29:13 PM »

Anyone putting Clinks over Geary is rough ridin' delusional.

wetwillie · « **Reply #15 on:** January 04, 2015, 05:39:30 PM »

I could definitely go for a ground and pound ball control offense led by bazooka Joe and what has the potential to be a lynch mob lite type defense.

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #16 on:** January 04, 2015, 07:01:54 PM »

If Jackson is Nate Jackson, get him the eff off your lists.

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #17 on:** January 04, 2015, 07:02:39 PM »

T-Y for plugging in holes

Stevesie60 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 04, 2015, 08:08:22 PM »

Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 04, 2015, 07:02:39 PM

T-Y for plugging in holes

Katdaddy, stay away from this one, I'm begging you.....

Katpappy · « **Reply #19 on:** January 04, 2015, 08:57:48 PM »

Quote from: Stevesie60 on January 04, 2015, 08:08:22 PM

Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 04, 2015, 07:02:39 PM
T-Y for plugging in holes

Katdaddy, stay away from this one, I'm begging you.....

Cire · « **Reply #20 on:** January 04, 2015, 09:08:52 PM »

Will mike Moore be back?

purpyslurpy · « **Reply #21 on:** January 04, 2015, 09:17:54 PM »

He'll be back, but I can't see him being anything more than a backup LB and maybe back to a role of 3rd down pass rush. Nice depth, though.

Steffy08 · « **Reply #22 on:** January 04, 2015, 11:17:55 PM »

Mixed-nuts: was Stiverson's injury a career ender? That would really suck.

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #23 on:** January 04, 2015, 11:20:31 PM »

I suppose Shelley could get in as the NB

I had no idea we returned 4 starters on the oline. That's a positive.

DOD Take 2 · « **Reply #24 on:** January 04, 2015, 11:56:39 PM »

I thought Kyle Klein had an injury that forced him to give up football. Don't think anything was ever announced but thought someone said it on here. Could be wrong