post here when someone decides to run for president in 2016

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Looks like mexico is using the wrong measles vaccine. 8 times the cases with 1/3 the people, yet they vaccinate at much higher rate. hmmmmm, why would mexico lie to the world bank????

Better question, why would somebody be so stupid as to believe that NBC report?

The data all came from the world health organization. (both the number of suspected cases and vaccination rates)

Aren't these the same international organizations pushing the debunked story that the U.S. has a higher infant mortality than other devloped nations? I think they even said we had a higher rate than Cuba. It all comes down to how reliably infant mortality is reported, and what a country defines as a "live birth." I would similarly treat such reports on vaccinations in developing nations with a lot of skepticism.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/276952/infant-mortality-deceptive-statistic-scott-w-atlas

[michigancat]

Looks like mexico is using the wrong measles vaccine. 8 times the cases with 1/3 the people, yet they vaccinate at much higher rate. hmmmmm, why would mexico lie to the world bank????

Better question, why would somebody be so stupid as to believe that NBC report?

The data all came from the world health organization. (both the number of suspected cases and vaccination rates)

Aren't these the same international organizations pushing the debunked story that the U.S. has a higher infant mortality than other devloped nations? I think they even said we had a higher rate than Cuba. It all comes down to how reliably infant mortality is reported, and what a country defines as a "live birth." I would similarly treat such reports on vaccinations in developing nations with a lot of skepticism.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/276952/infant-mortality-deceptive-statistic-scott-w-atlas

Ok

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Went back into the NBC propaganda piece michigancat (aka I'll believe anything I'm supposed to believe to push my bullshit pov cat), and clicked on the link cited in support.

2013 Measles vaccination rates (per wto unicef):
Mexico - 89%
Guatemala - 85%

So even if you are dumb enough to believe mexico self reports honestly or could even do so accurately,  it's still a bullshit stat that only a fool would afford any credence.

[michigancat]

Went back into the NBC propaganda piece michigancat (aka I'll believe anything I'm supposed to believe to push my bullshit pov cat), and clicked on the link cited in support.

2013 Measles vaccination rates (per wto unicef):
Mexico - 89%
Guatemala - 85%

So even if you are dumb enough to believe mexico self reports honestly or could even do so accurately,  it's still a bullshit stat that only a fool would afford any credence.

Went back into the NBC propaganda piece michigancat (aka I'll believe anything I'm supposed to believe to push my bullshit pov cat), and clicked on the link cited in support.

2013 Measles vaccination rates (per wto unicef):
Mexico - 89%
Guatemala - 85%

So even if you are dumb enough to believe mexico self reports honestly or could even do so accurately,  it's still a bullshit stat that only a fool would afford any credence.

what data should we cite when discussing where the primary cause of the measles outbreak?

(also, it's fairly obvious that the article is several months old and cited the 2012 data)

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what data should we cite when discussing where the primary cause of the measles outbreak?

(also, it's fairly obvious that the article is several months old and cited the 2012 data)

LOL. Why are still defending that story? Do you really think the vaccination rate in Mexico just dropped 14% in one year?

C'mon man

[MakeItRain]

I think most people were laughing at Paul for saying vaccines cause mental disorders - that's why I shared the story I shared. don't watch CNN though, so I could be wrong.

Here is just an example of the liberal slant. The issue of whether parents should be forced to immunize their kids is at least debateable, but The Hill's headline is... Rand Paul: Parents 'own' children, not the state

For conservative candidates, every interview is a potential minefield. The vast majority of the journalists are of the liberal persuasion. Worse, many of them have a not so thinly-veiled partisan bent, ready to pounce on any word they can take out of context.

well, a quick google news search is all about the vaccination quote and really nothing about the "ownership". And Paul doubled down on his vaccinations quote. And we're in the middle of a measles outbreak. No one cares about the ownership quote because it's fairly obvious he misspoke, or at least everyone knew what he meant.

Is the screen shot supposed to highlight media bias? eff, it even has Koch bros stuff sprinkled in

I agree. Those bastards at NewsMax are real fuckers to conservatives, always have been libtard mediots

[star seed 7]

well, looks like that scott walker guy decided he doesn't want to run for president ever

http://www.nationaljournal.com/twenty-sixteen/scott-walker-just-got-asked-if-he-believes-in-evolution-he-punted-20150211

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

well, looks like that scott walker guy decided he doesn't want to run for president ever

http://www.nationaljournal.com/twenty-sixteen/scott-walker-just-got-asked-if-he-believes-in-evolution-he-punted-20150211

Libtards have the most idiotic litmus tests. For conservatives it's "do you support abortion" a matter of life and death. For libtards it's "so evolution - yes or no?" and "what's your stance on birth control?"

Seems like Walker's answer was perfectly appropriate. Why does it matter?

[Institutional Control]

Because if you don't believe basic science like evolution, you're too dumb to run a country.

[steve dave]

whether someone believes in a thing considered fact by pretty much every intelligent person on the planet with no scientific evidence to the contrary isn't something I want my president punting on. but, I'm going to assume he did that to coddle his low/medium base and isn't actually a dumbass.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Partying with domestic terrorist Bill Ayers - no biggie, ayers had a lot of good ideas

Soundbite indicating politician believes in god and evolution - to dumb to be president

Not surprised to see the usual libtards jumping in on this one

[Rage Against the McKee]

I don't think anyone cares whether he believes in God or not.

[steve dave]

I don't think anyone cares whether he believes in God or not.

that's an acceptable spot to drop the "why does it matter" imo

[Dugout DickStone]

I don't think anyone cares whether he believes in God or not.

Some people do, see Facebook post thread

[michigancat]

If the government didn't invest massive amounts of money on scientific research, then I would probably agree that being able to speak intelligently on an elementary school science topic is irrelevant.

[star seed 7]

These flailing neocon responses 

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These flailing neocon responses 

Neocons are democrats who believe in god, not guys who get elected governor 8 times in 3 years in the state with the most butthurt leftists per capita.

[star seed 7]

 

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Seriously, how many times has that guy had to be elected governor?

[star seed 7]

Quite a few times

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Because if you don't believe basic science like evolution, you're too dumb to run a country.

You don't really think Scott Walker is stupid. He's smart enough to understand that doesn't need to opine on topics that are completely irrelevant to the presidency that will only needlessly piss off one group or another.

[Dugout DickStone]

At some point he will have to say if he believes in dinosaurs

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

At some point he will have to say if he believes in dinosaurs

That's ok. The "no dinosaur" crowd is pretty small and usually doesn't vote.

[Dugout DickStone]

At some point he will have to say if he believes in dinosaurs

That's ok. The "no dinosaur" crowd is pretty small and usually doesn't vote.

Good

[Rage Against the McKee]

There's a surprisingly large crowd that believes man walked with the dinosaurs about 6000 years ago, though.