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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #325 on: August 05, 2015, 06:07:33 PM »
I watched it.  didnt see him dragged.
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« Reply #326 on: August 06, 2015, 09:37:04 AM »
I want to see the cop's shoes. If he was dragged then there should be a significant amount of material removed where they dragged on the ground.
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« Reply #327 on: August 06, 2015, 10:59:32 AM »
edn has mind tricked some of you into actually considering the idea that the cop was dragged.  lol @ you.
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« Reply #328 on: August 06, 2015, 11:08:30 AM »
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« Reply #329 on: August 06, 2015, 11:17:57 AM »
Taxpayers of Chandler, get out your checkbook.
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« Reply #330 on: August 06, 2015, 11:36:31 AM »
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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #331 on: August 06, 2015, 11:38:30 AM »
I mean that cop is a rough ridin' sicko
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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #332 on: August 06, 2015, 11:46:51 AM »
Disgusting
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« Reply #333 on: August 06, 2015, 11:50:30 AM »
I'd encourage everyone to watch the whole video, like somehow arresting the lady naked almost wasn't the ickiest part.
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« Reply #334 on: August 06, 2015, 03:22:06 PM »
"When a cop shows up, I don't care if it is your house, you're not the one in charge"


Altered(possibly destroyed) evidence.  Lied on the formal report.  No discipline noted on his record.  Full pension.  Not fired. 

Allowed to retire. 

Just absolutely amazing.
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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #335 on: August 06, 2015, 03:31:46 PM »
Quote from: CNS on August 06, 2015, 03:22:06 PM
"When a cop shows up, I don't care if it is your house, you're not the one in charge"


Altered(possibly destroyed) evidence.  Lied on the formal report.  No discipline noted on his record.  Full pension.  Not fired. 

Allowed to retire. 

Just absolutely amazing.

the only thing amazing about it is that you're amazed.  have none of you people ever actually interacted with cops?
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« Reply #336 on: August 06, 2015, 03:34:19 PM »
Disgusting is more accurate than amazing.

What is amazing, is that cops aren't rough ridin' learning.  This is accelerating, not slowing.  Cops don't get that yet?  Cities/Munis don't get that yet?  That is amazing.
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« Reply #337 on: August 06, 2015, 03:42:03 PM »
Quote from: CNS on August 06, 2015, 03:34:19 PM
Disgusting is more accurate than amazing.

What is amazing, is that cops aren't rough ridin' learning.  This is accelerating, not slowing.  Cops don't get that yet?  Cities/Munis don't get that yet?  That is amazing.

everyone needs a camera/phone.  it's your only protection.


they've had a long, long, long time of it's your word against mine.  it will take time, but eventually they will adjust.
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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #338 on: August 06, 2015, 03:48:06 PM »
Quote from: sys on August 06, 2015, 03:42:03 PM
Quote from: CNS on August 06, 2015, 03:34:19 PM
Disgusting is more accurate than amazing.

What is amazing, is that cops aren't rough ridin' learning.  This is accelerating, not slowing.  Cops don't get that yet?  Cities/Munis don't get that yet?  That is amazing.

everyone needs a camera/phone.  it's your only protection.


they've had a long, long, long time of it's your word against mine.  it will take time, but eventually they will adjust.

They will adjust to smashing your phone and turning off their body cams.  Or deleting the footage
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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #339 on: August 06, 2015, 03:53:12 PM »
What about the other cop? Did he have a body cam?
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« Reply #340 on: August 06, 2015, 04:19:17 PM »
Quote from: Dugout DickStone on August 06, 2015, 03:48:06 PM
Quote from: sys on August 06, 2015, 03:42:03 PM
Quote from: CNS on August 06, 2015, 03:34:19 PM
Disgusting is more accurate than amazing.

What is amazing, is that cops aren't rough ridin' learning.  This is accelerating, not slowing.  Cops don't get that yet?  Cities/Munis don't get that yet?  That is amazing.

everyone needs a camera/phone.  it's your only protection.


they've had a long, long, long time of it's your word against mine.  it will take time, but eventually they will adjust.

They will adjust to smashing your phone and turning off their body cams.  Or deleting the footage

they'll delete/not record their own footage.  you need to have your own footage.  hidden if there aren't any witnesses.
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« Reply #341 on: August 07, 2015, 11:59:41 AM »
I'm always fascinated that we don't have laws that make it a crime to alter or shutoff recording devices in official meetings or in official office capacities.
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« Reply #342 on: August 07, 2015, 12:24:02 PM »
Quote from: ednksu on August 07, 2015, 11:59:41 AM
I'm always fascinated that we don't have laws that make it a crime to alter or shutoff recording devices in official meetings or in official office capacities.

Well, the courts that just paid a public money settlement for a killing performed by a public employee in NYC have a judge telling the world to go eff yourself and he isn't releasing the grand jury transcript to the public.  I mean, public govt cover each others asses on the reg.   :dunno:
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« Reply #343 on: August 07, 2015, 04:40:41 PM »
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« Reply #344 on: August 07, 2015, 05:06:45 PM »
Quote from: sys on August 07, 2015, 04:40:41 PM
no video (yet?).  the hack is that the murdered guy was white.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/08/06/an-unarmed-white-teen-was-shot-dead-by-police-his-family-asks-where-is-the-outrage/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/lonnae-oneal-police-kill-a-white-teen-and-the-silence-raises-questions/2015/08/06/9aa8eed2-3c5a-11e5-8e98-115a3cf7d7ae_story.html?tid=pm_lifestyle_pop_b

well, the other differences were Bland died in police custody after a messy video of her arrest and in the Dubose shooting the cop would have been scott free and there would have been zero discussion without the video. But yeah there should definitely be more outrage here.
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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #345 on: August 07, 2015, 05:10:00 PM »
Quote from: sys on August 06, 2015, 04:19:17 PM
Quote from: Dugout DickStone on August 06, 2015, 03:48:06 PM
Quote from: sys on August 06, 2015, 03:42:03 PM
Quote from: CNS on August 06, 2015, 03:34:19 PM
Disgusting is more accurate than amazing.

What is amazing, is that cops aren't rough ridin' learning.  This is accelerating, not slowing.  Cops don't get that yet?  Cities/Munis don't get that yet?  That is amazing.

everyone needs a camera/phone.  it's your only protection.


they've had a long, long, long time of it's your word against mine.  it will take time, but eventually they will adjust.

They will adjust to smashing your phone and turning off their body cams.  Or deleting the footage

they'll delete/not record their own footage.  you need to have your own footage.  hidden if there aren't any witnesses.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/08/the-chutzpah-of-a-police-union-in-orange-county-california/400502/

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« Reply #346 on: August 07, 2015, 05:23:41 PM »
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« Reply #347 on: August 07, 2015, 05:27:29 PM »
Quote from: michigancat on August 07, 2015, 05:06:45 PM
Quote from: sys on August 07, 2015, 04:40:41 PM
no video (yet?).  the hack is that the murdered guy was white.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/08/06/an-unarmed-white-teen-was-shot-dead-by-police-his-family-asks-where-is-the-outrage/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/lonnae-oneal-police-kill-a-white-teen-and-the-silence-raises-questions/2015/08/06/9aa8eed2-3c5a-11e5-8e98-115a3cf7d7ae_story.html?tid=pm_lifestyle_pop_b

well, the other differences were Bland died in police custody after a messy video of her arrest and in the Dubose shooting the cop would have been scott free and there would have been zero discussion without the video. But yeah there should definitely be more outrage here.

another factor is yeah, blacks are more organized when it comes to fighting for justice because of all that first 200 years of how we treated blacks in the country. White males really haven't needed to mobilize for civil rights because they've, you know, always had them.
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« Reply #348 on: August 07, 2015, 05:31:40 PM »
the outrage or lack of outrage really isn't the important part, michigan.  it's just another story about another cop killing another human.
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« Reply #349 on: August 07, 2015, 05:36:36 PM »
Quote from: sys on August 07, 2015, 05:31:40 PM
the outrage or lack of outrage really isn't the important part, michigan.  it's just another story about another cop killing another human.

I will accept that.
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