Let's hear more about all the walk ons

[OK_Cat]

Athletes vs Kansas kids

[AppleJack]

we need to reduce our enrollment standards.

[OK_Cat]

Sick of the media and powertards talking about the walk ons like its a good thing

[Muldoon]

Until we change the narrative that we're walk on U and five heart talent this kind of crap will continue to propagate at purple qhatz U.

[Skipper44]

I am tired of this coaching staff failing to prepare the big 12 athletes we do recruit to actually play

[OK_Cat]

20 rushing yards? No worries, d Scott will write a jerkoff piece about heart and the powertards will eat it up

[Dugout DickStone]

It gets so bad against good teams

[BackPayne]

We have way too many white kids that play.

[OK_Cat]

This is our ceiling. Occasionally be in the national conversation, but never be a real contender.

[Pett]

Okay...they're slow

[bws]

This is our ceiling. Occasionally be in the national conversation, but never be a real contender.

This stat backs you up unfortunately

@ESPNStatsInfo: Kansas State: 0-10 all-time in games where both teams are ranked in the Top 10, and seven of the losses have come by double digits

[Bloodfart]

This should be the only thread on this board.  Required reading IMO.

[ednksu]

It's rough ridin' Patterson....

[Lucas Scoopsalot]

So, should I like just stop watching games then until we change our formula? Like, if this is our ceiling and there is nothing else to look forward to should I stop going to cat games? I wish this wasn't our ceiling, but it is and it sucks.

[monumentcat]

So, should I like just stop watching games then until we change our formula? Like, if this is our ceiling and there is nothing else to look forward to should I stop going to cat games? I wish this wasn't our ceiling, but it is and it sucks.

No not our ceiling. We used to have athletes and play them.  Biggest difference between Snyder 1.0 and 2.0 and I don't understand it.  It's going to kill Juco recruiting too.

[Lucas Scoopsalot]

So, should I like just stop watching games then until we change our formula? Like, if this is our ceiling and there is nothing else to look forward to should I stop going to cat games? I wish this wasn't our ceiling, but it is and it sucks.

No not our ceiling. We used to have athletes and play them.  Biggest difference between Snyder 1.0 and 2.0 and I don't understand it.  It's going to kill Juco recruiting too.

We never really got past this current ceiling with the 98-03 teams either FWIW

[kso_FAN]

So, should I like just stop watching games then until we change our formula? Like, if this is our ceiling and there is nothing else to look forward to should I stop going to cat games? I wish this wasn't our ceiling, but it is and it sucks.

No not our ceiling. We used to have athletes and play them.  Biggest difference between Snyder 1.0 and 2.0 and I don't understand it.  It's going to kill Juco recruiting too.

I agree we had more athletes/depth, but most JUCOs (which we recruited more of) still took time to work into the system. Bishop was an obvious exception.

[bucket]

  

[420seriouscat69]

'Grats, OK cat. You pathetic, dumbass.

[monumentcat]

So, should I like just stop watching games then until we change our formula? Like, if this is our ceiling and there is nothing else to look forward to should I stop going to cat games? I wish this wasn't our ceiling, but it is and it sucks.

No not our ceiling. We used to have athletes and play them.  Biggest difference between Snyder 1.0 and 2.0 and I don't understand it.  It's going to kill Juco recruiting too.

I agree we had more athletes/depth, but most JUCOs (which we recruited more of) still took time to work into the system. Bishop was an obvious exception.

We seemed to do a better job of working them in during Snyder 1.0. Especially on defense. I'm tired of seeing Truman and Will Davis when Derricott and Riddle are on the bench with no hope of playing.

[bucket]

So, should I like just stop watching games then until we change our formula? Like, if this is our ceiling and there is nothing else to look forward to should I stop going to cat games? I wish this wasn't our ceiling, but it is and it sucks.

No not our ceiling. We used to have athletes and play them.  Biggest difference between Snyder 1.0 and 2.0 and I don't understand it.  It's going to kill Juco recruiting too.

I agree we had more athletes/depth, but most JUCOs (which we recruited more of) still took time to work into the system. Bishop was an obvious exception.

We seemed to do a better job of working them in during Snyder 1.0. Especially on defense. I'm tired of seeing Truman and Will Davis when Derricott and Riddle are on the bench with no hope of playing.

Don't mind Truman. I was a little puzzled why Davis was in there more than Dakorey. Riddle is definitely redshirted, and I haven't seen Derricott play a down so I think it's safe to say he's redshirted too.

[TCUHornedFrog]

It's rough ridin' Patterson....

GMFP

[sonofdaxjones]

It's amazing how many Wabash Tucks we really have on this board.

How can a staff with their so called reputation be back for round II for five years and recruit that crapfest at running back? 

The same thing at LB.   

The OL never, I mean never gets to the second level and against teams like TCU they repeatedly get blown up in the run game.

[sonofdaxjones]

Oh and once again Dimel/Miller are completely exposed against a well prepped, athletic defense.   The offensive gameplane was a joke and many won't remember that it happened a lot in similar circumstances when Dimel was the OC during Snyder I.   

[Pett]

How can a staff with their so called reputation be back for round II for five years and recruit that crapfest at running back? 

The same thing at LB.   

It's a crime to start Davis over a partially injured Dakorey