Hopefully An Issue We Can Get Some Bi-Partisan Agreement On

[Headinjun]

an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure 

Definitely. I'm sure it'll just be an "ounce" of regulation. Or however much 300 pages weighs. Not as much as Obamacare, that's for sure!

I really can't believe anyone who likes fast internet wants COMCAST to start rough ridin' with it.

So let me get this straight - Comcast and Verizon throttled the speed of the largest consumer of bandwidth on the planet - Netflix - so now we need the government to step in and regulate the internet like a public utility? Are you really so libtarded that you actually believe government intervention, as opposed to the free market, is going to make this better?

Free market will not correct an industry with local monopolies and a recent history of mergers.

I know that we are better off because of publicly regulated energy, water, and sewer.

With the Internet being a medium for banking, job searches, government payments, learning etc it has become a standard for the business of conducting life.  All of us should have reasonable broadband and no single person, business, or entity should be priced out because of a private monopoly.

Internet providers use public right of ways and because of that the public should have a say.

[Kat Kid]

Yes, the public should have a say, but the basis for net neutrality as of now are ancient telecom rules.

Large companies have entire regulatory staffs to help them figure those rules out and to position themselves in kinds of ways to profit, not perform/avoid performance etc. etc. 

Net neutrality also positions a few companies and their huge regulatory staff to run to the FCC everytime they think some little guy isn't meeting the "just and reasonable" criteria.

This is a huge regulatory overreach that goes way beyond whether Farmer Ned in the middle of nowhere can get on the Internet.

That is certainly less of an issue than the threat of control of the internet by ISPs through the use of throttling, which was a possible outcome of doing nothing.

[star seed 7]

If you regulate Internet, only regulators will have Internet!

[Spracne]

I'm used to there being arguments on both sides of an issue that have some merit and are persuasive.  That's why this discussion is so odd to me.

[Tobias]

I'm used to there being arguments on both sides of an issue that have some merit and are persuasive.  That's why this discussion is so odd to me.

it's absolutely amazing.  republicans did a very good job doing whatever it is they're doing on this one

[Rage Against the McKee]

I'm used to there being arguments on both sides of an issue that have some merit and are persuasive.  That's why this discussion is so odd to me.

it's absolutely amazing.  republicans did a very good job doing whatever it is they're doing on this one

They just started calling it Obamanet, really.

[Dugout DickStone]

I'm used to there being arguments on both sides of an issue that have some merit and are persuasive.  That's why this discussion is so odd to me.

it's absolutely amazing.  republicans did a very good job doing whatever it is they're doing on this one

Calling others dummies and telling them that this policy is actually pro big business

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Is there a problem with the internet right now that needs a bill pushed through without debate? I think we've seen this before with really shitty consequences.

[Headinjun]

Hey, just think, U.S. net-neutrality could drop the United States out of the Top 50 in World Press Freedom (currently 49th and falling).

What a glorious day for the "Most Transparent Administration in History".

Quit being a douchebag.

[8manpick]

I think we should have a law against throttling traffic to any website or prioritizing one at the expense of others. Is that what is happening, or no?

[Headinjun]

Hey, just think, U.S. net-neutrality could drop the United States out of the Top 50 in World Press Freedom (currently 49th and falling).

What a glorious day for the "Most Transparent Administration in History".

Quit being a douchebag.

No.

Quit avoiding reality

Reality tells me that the regulation of TV and radio has never threatened freedom of the press but only made it stronger. 

I don't expect anything new or different with the Internet that drastically changes this. 

[Spracne]

In 60 words or less, tell me why I should be against "net neutrality"?

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

When the internet is controlled and regulated by the government, it will become corrupt without any market forces to keep them in line. There will be many innovations that will no longer be viable without the free market.

[Spracne]

Are there any examples of things that are both not corrupt and controlled and regulated by the government?

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Are there any examples of things that are both not corrupt and controlled and regulated by the government?

the internet.

[Spracne]

Are there any examples of things that are both not corrupt and controlled and regulated by the government?

the internet.

I meant to say are there any examples of things that are both:

1.) Not corrupt, and

2.) controlled/regulated by the government

[wetwillie]

Your costs will go up and the coverage will be shittier.  Did I do that right?

[Tobias]

Your costs will go up and the coverage will be shittier.  Did I do that right?

[Spracne]

I just want whatever is in the best interests of the consumers.  Maybe that's whatever the broadband providers are fighting tooth and nail for.  I can't be sure.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

You can have "net neutrality" without taxing internet use and regulating it like a utility.  Just like you could have made health insurance available to people with preexisting conditions without rough ridin' up the entire health insurance industry.

[Headinjun]

I derstand Judith Miller did some time and that Obama is being a dick about Snowden, but I have yet to see the United States government shutdown a media outlet or arrest somebody because they didn't agree with what they said on the Internet.

Now tell me how specifically does net neutrality affect freedom of the press ?

[star seed 7]

until i see dax's scientific credentials, his alarmist warmism has no standing

[star seed 7]

i wonder if the press has any agenda in telling people they are unfree

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

It's Ok guys - I'm hearing all these regulations are intended to do is "guarantee equal access to the internet."

Kind of like how Obamacare guaranteed equal access to healthcare, and look what a bang up job the libtards did on that!

[Dugout DickStone]

i wonder if the press has any agenda in telling people they are unfree

Yeah . . . that's it.

Anway.

Working in the industry I see nothing but a litany of lawsuits and know that big players will still get their content prioritized in the network.   It's relatively easy to do and while it's easy to show how it's being done, good luck fighting it.  Also, putting today's Internet to the litmus test of 1930's telecom legislation is ridiculous, and as I've said.   Net neutrality quite possibly will allow the big guys to tie up little guys in a morass of regulatory complaints.   That's what some of you just don't get.   Telecom regulations have literally wiped out entire forests with paper and printing and small print.

welp