Author Topic: 2001 #9 K-State vs. #3 OU (Read 9326 times)

MakeItRain · « **on:** October 13, 2014, 03:27:13 PM »

This game is on ESPN Classic right now and holy crap, I forgot just how good Ell was. I have no idea why/how this 2001 team turned out so garbagey, there's do much talent on the field.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #1 on:** October 13, 2014, 03:30:37 PM »

Also lol at the concussion protocol in 2001, Nate Hybl was knocked stupid at least twice in this game.

cas4ksu · « **Reply #2 on:** October 13, 2014, 03:34:14 PM »

Quote from: MakeItRain on October 13, 2014, 03:30:37 PM

Also lol at the concussion protocol in 2001, Nate Hybl was knocked stupid at least twice in this game.

No kidding. Phil Bennett's patented all-out blitz left Hybl sketti-brained.

EllRobersonisInnocent · « **Reply #3 on:** October 13, 2014, 03:34:50 PM »

I miss Ell

Winters · « **Reply #4 on:** October 13, 2014, 03:41:39 PM »

Quote from: EllRobersonisInnocent on October 13, 2014, 03:34:50 PM

I miss Ell

Yeah

Bookcat · « **Reply #5 on:** October 13, 2014, 03:56:05 PM »

Quote from: MakeItRain on October 13, 2014, 03:27:13 PM

This game is on ESPN Classic right now and holy crap, I forgot just how good Ell was. I have no idea why/how this 2001 team turned out so garbagey, there's do much talent on the field.

2001 offense had some major issues staying on the field...hung an inexperience defense out to dry. I think someone had fumblitis too if I recall.

I do remember the Cats blew a 17 point lead at home to Texas A&M and lost. They just had a knack for screwing up.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #6 on:** October 13, 2014, 03:58:30 PM »

17 penalties for 139 yards

Also this game had the old timing rules when the referee decided when to start the play clock. Hybl got sacked forcing a 4th and long with 59 seconds left, it took the referee 22 seconds to start the play clock.

Bookcat · « **Reply #7 on:** October 13, 2014, 04:02:04 PM »

Quote from: MakeItRain on October 13, 2014, 03:58:30 PM

17 penalties for 139 yards

Also this game had the old timing rules when the referee decided when to start the play clock. Hybl got sacked forcing a 4th and long with 59 seconds left, it took the referee 22 seconds to start the play clock.

Wow. Its all coming back to me. We got major screwed on that down. ...lost by 1. Refs had it in for us that year.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #8 on:** October 13, 2014, 04:05:03 PM »

Quote from: Bookcat on October 13, 2014, 04:02:04 PM

Quote from: MakeItRain on October 13, 2014, 03:58:30 PM
17 penalties for 139 yards

Also this game had the old timing rules when the referee decided when to start the play clock. Hybl got sacked forcing a 4th and long with 59 seconds left, it took the referee 22 seconds to start the play clock.

Wow. Its all coming back to me. We got major screwed on that down. ...lost by 1. Refs had it in for us that year.

IIRC the same thing with the play clock happened later that season as well, Colorado maybe?

Bookcat · « **Reply #9 on:** October 13, 2014, 04:11:59 PM »

Quote from: MakeItRain on October 13, 2014, 04:05:03 PM

Quote from: Bookcat on October 13, 2014, 04:02:04 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on October 13, 2014, 03:58:30 PM
17 penalties for 139 yards

Also this game had the old timing rules when the referee decided when to start the play clock. Hybl got sacked forcing a 4th and long with 59 seconds left, it took the referee 22 seconds to start the play clock.

Wow. Its all coming back to me. We got major screwed on that down. ...lost by 1. Refs had it in for us that year.

IIRC the same thing with the play clock happened later that season as well, Colorado maybe?

Well, the Buff game was interesting because as soon as we got any offense going...they flagged a Wildcat for taunting simply for signaling a first down. Killed the drive, we punted and they scored on the next drive. No answer for Chris Brown. That guy won them a Big XII Title. '01 sucked..weird year in the Big XII...

ChiComCat · « **Reply #10 on:** October 13, 2014, 04:17:31 PM »

Quote from: MakeItRain on October 13, 2014, 03:27:13 PM

This game is on ESPN Classic right now and holy crap, I forgot just how good Ell was. I have no idea why/how this 2001 team turned out so garbagey, there's do much talent on the field.

Ell had ridiculous talent and would make mistakes that you would expect from a young player in about any sport that knows he has the talent. You could see the greatness and also the stupid mistakes. I think Sams had some of that ability which is why I was so sad to see him go. Rodriguez in basketball too.

Trevor Knight is the same way. I thought OU was overrated this year because although he is very talented, he just hasn't put it all together yet.

Fedor · « **Reply #11 on:** October 13, 2014, 04:19:40 PM »

Quote from: Bookcat on October 13, 2014, 04:11:59 PM

Quote from: MakeItRain on October 13, 2014, 04:05:03 PM
Quote from: Bookcat on October 13, 2014, 04:02:04 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on October 13, 2014, 03:58:30 PM
17 penalties for 139 yards

Also this game had the old timing rules when the referee decided when to start the play clock. Hybl got sacked forcing a 4th and long with 59 seconds left, it took the referee 22 seconds to start the play clock.

Wow. Its all coming back to me. We got major screwed on that down. ...lost by 1. Refs had it in for us that year.

IIRC the same thing with the play clock happened later that season as well, Colorado maybe?

Well, the Buff game was interesting because as soon as we got any offense going...they flagged a Wildcat for taunting simply for signaling a first down. Killed the drive, we punted and they scored on the next drive. No answer for Chris Brown. That guy won them a Big XII Title. '01 sucked..weird year in the Big XII...

That wildcat that got called for the penalty is now the head football coach at Derby High School.

Gooch · « **Reply #12 on:** October 13, 2014, 04:32:30 PM »

Quote from: Fedor on October 13, 2014, 04:19:40 PM

Quote from: Bookcat on October 13, 2014, 04:11:59 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on October 13, 2014, 04:05:03 PM
Quote from: Bookcat on October 13, 2014, 04:02:04 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on October 13, 2014, 03:58:30 PM
17 penalties for 139 yards

Also this game had the old timing rules when the referee decided when to start the play clock. Hybl got sacked forcing a 4th and long with 59 seconds left, it took the referee 22 seconds to start the play clock.

Wow. Its all coming back to me. We got major screwed on that down. ...lost by 1. Refs had it in for us that year.

IIRC the same thing with the play clock happened later that season as well, Colorado maybe?

Well, the Buff game was interesting because as soon as we got any offense going...they flagged a Wildcat for taunting simply for signaling a first down. Killed the drive, we punted and they scored on the next drive. No answer for Chris Brown. That guy won them a Big XII Title. '01 sucked..weird year in the Big XII...
That wildcat that got called for the penalty is now the head football coach at Derby High School.

His dad owes Pete a new grill lid too.

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #13 on:** October 13, 2014, 05:34:16 PM »

Yeah, the 22 second ball spot, coming off the tipped pass PI call in the 00 Pepper.

Really could have used some Pollard in the pressers back then.

ChiComCat · « **Reply #14 on:** October 13, 2014, 05:38:49 PM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on October 13, 2014, 05:34:16 PM

Yeah, the 22 second ball spot, coming off the tipped pass PI call in the 00 Pepper.

Really could have used some Pollard in the pressers back then.

We didn't go Pollard but we submitted a complaint. I believe the B12 came back and said 22 secs is pretty standard, STFU.

pvegs · « **Reply #15 on:** October 13, 2014, 05:46:16 PM »

Very K-State vs. good teams game. Get down after a wretched, error-filled start, make enough exciting plays to torture fans into continuing to watch while never really having a shot to win.

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #16 on:** October 13, 2014, 07:14:13 PM »

Quote from: MakeItRain on October 13, 2014, 04:05:03 PM

Quote from: Bookcat on October 13, 2014, 04:02:04 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on October 13, 2014, 03:58:30 PM
17 penalties for 139 yards

Also this game had the old timing rules when the referee decided when to start the play clock. Hybl got sacked forcing a 4th and long with 59 seconds left, it took the referee 22 seconds to start the play clock.

Wow. Its all coming back to me. We got major screwed on that down. ...lost by 1. Refs had it in for us that year.

IIRC the same thing with the play clock happened later that season as well, Colorado maybe?

Happened at the end of '04 KU I know.

As far as the 2001 team not playing to their talent, the Big XII was really good that year, and the CU and A&M games we had horrible turnover after horrible turnover.

pvegs · « **Reply #17 on:** October 13, 2014, 07:31:00 PM »

Quote from: MakeItRain on October 13, 2014, 03:27:13 PM

This game is on ESPN Classic right now and holy crap, I forgot just how good Ell was. I have no idea why/how this 2001 team turned out so garbagey, there's do much talent on the field.

Man, just looked at the roster from that year. That backfield

Scobey, Roberson, Rock Cartright, Joe Hall, Darren Sproles

scottwildcat · « **Reply #18 on:** October 13, 2014, 07:52:08 PM »

Quote from: pvegs on October 13, 2014, 07:31:00 PM

Quote from: MakeItRain on October 13, 2014, 03:27:13 PM
This game is on ESPN Classic right now and holy crap, I forgot just how good Ell was. I have no idea why/how this 2001 team turned out so garbagey, there's do much talent on the field.

Man, just looked at the roster from that year. That backfield
Scobey, Roberson, Rock Cartright, Joe Hall, Darren Sproles

EMAWzified · « **Reply #19 on:** October 13, 2014, 08:11:46 PM »

Offensive line was young, tho. Wasn't it Lecky's freshman year and he started. I watched the Nebraska game on YouTube from the next year. rough ridin' awesome team. It really could have won the NC with some breaks.

Steffy08 · « **Reply #20 on:** October 13, 2014, 08:44:08 PM »

Quote from: EMAWzified on October 13, 2014, 08:11:46 PM

Offensive line was young, tho. Wasn't it Lecky's freshman year and he started. I watched the Nebraska game on YouTube from the next year. rough ridin' awesome team. It really could have won the NC with some breaks.

Our 2002 team would be favored head to head against any other Cat team. Loaded with talent.

Pud non-conference schedule cost us that year; weren't quite ready for Big 12 play.

Winters · « **Reply #21 on:** October 13, 2014, 08:46:58 PM »

Quote from: Steffy08 on October 13, 2014, 08:44:08 PM

Quote from: EMAWzified on October 13, 2014, 08:11:46 PM
Offensive line was young, tho. Wasn't it Lecky's freshman year and he started. I watched the Nebraska game on YouTube from the next year. rough ridin' awesome team. It really could have won the NC with some breaks.

Our 2002 team would be favored head to head against any other Cat team. Loaded with talent.

Pud non-conference schedule cost us that year; weren't quite ready for Big 12 play.

USC was a huge pud

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #22 on:** October 13, 2014, 08:49:53 PM »

Quote from: Steffy08 on October 13, 2014, 08:44:08 PM

Quote from: EMAWzified on October 13, 2014, 08:11:46 PM
Offensive line was young, tho. Wasn't it Lecky's freshman year and he started. I watched the Nebraska game on YouTube from the next year. rough ridin' awesome team. It really could have won the NC with some breaks.

Our 2002 team would be favored head to head against any other Cat team. Loaded with talent.

Pud non-conference schedule cost us that year; weren't quite ready for Big 12 play.

They just gave up a few monster plays in the UT and CU games, and it cost them.

Cire · « **Reply #23 on:** October 13, 2014, 09:39:28 PM »

Lots of line injuries. And Marc Dunn running speed option

EllRobersonisInnocent · « **Reply #24 on:** October 13, 2014, 09:50:17 PM »

Quote from: Cire on October 13, 2014, 09:39:28 PM

Lots of line injuries. And Marc Dunn running speed option

Marc Dunn can get mumped. I can't think of a worse QB in the Snyder era.