snyder

[DQ12]

you dumb, dumb, dumb, idiots who talk bad about snyder.

who is talking bad?

You and OK Cat.  Two peas in a dumbass pod. 

[kim carnes]

you dumb, dumb, dumb, idiots who talk bad about snyder.

who is talking bad?

You and OK Cat.  Two peas in a dumbass pod.

not really but ok

[bucket]

"I’ve got a tape recorder and two (memory) cards full of mistakes," K-State coach LHC Bill Snyder said.

Sounds like the ol' wild Bill, I know.

[pvegs]

you dumb, dumb, dumb, idiots who talk bad about snyder.

who is talking bad?

You and OK Cat.  Two peas in a dumbass pod.

KC and Okc are pretty bad. What MBC said is right and insightful, jmho

[kim carnes]

you dumb, dumb, dumb, idiots who talk bad about snyder.

who is talking bad?

You and OK Cat.  Two peas in a dumbass pod.

KC and Okc are pretty bad. What MBC said is right and insightful, jmho

hey pvegs, eff you

[pvegs]

you dumb, dumb, dumb, idiots who talk bad about snyder.

who is talking bad?

You and OK Cat.  Two peas in a dumbass pod.

KC and Okc are pretty bad. What MBC said is right and insightful, jmho

hey pvegs, eff you

Copy that, Carnes. Over.

[purplehaze]

I love Snyder but he is not the same win at any cost coach he was in the nineties.  He's changed and it's evident in the players he plays and the amount of the decision making he allows the assistants to make

So 2012 was not win at all cost? Confused.

[MixBerryCrunch]

I love Snyder but he is not the same win at any cost coach he was in the nineties.  He's changed and it's evident in the players he plays and the amount of the decision making he allows the assistants to make

So 2012 was not win at all cost? Confused.

Nope. Klein as a battering ram was the only thing we could do. He had no other option.

[bucket]

I love Snyder but he is not the same win at any cost coach he was in the nineties.  He's changed and it's evident in the players he plays and the amount of the decision making he allows the assistants to make

So 2012 was not win at all cost? Confused.

To me, it's also evident in terms of team culture, things like the emphasis on family and guys earning it (of course he's always said that but now it's part of our brand) and not offering scholarships to murderers, killing Klein when he got sketti'd, or starting accused rapists in bowl games. Obviously there are exceptions - offering Boyd and then pretending like we didn't after his arrest. I am certain that Snyder wants to win, stupid to say otherwise, I'm just saying maybe MBC is right that Snyder's trying to do it in a slightly different way now that he's older and his legacy is cemented.

He's doing it differently because the culture has changed. The rest of college football has caught up so he has to improvise again. He can't do it the old way because it won't work.

[kim carnes]

I love Snyder but he is not the same win at any cost coach he was in the nineties.  He's changed and it's evident in the players he plays and the amount of the decision making he allows the assistants to make

So 2012 was not win at all cost? Confused.

To me, it's also evident in terms of team culture, things like the emphasis on family and guys earning it (of course he's always said that but now it's part of our brand) and not offering scholarships to murderers, killing Klein when he got sketti'd, or starting accused rapists in bowl games. Obviously there are exceptions - offering Boyd and then pretending like we didn't after his arrest. I am certain that Snyder wants to win, stupid to say otherwise, I'm just saying maybe MBC is right that Snyder's trying to do it in a slightly different way now that he's older and his legacy is cemented.

He's doing it differently because the culture has changed. The rest of college football has caught up so he has to improvise again. He can't do it the old way because it won't work.

what are you even talking about?  like, you're just saying words

[MixBerryCrunch]

I love Snyder but he is not the same win at any cost coach he was in the nineties.  He's changed and it's evident in the players he plays and the amount of the decision making he allows the assistants to make

So 2012 was not win at all cost? Confused.

To me, it's also evident in terms of team culture, things like the emphasis on family and guys earning it (of course he's always said that but now it's part of our brand) and not offering scholarships to murderers, killing Klein when he got sketti'd, or starting accused rapists in bowl games. Obviously there are exceptions - offering Boyd and then pretending like we didn't after his arrest. I am certain that Snyder wants to win, stupid to say otherwise, I'm just saying maybe MBC is right that Snyder's trying to do it in a slightly different way now that he's older and his legacy is cemented.

He's doing it differently because the culture has changed. The rest of college football has caught up so he has to improvise again. He can't do it the old way because it won't work.

He's doing it differently because his personality has changed. It's pretty easy to see and that isn't bashing him that's just accepting reality.   

[WildcatPower]

If K-State didn't make the adjustments at halftime, when they were getting manhandled before halftime, then yeah, perhaps so.

But man, whoever said that the game has passed him, just got flat out out-schemed by Snyd.

[bucket]

I love Snyder but he is not the same win at any cost coach he was in the nineties.  He's changed and it's evident in the players he plays and the amount of the decision making he allows the assistants to make

So 2012 was not win at all cost? Confused.

To me, it's also evident in terms of team culture, things like the emphasis on family and guys earning it (of course he's always said that but now it's part of our brand) and not offering scholarships to murderers, killing Klein when he got sketti'd, or starting accused rapists in bowl games. Obviously there are exceptions - offering Boyd and then pretending like we didn't after his arrest. I am certain that Snyder wants to win, stupid to say otherwise, I'm just saying maybe MBC is right that Snyder's trying to do it in a slightly different way now that he's older and his legacy is cemented.

He's doing it differently because the culture has changed. The rest of college football has caught up so he has to improvise again. He can't do it the old way because it won't work.

He's doing it differently because his personality has changed. It's pretty easy to see and that isn't bashing him that's just accepting reality.

I feel he HAS to recruit different players. That the college football landscape is much more competitive. He HAS to take a simpler approach because the old tricks and gimmicks aren't new anymore.

I agree that he has given assistants more power, but I'm not sure what you mean by, "it's evident in the players he plays." He's always played the guys who know the system best. Players from the first championship team have mentioned how the most talented players didn't always play. It's because the inferior athletes knew his system better and knew where to be at all times. Just like today with Will Davis, and Jonathan Truman this year and last.

[Legit Elite]

8-1 in our last nine and these guys are still complaining.  Same dorks that were crying just before we went 21-5 in '11 and '12....

....and some of our best talent DNP today!!!

[bucket]

8-1 in our last nine and these guys are still complaining.  Same dorks that were crying just before we went 21-5 in '11 and '12....

....and some of our best talent DNP today!!!

[MixBerryCrunch]

I need someone to explain to me why our front seven is the slowest and most un-athletic it's been in years if it's not Snyder. And why we are so hard up for skill players. 

[bucket]

I need someone to explain to me why our front seven is the slowest and most un-athletic it's been in years if it's not Snyder. And why we are so hard up for skill players.

A LOT more schools recruit Texas now.

[Clevey 2 Times]

I need someone to explain to me why our front seven is the slowest and most un-athletic it's been in years if it's not Snyder. And why we are so hard up for skill players.

This'll change quickly. Our most athletic front seven players are still riding the pine, but Snyder is no idiot. Those guys will be on the field once they catch on. May even see this a bit v. Auburn. Will definitely see it later in season.

[Pett]

Disagree.  However, Fat Ass Mangino does have his number.   He's like The Fonz in The Waterboy.

Where are you dorks getting this? Snyder is 4-1 against Mangino. Forget about MM's couple of years as OC in Norman

[SPEmaw]

I need someone to explain to me why our front seven is the slowest and most un-athletic it's been in years if it's not Snyder. And why we are so hard up for skill players.

I'll reiterate my earlier post in another thread: snyder is getting them ready for Auburn and they've had dead legs the first two weeks. They'll be ready.