BMW's Josh Selby Master Thread

[MeatSauce]

Tell that to Josh Selby:


http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5106954


The deciding factor for Selby was also coaching. He said Self can get him pro-ready.

"They run an NBA-type offense with pick and roll and pick and pop," Selby said.

"When I get to the next level I don't want to be looking around [thinking] this [system] is different. I'll already know it."
 

Aaron Miles
Julian Wright
Brandon Rush
Russell Robinson
Wayne Simien
Chalmers is enjoying that bench spot
Darrell Arthur is really flourishing thx to the NBA skill she picked up from Self

Did I miss anyone?

[Stevesie60]

Gotta be a little bit fair to Bill Self on this one.  Selby sabotaged his own NBA dream right here:

At the N.B.A. Players Association Camp in Charlottesville, Va., Selby was approached by William Wesley, an influential power broker in college basketball circles, after a game. Wesley, who is known as Worldwide Wes and now represents coaches in the N.B.A. and college ranks as an agent, asked Selby, “Can you play?”

Selby said, “Didn’t you just watch the last game?”

Selby walked away, and Wesley, put off by the affront, was introduced to Selby’s mother after a later game and told her that her son needed to watch his mouth because he did not realize who he was talking to. He also advised her to hire a track coach to help improve Selby’s speed.

Sounds like he's Collins 2.0. Mouths off, needs to be faster, cocky. How many kids does Selby have?

[OregonSmock]

But the K-State athletic department is in "shambles" . . .  remember??

Let's see... last season was the first time ever that K-State made it to the NCAA baseball tournament.  The football program has been to one bowl in six years.  The basketball program's best season in school history was a three-way tie for 2nd in the Big 12, along with an Elite Eight loss to a mid major.  Yeah, you guys are just tearing sh*t up. 
 

[OregonSmock]

Gotta be a little bit fair to Bill Self on this one.  Selby sabotaged his own NBA dream right here:

At the N.B.A. Players Association Camp in Charlottesville, Va., Selby was approached by William Wesley, an influential power broker in college basketball circles, after a game. Wesley, who is known as Worldwide Wes and now represents coaches in the N.B.A. and college ranks as an agent, asked Selby, “Can you play?”

Selby said, “Didn’t you just watch the last game?”

Selby walked away, and Wesley, put off by the affront, was introduced to Selby’s mother after a later game and told her that her son needed to watch his mouth because he did not realize who he was talking to. He also advised her to hire a track coach to help improve Selby’s speed.

Sounds like he's Collins 2.0. Mouths off, needs to be faster, cocky. How many kids does Selby have?

Collins was the winningest player in KU history, won seven of eight possible Big 12 titles, went to two Elite Eights, a Sweet Sixteen, and won a national title.  Go f*ck yourself, hater.

[steve dave]

But the K-State athletic department is in "shambles" . . .  remember??

Let's see... last season was the first time ever that K-State made it to the NCAA baseball tournament.  The football program has been to one bowl in six years.  The basketball program's best season in school history was a three-way tie for 2nd in the Big 12, along with an Elite Eight loss to a mid major.  Yeah, you guys are just tearing sh*t up. 
 

We were better than KU in football, basketball and baseball this year

[OregonSmock]

But the K-State athletic department is in "shambles" . . .  remember??

Let's see... last season was the first time ever that K-State made it to the NCAA baseball tournament.  The football program has been to one bowl in six years.  The basketball program's best season in school history was a three-way tie for 2nd in the Big 12, along with an Elite Eight loss to a mid major.  Yeah, you guys are just tearing sh*t up. 
 

We were better than KU in football, basketball and baseball this year

How can you say K-State was better than KU in basketball when KU beat K-State three times and won the Big 12 by four games?  Football is debatable as well... KU just gave up on Mangino and that coaching staff after starting 5-0 and top 25.

[EllToPay]

And the Moderator of the Year Award goes to...

[steve dave]

But the K-State athletic department is in "shambles" . . .  remember??

Let's see... last season was the first time ever that K-State made it to the NCAA baseball tournament.  The football program has been to one bowl in six years.  The basketball program's best season in school history was a three-way tie for 2nd in the Big 12, along with an Elite Eight loss to a mid major.  Yeah, you guys are just tearing sh*t up. 
 

We were better than KU in football, basketball and baseball this year

How can you say K-State was better than KU in basketball when KU beat K-State three times and won the Big 12 by four games?  Football is debatable as well... KU just gave up on Mangino and that coaching staff after starting 5-0 and top 25.

KSU did better in basketball, baseball and football pretty simple

[sonofdaxjones]

Typical Ben mind trick.

Just a year ago K-State's athletic department was in a "Shambles" absolutely being left in the dust by ku's athletic program on every level according to Ben.   Rudderless, bankrupt, can't win anything.

A year later Mangino was canned and ku's football season was a complete disaster, firmly planting ku back as being the 2nd worst football program in the Big 12..  ku failed in the NCAA tourney.  All the other ku sports programs are mired in mediocrity.  The only coach Lew hired at ku until Gill has done nothing but bring up the bottom of the conference.   Lew's football coaching hire was the 3rd or 4th choice.   Lew admitted that expenses are out pacing revenues.   The huge facilities announcement was complete egg in the face for Lew Perkins.   The ku athletic department is under investigation by the FBI.  

The athletic department in shambles went to the NCAA tourney in baseball and will likely go again this year.   The basketball program had it's deepest NCAA tourney run in years, the football program was 1 game away from playing in the conference championship game, and men's track team is nationally ranked.  

Again, lets review.  K-State was in SHAMBLES one year ago according to you and Tardville.

[OregonSmock]

But the K-State athletic department is in "shambles" . . .  remember??

Let's see... last season was the first time ever that K-State made it to the NCAA baseball tournament.  The football program has been to one bowl in six years.  The basketball program's best season in school history was a three-way tie for 2nd in the Big 12, along with an Elite Eight loss to a mid major.  Yeah, you guys are just tearing sh*t up. 
 

We were better than KU in football, basketball and baseball this year

How can you say K-State was better than KU in basketball when KU beat K-State three times and won the Big 12 by four games?  Football is debatable as well... KU just gave up on Mangino and that coaching staff after starting 5-0 and top 25.

KSU did better in basketball, baseball and football pretty simple

No, you didn't.  STFU.

[steve dave]

But the K-State athletic department is in "shambles" . . .  remember??

Let's see... last season was the first time ever that K-State made it to the NCAA baseball tournament.  The football program has been to one bowl in six years.  The basketball program's best season in school history was a three-way tie for 2nd in the Big 12, along with an Elite Eight loss to a mid major.  Yeah, you guys are just tearing sh*t up.  
 

We were better than KU in football, basketball and baseball this year

How can you say K-State was better than KU in basketball when KU beat K-State three times and won the Big 12 by four games?  Football is debatable as well... KU just gave up on Mangino and that coaching staff after starting 5-0 and top 25.

KSU did better in basketball, baseball and football pretty simple

No, you didn't.  STFU.

Well, according to everyone in the world that's not you....we did

[Sugar Dick]

Typical Ben mind trick.

Just a year ago K-State's athletic department was in a "Shambles" absolutely being left in the dust by ku's athletic program on every level according to Ben.   Rudderless, bankrupt, can't win anything.

A year later Mangino was canned and ku's football season was a complete disaster, firmly planting ku back as being the 2nd worst football program in the Big 12..  ku failed in the NCAA tourney.  All the other ku sports programs are mired in mediocrity.  The only coach Lew hired at ku until Gill has done nothing but bring up the bottom of the conference.   Lew's football coaching hire was the 3rd or 4th choice.   Lew admitted that expenses are out pacing revenues.   The huge facilities announcement was complete egg in the face for Lew Perkins.   The ku athletic department is under investigation by the FBI.  

The athletic department in shambles went to the NCAA tourney in baseball and will likely go again this year.   The basketball program had it's deepest NCAA tourney run in years, the football program was 1 game away from playing in the conference championship game, and men's track team is nationally ranked.  

Again, lets review.  K-State was in SHAMBLES one year ago according to you and Tardville.

who got tricked?

[Stevesie60]

Gotta be a little bit fair to Bill Self on this one.  Selby sabotaged his own NBA dream right here:

At the N.B.A. Players Association Camp in Charlottesville, Va., Selby was approached by William Wesley, an influential power broker in college basketball circles, after a game. Wesley, who is known as Worldwide Wes and now represents coaches in the N.B.A. and college ranks as an agent, asked Selby, “Can you play?”

Selby said, “Didn’t you just watch the last game?”

Selby walked away, and Wesley, put off by the affront, was introduced to Selby’s mother after a later game and told her that her son needed to watch his mouth because he did not realize who he was talking to. He also advised her to hire a track coach to help improve Selby’s speed.

Sounds like he's Collins 2.0. Mouths off, needs to be faster, cocky. How many kids does Selby have?

Collins was the winningest player in KU history, won seven of eight possible Big 12 titles, went to two Elite Eights, a Sweet Sixteen, and won a national title.  Go f*ck yourself, hater.

Where did that second elite 8 come from? You forgot to mention his signature "Rock Choke" against UNI. Selby only has one year to do all of that for UK. Doesn't sound like he's buying into Seff's schemes of making guys stay longer than one year. But maybe Seff is better at Jedi Mind tricks than you are....

Not to mention I didn't attack Collins' ability on the court. Just his off court attitude, which did show up on court during games like, I don't know, UNI. Luckily it wasn't a game that really mattered or anything. So good job debating whether Selby is as cocky as Collins or not.

[OregonSmock]

Typical Ben mind trick.

Just a year ago K-State's athletic department was in a "Shambles" absolutely being left in the dust by ku's athletic program on every level according to Ben.   Rudderless, bankrupt, can't win anything.

A year later Mangino was canned and ku's football season was a complete disaster, firmly planting ku back as being the 2nd worst football program in the Big 12..  ku failed in the NCAA tourney.  All the other ku sports programs are mired in mediocrity.  The only coach Lew hired at ku until Gill has done nothing but bring up the bottom of the conference.   Lew's football coaching hire was the 3rd or 4th choice.   Lew admitted that expenses are out pacing revenues.   The huge facilities announcement was complete egg in the face for Lew Perkins.   The ku athletic department is under investigation by the FBI.  

The athletic department in shambles went to the NCAA tourney in baseball and will likely go again this year.   The basketball program had it's deepest NCAA tourney run in years, the football program was 1 game away from playing in the conference championship game, and men's track team is nationally ranked.  

Again, lets review.  K-State was in SHAMBLES one year ago according to you and Tardville.

Give it a rest, hater.  K-State still owes Ron Prince over $6 million, and your program still can't even scrounge up enough money to build a new basketball facility.  Pat yourselves on the back for finally making it to the NCAA baseball tournament for the first time in school history.  KU became the first school to go to a College World Series, Final Four, and bowl game in the same season back in 1993.  Just two years ago, KU became the 2nd program in history to win a national title and BCS Bowl in the same season.  Just this year, KU completed over $55 million in upgrades to its athletic facilities in and around AFH.  To top it off, KU just inked an $86 million deal with IMG.  

Let me know when K-State even comes close to doing any of those things.  Excuse me if I'm not impressed with an 11-5 2nd place tie in the Big 12, a three game sweep from KU, and an Elite Eight loss to Butler.  

[OregonSmock]

Gotta be a little bit fair to Bill Self on this one.  Selby sabotaged his own NBA dream right here:

At the N.B.A. Players Association Camp in Charlottesville, Va., Selby was approached by William Wesley, an influential power broker in college basketball circles, after a game. Wesley, who is known as Worldwide Wes and now represents coaches in the N.B.A. and college ranks as an agent, asked Selby, “Can you play?”

Selby said, “Didn’t you just watch the last game?”

Selby walked away, and Wesley, put off by the affront, was introduced to Selby’s mother after a later game and told her that her son needed to watch his mouth because he did not realize who he was talking to. He also advised her to hire a track coach to help improve Selby’s speed.

Sounds like he's Collins 2.0. Mouths off, needs to be faster, cocky. How many kids does Selby have?

Collins was the winningest player in KU history, won seven of eight possible Big 12 titles, went to two Elite Eights, a Sweet Sixteen, and won a national title.  Go f*ck yourself, hater.

Where did that second elite 8 come from? You forgot to mention his signature "Rock Choke" against UNI. Selby only has one year to do all of that for UK. Doesn't sound like he's buying into Seff's schemes of making guys stay longer than one year. But maybe Seff is better at Jedi Mind tricks than you are....

Not to mention I didn't attack Collins' ability on the court. Just his off court attitude, which did show up on court during games like, I don't know, UNI. Luckily it wasn't a game that really mattered or anything. So good job debating whether Selby is as cocky as Collins or not.

KU went to the Elite Eight in '07 and '08 (national championship).  Collins flat-out missed his shots against UNI... it had nothing to do with his effort or his attitude.  The guy is a winner, and would be the most accomplished player in K-State basketball history.  Also, Selby could be at KU for two years, especially if there's an NBA lockout in 2011 like many are expecting.

[The42Yardstick]

Fantastic pickup,               by the 'hawks

[sonofdaxjones]

More Jedi Mind Tricks from Ben.

Again, K-State was in shambles, unable to to anything, and ku was going to destroy K-State in everything.  Now.  Expenses out run Revenues at ku, the ku athletic department is nearly $60 million in debt, the majority of ku sports are mired at the bottom of the conference, and the football team nearly went 0-8 in conference play finishing in last place in the North . . . again.   The ku athletic department is under federal investigation and just came off of NCAA probation.
 

[Stevesie60]

Gotta be a little bit fair to Bill Self on this one.  Selby sabotaged his own NBA dream right here:

At the N.B.A. Players Association Camp in Charlottesville, Va., Selby was approached by William Wesley, an influential power broker in college basketball circles, after a game. Wesley, who is known as Worldwide Wes and now represents coaches in the N.B.A. and college ranks as an agent, asked Selby, “Can you play?”

Selby said, “Didn’t you just watch the last game?”

Selby walked away, and Wesley, put off by the affront, was introduced to Selby’s mother after a later game and told her that her son needed to watch his mouth because he did not realize who he was talking to. He also advised her to hire a track coach to help improve Selby’s speed.

Sounds like he's Collins 2.0. Mouths off, needs to be faster, cocky. How many kids does Selby have?

Collins was the winningest player in KU history, won seven of eight possible Big 12 titles, went to two Elite Eights, a Sweet Sixteen, and won a national title.  Go f*ck yourself, hater.

Where did that second elite 8 come from? You forgot to mention his signature "Rock Choke" against UNI. Selby only has one year to do all of that for UK. Doesn't sound like he's buying into Seff's schemes of making guys stay longer than one year. But maybe Seff is better at Jedi Mind tricks than you are....

Not to mention I didn't attack Collins' ability on the court. Just his off court attitude, which did show up on court during games like, I don't know, UNI. Luckily it wasn't a game that really mattered or anything. So good job debating whether Selby is as cocky as Collins or not.

KU went to the Elite Eight in '07 and '08 (national championship).  Collins flat-out missed his shots against UNI... it had nothing to do with his effort or his attitude.  The guy is a winner, and would be the most accomplished player in K-State basketball history.  Also, Selby could be at KU for two years, especially if there's an NBA lockout in 2011 like many are expecting.

That's funny. You mention going to the Elite Eight even though you won the NC that year? So you think the E8 is a pretty big accomplishment, but make fun of us for "only" getting there this year?

Most accomplished player in K-State history, huh? Like tying for the most points in a game in Big 12 play? Or being #1 in rebounds and #3 in scoring in the nation through one season of play?

But if there was an award for "Most Penises Rubbed On A Girl In An Elevator" award at K-State, he would have certainly won that. Kudos.

[OregonSmock]

More Jedi Mind Tricks from Ben.

Again, K-State was in shambles, unable to to anything, and ku was going to destroy K-State in everything.  Now.  Expenses out run Revenues at ku, the ku athletic department is nearly $60 million in debt, the majority of ku sports are mired at the bottom of the conference, and the football team nearly went 0-8 in conference play finishing in last place in the North . . . again.   The ku athletic department is under federal investigation and just came off of NCAA probation.
 

You guys had to hire a new athletic director, new school president, new head football coach, etc, etc.  Quit acting like your program was the epitome of stable at the time.  No one is impressed with one bowl in six years, one NCAA baseball tournament appearance in program history, and a three-way tie for 2nd place in the Big 12.  Sorry.

[sonofdaxjones]

Again, you and Tardville said it was a "shambles" and that it would be YEARS before K-State recovered.  We tried to tell you how these things are cyclical, but you just kept parrotting the tardville line.

I just looked at the Big 12 website, and I'd have to say that by and large the most underwhelming athletic program in the Big 12 during the 2009-2010 sports year would be ku.   

There really isn't one sport outside of men's basketball where ku isn't at or near the bottom of the conference.  Yet again and again you tried to tell us how Lew was building an athletic super power over in Lawrence.

[Dugout DickStone]

More Jedi Mind Tricks from Ben.

Again, K-State was in shambles, unable to to anything, and ku was going to destroy K-State in everything.  Now.  Expenses out run Revenues at ku, the ku athletic department is nearly $60 million in debt, the majority of ku sports are mired at the bottom of the conference, and the football team nearly went 0-8 in conference play finishing in last place in the North . . . again.   The ku athletic department is under federal investigation and just came off of NCAA probation.
 

You guys had to hire a new athletic director, new school president, new head football coach, etc, etc.  Quit acting like your program was the epitome of stable at the time.  No one is impressed with one bowl in six years, one NCAA baseball tournament appearance in program history, and a three-way tie for 2nd place in the Big 12.  Sorry.

You do realize that ku football has never even been to the conference title game, right?

I appreciate ku's success in baseball in 1993 (actually, no, I don't.  That was over 15 years ago) but in the past year, ku's athletic program is sucking KSU's dust.  Spin how you want but in the one, lone sport that ku was actually able to beat KSU head-to-head, the KSU program ultimately made it twice as far in the Tournament that is, for all objective fans, the true measure of success.

so, FACE

[OregonSmock]

Gotta be a little bit fair to Bill Self on this one.  Selby sabotaged his own NBA dream right here:

At the N.B.A. Players Association Camp in Charlottesville, Va., Selby was approached by William Wesley, an influential power broker in college basketball circles, after a game. Wesley, who is known as Worldwide Wes and now represents coaches in the N.B.A. and college ranks as an agent, asked Selby, “Can you play?”

Selby said, “Didn’t you just watch the last game?”

Selby walked away, and Wesley, put off by the affront, was introduced to Selby’s mother after a later game and told her that her son needed to watch his mouth because he did not realize who he was talking to. He also advised her to hire a track coach to help improve Selby’s speed.

Sounds like he's Collins 2.0. Mouths off, needs to be faster, cocky. How many kids does Selby have?

Collins was the winningest player in KU history, won seven of eight possible Big 12 titles, went to two Elite Eights, a Sweet Sixteen, and won a national title.  Go f*ck yourself, hater.

Where did that second elite 8 come from? You forgot to mention his signature "Rock Choke" against UNI. Selby only has one year to do all of that for UK. Doesn't sound like he's buying into Seff's schemes of making guys stay longer than one year. But maybe Seff is better at Jedi Mind tricks than you are....

Not to mention I didn't attack Collins' ability on the court. Just his off court attitude, which did show up on court during games like, I don't know, UNI. Luckily it wasn't a game that really mattered or anything. So good job debating whether Selby is as cocky as Collins or not.

KU went to the Elite Eight in '07 and '08 (national championship).  Collins flat-out missed his shots against UNI... it had nothing to do with his effort or his attitude.  The guy is a winner, and would be the most accomplished player in K-State basketball history.  Also, Selby could be at KU for two years, especially if there's an NBA lockout in 2011 like many are expecting.

That's funny. You mention going to the Elite Eight even though you won the NC that year? So you think the E8 is a pretty big accomplishment, but make fun of us for "only" getting there this year?

Most accomplished player in K-State history, huh? Like tying for the most points in a game in Big 12 play? Or being #1 in rebounds and #3 in scoring in the nation through one season of play?

But if there was an award for "Most Penises Rubbed On A Girl In An Elevator" award at K-State, he would have certainly won that. Kudos.

Sherron would give K-State its first ever national championship and seven out of eight Big 12 titles.  No one in the history of your program even comes close to having that much success.  Try again.

[OregonSmock]

Again, you and Tardville said it was a "shambles" and that it would be YEARS before K-State recovered.  We tried to tell you how these things are cyclical, but you just kept parrotting the tardville line.

I just looked at the Big 12 website, and I'd have to say that by and large the most underwhelming athletic program in the Big 12 during the 2009-2010 sports year would be ku.   

There really isn't one sport outside of men's basketball where ku isn't at or near the bottom of the conference.  Yet again and again you tried to tell us how Lew was building an athletic super power over in Lawrence.

How many other Big 12 programs have won a national championship and BCS Bowl in the same season?  TIA.

[Stevesie60]

Sherron would give K-State its first ever national championship and seven out of eight Big 12 titles.  No one in the history of your program even comes close to having that much success.  Try again.

I still don't understand how UK fans think that Collins is the reason for that. The whole team got you there, not Collins alone. What stat of his made UK win all of those games?

[OregonSmock]

Sherron would give K-State its first ever national championship and seven out of eight Big 12 titles.  No one in the history of your program even comes close to having that much success.  Try again.

I still don't understand how UK fans think that Collins is the reason for that. The whole team got you there, not Collins alone. What stat of his made UK win all of those games?

Collins is the winningest player in KU history.  He was a huge part of the championship run in '08 and all of the Big 12 titles.  Please try to argue otherwise.