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Re: Nebraska's struggle for relevance.
« Reply #2550 on: November 19, 2023, 02:25:35 PM »
if they score 14 points they probably beat Iowa  :ohno:

The failson won't go out with a whimper.

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Re: Nebraska's struggle for relevance.
« Reply #2551 on: November 19, 2023, 04:41:25 PM »
OMFG the O/U is 27.5

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Re: Nebraska's struggle for relevance.
« Reply #2554 on: November 20, 2023, 08:21:50 AM »
don't they play for some made up rivalry trophy?  iowa probably rolls 17-3

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« Reply #2555 on: November 20, 2023, 09:20:31 AM »
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Re: Nebraska's struggle for relevance.
« Reply #2556 on: November 20, 2023, 10:35:27 AM »
Last Saturday's game vs Wisconsin was for the Freedom Trophy  :dunno:

Do we need more trophy games?

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« Reply #2557 on: November 20, 2023, 10:36:51 AM »
Everyone gets a trophy these days. Except Nebraska, because they still manage to lose all of their trophy games.

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« Reply #2558 on: November 20, 2023, 11:27:23 AM »

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« Reply #2559 on: November 20, 2023, 11:35:10 AM »
how is this a real schedule for a p5 school

#1   L 7-45
#50  L 10-13
#56  L 17-24
#61  W 20-7
#72  W 17-9
#74  L 10-13
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Re: Nebraska's struggle for relevance.
« Reply #2560 on: November 20, 2023, 11:50:43 AM »
The big 10 is dreadful

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« Reply #2561 on: November 20, 2023, 02:45:31 PM »
OMFG the O/U is 27.5

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the o/u has dropped to 26.5, and nebraska is now favored by 1 


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« Reply #2562 on: November 20, 2023, 04:47:20 PM »
It's easy to see why KU longs to be in the BIG. A four-loss Big 12 team would probably coast to the west crown.
 
Poor Nebraska. Now their fans have to look longingly across borders to successful programs K-State, KU, Iowa and Missouri. What's the percentage of the Nebraska population that lives within 100 miles of those three states. FYI, I used to live in Sabetha in the late 90s, eight miles from the Nub line. There were a whole lot of Big Red flags on porches and in yards. Wonder how many are on display now? I don't know how much those memories of the elite past can sustain them.

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« Reply #2563 on: November 20, 2023, 04:49:12 PM »
Also, the divisions go away next year. They are probably going to have to start playing 2 or 3 teams that finish above .500 most years. They are so mumped.

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« Reply #2564 on: November 20, 2023, 06:21:43 PM »
Also, the divisions go away next year. They are probably going to have to start playing 2 or 3 teams that finish above .500 most years. They are so mumped.
I haven't analyzed the big 10's future schedules, but I assume it's a lot like ours. 

I see Iowa is their protected matchup... but they will have to deal with each of UM, OSU, PSU, USC, and Oregon roughly two out of four or five years?  (Not to mention MSU, Wisconsin, Washington, and UCLA?)  Good luck with all that.

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« Reply #2565 on: November 20, 2023, 08:10:09 PM »
They probably will have some years that are tough and some that are laughers.

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« Reply #2566 on: November 21, 2023, 07:42:04 AM »
Next five conference slates:

2024
Home: Illinois, Rutgers, UCLA, Wisconsin
Away: Indiana, Iowa, Ohio State, Purdue, USC

2025
Home: Iowa, Michigan, Michigan State, Northwestern, USC
Away: Maryland, Minnesota, Penn State, UCLA

2026
Home: Indiana, Maryland, Ohio State, Washington
Away: Illinois, Iowa, Michigan State, Oregon, Rutgers

2027
Home: Iowa, Minnesota, Oregon, Purdue, Rutgers
Away: Northwestern, Ohio State, Washington, Wisconsin

2028
Home: Northwestern, Penn State, UCLA, Wisconsin
Away: Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, Purdue, USC


Seems like a fairly balanced mix, with three or four premier teams a year, but all of these look more challenging than what they've been struggling against.


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Re: Nebraska's struggle for relevance.
« Reply #2567 on: November 21, 2023, 07:51:25 AM »
It's easy to see why KU longs to be in the BIG. A four-loss Big 12 team would probably coast to the west crown.
 
Poor Nebraska. Now their fans have to look longingly across borders to successful programs K-State, KU, Iowa and Missouri. What's the percentage of the Nebraska population that lives within 100 miles of those three states. FYI, I used to live in Sabetha in the late 90s, eight miles from the Nub line. There were a whole lot of Big Red flags on porches and in yards. Wonder how many are on display now? I don't know how much those memories of the elite past can sustain them.
Very few if there are any at all.

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Re: Nebraska's struggle for relevance.
« Reply #2568 on: November 21, 2023, 09:21:07 AM »
Kids in second grade haven't seen Nebraska have a winning season in their lifetime.

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« Reply #2569 on: November 21, 2023, 03:13:12 PM »
Next five conference slates:

2024
Home: Illinois, Rutgers, UCLA, Wisconsin
Away: Indiana, Iowa, Ohio State, Purdue, USC

2025
Home: Iowa, Michigan, Michigan State, Northwestern, USC
Away: Maryland, Minnesota, Penn State, UCLA

2026
Home: Indiana, Maryland, Ohio State, Washington
Away: Illinois, Iowa, Michigan State, Oregon, Rutgers

2027
Home: Iowa, Minnesota, Oregon, Purdue, Rutgers
Away: Northwestern, Ohio State, Washington, Wisconsin

2028
Home: Northwestern, Penn State, UCLA, Wisconsin
Away: Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, Purdue, USC


Seems like a fairly balanced mix, with three or four premier teams a year, but all of these look more challenging than what they've been struggling against.


kono

What's wild about this is that a lot of these games are now like 50/50 propositions and not the ones they want you to think; Illinois, Purdue, Minnesota, Rutgers. They are nothing but your average Big 10 West also-ran.

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« Reply #2570 on: November 22, 2023, 05:15:16 PM »
Don't sleep on Northwestern, either. The battle of the helmet Ns has been a hell of a rivalry over the past several years.

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Re: Nebraska's struggle for relevance.
« Reply #2571 on: November 23, 2023, 01:45:13 PM »
OMFG the O/U is 27.5

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the o/u has dropped to 26.5, and nebraska is now favored by 1 


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try 24.5

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« Reply #2572 on: November 23, 2023, 02:19:42 PM »
Sitting back and really putting it into perspective, how the hell does a program fall so low from a peak so high?

Can’t be only poor coaching hires alone

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« Reply #2573 on: November 23, 2023, 04:23:22 PM »
Sitting back and really putting it into perspective, how the hell does a program fall so low from a peak so high?

Can’t be only poor coaching hires alone

I've thought about it a lot. Coaching is absolutely a factor, and imo the catalyst for the fall. But I also think:

1. The rise of other programs (ie K-State in the late 90s) started to eat into their recruiting edge, and their walk on program also deteriorated, this left then in a smaller and smaller pool of talent which created a feedback loop of smaller success, which made it harder for them to attract kids, and with that:

2. Joining the big 10 ultimately destroyed their last ability to tap into Texas, Oklahoma, KS, Missouri, and other such recruiting ground they got their out of state guys from. No one is going to play in Nebraska if they can stay more at home/actually play in their own backyard.

Both of those things coincided perfectly with decaying inertia firing Solich, who was actually good but not good enough for them after Osborne, then hiring Callahan, who sucked, and then sending them out of the Big 12 with Pelini, who was the last competent coach they've truly had, to then hiring Mike Riley who was meh at Oregon State. Just as ku's hiring of Weis to me is the true demise of ku until they got LL (firing Mangino was the start, but I don't think Gill was/is a bad coach) hiring Mike Riley to replace Pelini was the straw that broke the camels back for them. They are now in what was ku's former hell of hiring and firing coaches until someone comes along and actually builds them back up.

All these things come back to Nebraska's own damn fault. They did all of that to themselves for the most part, the hubris of thinking Solich wasn't good enough, being pissed off K-State (and others) had caught up on the football field. Texas had overshadowed them off it and that pissed them off, so they were looking elsewhere for their fame and fortune, and with all that then any semblance of what actually got them there in the first place by leaving the Big 12. All this was cause their own ego got in the way.
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Re: Nebraska's struggle for relevance.
« Reply #2574 on: November 23, 2023, 04:28:42 PM »
It mostly just became harder to cheat


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