not just missouri, best to avoid all cops

[ednksu]

Fair enough, I do even remember reading that. I was wrong to lump you in, although I disagree with you on the interrupting part being an escalation.

less interrupting and more patience are examples of something the cop could have done differently. Not necessarily "escalations". Although human interaction is complicated and tone, body language, etc. can be considered "escalations" when added all up. It's stupid to split semantic hairs here.

But as you note these are important techniques for cops to have to keep situations under control.  I mean this isn't applicable to random stops in the hood, but are also useful when dealing with people with mental health issues, particularly body language/tone.  How do you strike the balance between maintaining control over situations where the cop "dictates" the pace of the conversation and prevents the suspect from monopolizing the conversation wasting time with excuses/distractions/obstruction. <--tough convo to have

[ednksu]

ed is a cop with at least 5 scalps on his belt

mature post is mature

classic escalating warrior cop post

One of us was interested in a real discussion about how hard this situation is to sort through, the other is you.

have you even bothered to watch that one vice episode i was talking about yet?

re link it I don't see it going back a few pages

[puniraptor]

ed is a cop with at least 5 scalps on his belt

mature post is mature

classic escalating warrior cop post

One of us was interested in a real discussion about how hard this situation is to sort through, the other is you.

have you even bothered to watch that one vice episode i was talking about yet?

re link it I don't see it going back a few pages

i dont know how to link hbogo

[star seed 7]

It's fun how people with completely stupid positions are always the ones "just trying to have an honest conversation"

[ednksu]

It's fun how people with completely stupid positions are always the ones "just trying to have an honest conversation"

it's fun how some people act like little bitches on forums

[ednksu]

ed is a cop with at least 5 scalps on his belt

mature post is mature

classic escalating warrior cop post

One of us was interested in a real discussion about how hard this situation is to sort through, the other is you.

have you even bothered to watch that one vice episode i was talking about yet?

re link it I don't see it going back a few pages

i dont know how to link hbogo

http://www.hbo.com/vice/episodes/index.html
click the ep and copy the link, I'll watch it when I have time. 

Also can you quit with the bitch posts calling people out in other threads hoping they wont see?

[puniraptor]

ed is a cop with at least 5 scalps on his belt

mature post is mature

classic escalating warrior cop post

One of us was interested in a real discussion about how hard this situation is to sort through, the other is you.

have you even bothered to watch that one vice episode i was talking about yet?

re link it I don't see it going back a few pages

i dont know how to link hbogo

http://www.hbo.com/vice/episodes/index.html
click the ep and copy the link, I'll watch it when I have time. 

Also can you quit with the bitch posts calling people out in other threads hoping they wont see?

me, personally? i cant think of an example. why wouldnt i want you to see it? all things are interconnected here.

[puniraptor]

i reviewed my posting history, which i fully stand behind, and can find no examples of this alleged behaviour.

[michigancat]

Fair enough, I do even remember reading that. I was wrong to lump you in, although I disagree with you on the interrupting part being an escalation.

less interrupting and more patience are examples of something the cop could have done differently. Not necessarily "escalations". Although human interaction is complicated and tone, body language, etc. can be considered "escalations" when added all up. It's stupid to split semantic hairs here.

But as you note these are important techniques for cops to have to keep situations under control.  I mean this isn't applicable to random stops in the hood, but are also useful when dealing with people with mental health issues, particularly body language/tone.  How do you strike the balance between maintaining control over situations where the cop "dictates" the pace of the conversation and prevents the suspect from monopolizing the conversation wasting time with excuses/distractions/obstruction. <--tough convo to have

How about don't be a dick when there is no situation to keep under control? Don't try to forcibly remove someone from their car for suspicion of driving without a license? To start.

And "waste time"? Did the cop have a dinner date or something?

[puniraptor]

i reviewed my posting history, which i fully stand behind, and can find no examples of this alleged behaviour.

i've worked up a pretty good counter-zapp when youre ready for it tho.

[ednksu]

i reviewed my posting history, which i fully stand behind, and can find no examples of this alleged behaviour.

rough ridin' really? Even Fake has stopped with that crap.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=26046.msg1405292#msg1405292

[puniraptor]

i reviewed my posting history, which i fully stand behind, and can find no examples of this alleged behaviour.

rough ridin' really? Even Fake has stopped with that crap.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=26046.msg1405292#msg1405292

oh lol

we are all bros having fun and debating and escalating and letting each other have it and you are a fantastic poet

this is consistent with my established posting profile and i dont think i can agree to quit it with it

[star seed 7]

Just admit it was a bitch post and you thought you'd get away with it but you got caught and now you don't have a leg to stand on

[puniraptor]

i did it again, pretty funny go check it out

[michigancat]

i did it again, pretty funny go check it out

I went searching your post history and found a spot where I was called out in a thread I wasn't visiting!

[puniraptor]

i did it again, pretty funny go check it out

I went searching your post history and found a spot where I was called out in a thread I wasn't visiting!

i think you used the wrong emoticon to express how pissed you are at my bitch move

[0.42]

what is going on here

[ednksu]

what is going on here

A few posters were foolish with constructing their strawman and it fell apart on them.  Now they are running amok being uber cool.

[0.42]

ok cool have fun with that or whatever

[ednksu]

ok cool have fun with that or whatever

yeah its been a couple pages of stupidity, kinda sad since some brought up some legit points. oh well.

[Rage Against the McKee]

what is going on here

A few posters were foolish with constructing their strawman and it fell apart on them.  Now they are running amok being uber cool.

A straw man is when somebody makes up a position you don't have and then attacks that position. Everyone is just attacking the stuff you type, fwiw.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Fair enough, I do even remember reading that. I was wrong to lump you in, although I disagree with you on the interrupting part being an escalation.

less interrupting and more patience are examples of something the cop could have done differently. Not necessarily "escalations". Although human interaction is complicated and tone, body language, etc. can be considered "escalations" when added all up. It's stupid to split semantic hairs here.

But as you note these are important techniques for cops to have to keep situations under control.  I mean this isn't applicable to random stops in the hood, but are also useful when dealing with people with mental health issues, particularly body language/tone.  How do you strike the balance between maintaining control over situations where the cop "dictates" the pace of the conversation and prevents the suspect from monopolizing the conversation wasting time with excuses/distractions/obstruction. <--tough convo to have

How about don't be a dick when there is no situation to keep under control? Don't try to forcibly remove someone from their car for suspicion of driving without a license? To start.

And "waste time"? Did the cop have a dinner date or something?

Yeah. I mean, when the guy tells you he doesn't have his license, that's not being uncooperative. He just doesn't have his license. You don't have to go all Sheriff Teasle on the guy because he forgot to grab his license on the way out the door.

[steve dave]

http://boingboing.net/2015/08/05/sheriffs-deputy-resigns-afte.html

According to the Wooster Daily Record, Peterman was hired by Holmes County Sheriff's Department shortly after he quit. Holmes County Sheriff Timothy Zemerly says he does not "foresee any issues with him."

"What was Wayne County's loss is Holmes County's gain," Zimmerly told the Record, confirming that Peterman had been sworn in as a deputy.

[CNS]

If only she had a gun, she could dome him because she was being dragged.

[michigancat]

http://boingboing.net/2015/08/05/sheriffs-deputy-resigns-afte.html

According to the Wooster Daily Record, Peterman was hired by Holmes County Sheriff's Department shortly after he quit. Holmes County Sheriff Timothy Zemerly says he does not "foresee any issues with him."

"What was Wayne County's loss is Holmes County's gain," Zimmerly told the Record, confirming that Peterman had been sworn in as a deputy.

she was a mental health patient, which as Ed alluded to is the type of situation when cops need to let them know who's boss.