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Re: 4 Team College Football Playoff
« Reply #125 on: December 07, 2014, 12:27:24 PM »
Condeleeza must have really been pms'ing pretty hard last night

Menopause bro, prolly can't sleep at night

With all the blood on her hands, I'd hope she already has trouble sleeping.

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Re: 4 Team College Football Playoff
« Reply #126 on: December 07, 2014, 12:28:32 PM »
So all this puts us in a shittier bowl, right?

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Re: 4 Team College Football Playoff
« Reply #127 on: December 07, 2014, 12:30:37 PM »
So all this puts us in a shittier bowl, right?

Even better chance to win!
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Re: 4 Team College Football Playoff
« Reply #128 on: December 07, 2014, 12:32:11 PM »
Who would the computers have chosen?

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Re: 4 Team College Football Playoff
« Reply #129 on: December 07, 2014, 12:33:19 PM »
Fsu Bama I think
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Re: 4 Team College Football Playoff
« Reply #130 on: December 07, 2014, 12:33:37 PM »
We're focusing on the number of conference games, but it's the number of overall games that are screwing with people.

The thirteenth game is that one last chance to either prove yourself or get tripped up.

I guarantee you that someone in that room said if TCU played a thirtieth game against, say, VT, they may have lost, too.

We're going to go to twelve one way or another.  Welcome Cincy and Memphis.

I don't even see how TCU playing a 13th game is even a talking point. They wouldn't have been in a championship game. The 2 best teams in a conference never are.

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Re: 4 Team College Football Playoff
« Reply #131 on: December 07, 2014, 12:33:49 PM »
So all this puts us in a shittier bowl, right?

Tcu and Baylor will prob both be at-large selections, so we're still headed to Alamo I'm guessing.

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Re: 4 Team College Football Playoff
« Reply #132 on: December 07, 2014, 12:34:33 PM »
So all this puts us in a shittier bowl, right?

Tcu and Baylor will prob both be at-large selections, so we're still headed to Alamo I'm guessing.

Yup - our slot holds as best Big 12 bowl outside of the elites

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Re: 4 Team College Football Playoff
« Reply #133 on: December 07, 2014, 12:34:57 PM »

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Re: 4 Team College Football Playoff
« Reply #134 on: December 07, 2014, 12:35:15 PM »
'96 #3 Nebraska lost to unranked Texas
'98 #2 K-State lost to #10 Texas A&M
'01 #3 Texas lost to #9 Colorado
'03 #1 Oklahoma lost to #15 Kansas State (OU still played for NC)
'07 #1 Missouri lost to #9 Oklahoma

I realize it was a different cfb landscape, but remember when the CCG was costing the Big XII spots in the national title game? 

If CCG and 'true champs' carry weight in the selection process then the 5 BCS conferences should all be required to have a CCG or full round robin with documented tie breaker to determine a champion.  The winners are automatic qualifiers in an 8 team (5 conf champs, 3 at large) playoff.

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Re: 4 Team College Football Playoff
« Reply #135 on: December 07, 2014, 01:04:50 PM »
Why is everyone putting this on Bowlsby for saying they were both champs? What the eff does that have to do with it? BCS is the better system.

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Re: 4 Team College Football Playoff
« Reply #136 on: December 07, 2014, 01:05:35 PM »
he's a pretty good scapegoat

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Re: 4 Team College Football Playoff
« Reply #137 on: December 07, 2014, 01:07:15 PM »
Also sounded like a total rough ridin' loser on espn
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Re: 4 Team College Football Playoff
« Reply #138 on: December 07, 2014, 01:08:33 PM »
A non-blue blood big 10 team would have gotten less respect than Baylor or TCU did imo.  Purdue wouldn't have gotten the bump up and then bump out.  Everybody would have just agreed they were out unless a bunch of teams above them lost.

I agree with that.  I think that will always be a weakness of this system.  It similarly (but less dramatically) impacts basketball tournament selection.

This was bound to happen when they chose a plus one rather than 6 or 8 teams.

It's pretty great that Ohio State gets to benefit from a conference championship now, after Tressel's Ohio State teams sat on their asses during championship week and watched the fallout.

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Re: 4 Team College Football Playoff
« Reply #139 on: December 07, 2014, 01:08:37 PM »
he's a pretty good scapegoat

Not really. The committee bases their rankings based on 1 random decision about who is the champion? What a useless sytem.

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Re: 4 Team College Football Playoff
« Reply #140 on: December 07, 2014, 01:11:31 PM »
I think the committee based their decision on who it would be less controversial to piss off, all the rest is smoke screen. Had Northwestern won the big 10 yesterday, well eff 'em.

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Re: 4 Team College Football Playoff
« Reply #141 on: December 07, 2014, 01:17:38 PM »
I'm kind of tempted to ignore the whole thing, but I guess I'll hope OSU and FSU gets crap-pounded. I don't really have much sympathy for Baylor, which should have scheduled someone in the non-con. TCU, on the other had, got screwed. But Gary Pat is kind of a dick.

Wasn't SMU a decent (bowl?) team when they were scheduled?

It's fine to say you should have a strong schedule, but sometimes a nice looking schedule turns to garbage. Michael Weinreb covered this re: TCU's quality win over Minnesota:

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I mean, I get the strength-of-schedule argument. I think it's important, in terms of driving more competitive early-season matchups in future years. I think it's fair to say that Baylor copped out (and it appears they may continue to cop out). But I also think you can make the case that TCU was essentially trying to cop out, too. When the Horned Frogs agreed to a home-and-home series with Minnesota, it was May of 2013. The Gophers were coming off a 6-7 season in which they won two Big Ten games, and defeated a weak Western Michigan team 28-23; by comparison, Buffalo was 4-8 in 2012 and defeated Western Michigan 29-24. This was not an attempt by TCU to truly boost its non-conference schedule – this was an attempt to secure a relatively easy victory over a major-conference opponent, which I suppose trumps Baylor's thrashing of a MAC team, but not by enough to trump a head-to-head result.

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/the-golden-gopher-effect-minnesota-and-college-footballs-chaos-theory-20141114#ixzz3LEzSJtKg

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Re: 4 Team College Football Playoff
« Reply #142 on: December 07, 2014, 01:17:47 PM »
TCU fans want a Baylor rematch in the Cotton Bowl. Interesting idea, but wouldn't piss-pounding non-con teams make a bigger statement.

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Re: 4 Team College Football Playoff
« Reply #143 on: December 07, 2014, 01:20:16 PM »
Who would the computers have chosen?
http://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare.htm

I wish this page was the official ranking for the CFP. Human rankings are stupid. :thumbsdown:

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Re: 4 Team College Football Playoff
« Reply #144 on: December 07, 2014, 01:21:03 PM »
I think the committee based their decision on who it would be less controversial to piss off, all the rest is smoke screen. Had Northwestern won the big 10 yesterday, well eff 'em.

That is an equally piece of crap reason.

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Re: 4 Team College Football Playoff
« Reply #145 on: December 07, 2014, 01:21:18 PM »
Welp, I was wrong.  What a weird day.
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Re: 4 Team College Football Playoff
« Reply #146 on: December 07, 2014, 01:23:34 PM »
Baylor, you should not have lost to WVU, they sucked.  TCU you should not have lost to Baylor, you had a 21 point lead in the 4th.  Take some personal responsibility.

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Re: 4 Team College Football Playoff
« Reply #147 on: December 07, 2014, 01:24:34 PM »
If KSU beats Baylor last night, does tcu get in? I think they might.

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Re: 4 Team College Football Playoff
« Reply #148 on: December 07, 2014, 01:25:10 PM »
If KSU beats Baylor last night, does tcu get in? I think they might.
nope, not a chance

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Re: 4 Team College Football Playoff
« Reply #149 on: December 07, 2014, 01:26:08 PM »
Welp the committee went with the chickenshit decision and elevated tOSU.

I could deal with Baylor jumping us but putting tOSU over both of us makes it clear that TCU and bible aggie got punished for being small schools.