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Re: Texas Football is hurting
« Reply #125 on: September 09, 2015, 03:31:31 PM »
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Re: Texas Football is hurting
« Reply #126 on: September 09, 2015, 03:33:30 PM »

Does your memory not go back the 20 months or so ago when they hired strong as like their 5th or 6th choice?

Also the narrative when Mack left is that he and his staff just stopped recruiting and the cupboards were beyond bare. If that is the case why are we indicting Charlie Strong after 14 games? There's no way UT makes a bowl last year with butter teeth still there.

do you think it's possible they mumped up the hire?   


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« Reply #127 on: September 09, 2015, 04:24:13 PM »
I don't think it was the fact that Mack stopped recruiting, it was the fact that Mack and staff just stopped recruiting in a way that actually made sense.   Which may be worse.   They were just taking guys because they had a huge rating and because they could, without real evaluations of where they fit into the system. 



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Re: Texas Football is hurting
« Reply #128 on: September 09, 2015, 04:32:20 PM »

Does your memory not go back the 20 months or so ago when they hired strong as like their 5th or 6th choice?

Also the narrative when Mack left is that he and his staff just stopped recruiting and the cupboards were beyond bare. If that is the case why are we indicting Charlie Strong after 14 games? There's no way UT makes a bowl last year with butter teeth still there.

do you think it's possible they mumped up the hire?

Going through a half dozen guys before getting someone to say yes generally isn't a blueprint for success.

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Re: Texas Football is hurting
« Reply #129 on: September 09, 2015, 04:55:46 PM »
A handful of coaches could come into UT and be successful in year 1.  Charlie Strong appears to not be one of them.  UT has/should have the pull to get one of these coaches. 

His seat is certainly hot. 

They literally couldnt get that kind of coach 18 months ago and tried their asses off.

gotcha.  so UT is not a program capable of pulling a coach who could be successful in year 1?

The only coach who has had great success at a major program that was down when he arrived in Year 1 is Urban Meyer. There are far more cases where they make the big leap in Year 2 - Carroll at USC, Stoops at OU, Saban at Alabama. Even Mack Brown didn't really breakthrough with a big season until Year 4. Not exactly the same, but Snyder's big leap came in Year 2.


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« Reply #130 on: September 09, 2015, 05:06:22 PM »
A handful of coaches could come into UT and be successful in year 1.  Charlie Strong appears to not be one of them.  UT has/should have the pull to get one of these coaches. 

His seat is certainly hot. 

They literally couldnt get that kind of coach 18 months ago and tried their asses off.

gotcha.  so UT is not a program capable of pulling a coach who could be successful in year 1?

The only coach who has had great success at a major program that was down when he arrived in Year 1 is Urban Meyer. There are far more cases where they make the big leap in Year 2 - Carroll at USC, Stoops at OU, Saban at Alabama. Even Mack Brown didn't really breakthrough with a big season until Year 4. Not exactly the same, but Snyder's big leap came in Year 2.

good points.  not really fair to cast too much blame on Strong for year 1.  but, if the ND game is any indicator, there won't be a big leap in year 2.  notwithstanding, I still don't think Strong is/was an elite coach and I think UT should have been able to do better.     

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Re: Texas Football is hurting
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Re: Texas Football is hurting
« Reply #132 on: September 09, 2015, 06:02:07 PM »
In retrospect, Art Briles would have been an amazing hire for Texas.

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« Reply #133 on: September 09, 2015, 06:05:29 PM »
In retrospect, Art Briles would have been an amazing hire for Texas.

He's probably one of 4-5 coaches who would be able to take that job and not get fired in less than 4 years.

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« Reply #134 on: September 09, 2015, 06:09:53 PM »
In retrospect, Art Briles would have been an amazing hire for Texas.

In retrospect? At the time everyone thought he would been a great hire. He was their second choice behind Nick freaking Saban.

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Re: Texas Football is hurting
« Reply #135 on: September 09, 2015, 06:13:06 PM »
In retrospect, Art Briles would have been an amazing hire for Texas.

In retrospect? At the time everyone thought he would been a great hire. He was their second choice behind Nick freaking Saban.

mmh yeah ok.

He would have given them the "feel good" Texas wins with 70 point blow outs even if they did lose to ND and OU on a regular basis.

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Re: Texas Football is hurting
« Reply #136 on: September 09, 2015, 06:56:57 PM »
Keeping Mack Brown would have been a great hire

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Re: Texas Football is hurting
« Reply #137 on: September 09, 2015, 07:14:47 PM »
Why keep mack brown when every coach in the world would kill to coach at texas?
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Re: Texas Football is hurting
« Reply #138 on: September 09, 2015, 07:55:54 PM »
Keeping Mack Brown would have been a great hire
He was probably the best coach in the history of the conference.

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Re: Texas Football is hurting
« Reply #139 on: September 09, 2015, 08:19:21 PM »

Why keep mack brown when every coach in the world would kill to coach at texas?

Well, I mean, him being a better coach for starters.

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Re: Texas Football is hurting
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« Reply #141 on: September 09, 2015, 08:49:56 PM »
In retrospect, Art Briles would have been an amazing hire for Texas.

In retrospect? At the time everyone thought he would been a great hire. He was their second choice behind Nick freaking Saban.

mmh yeah ok.

He would have given them the "feel good" Texas wins with 70 point blow outs even if they did lose to ND and OU on a regular basis.

You know we're essentially saying the same thing, right?

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Re: Texas Football is hurting
« Reply #142 on: September 09, 2015, 08:55:44 PM »
Yeah of course Briles would have been a good hire.  He's one of the best coaches in the country.

I'd really like to see Mack get a nice Larry Brown-esque coaching gig.  Hell, SMU should hire him.


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Re: Texas Football is hurting
« Reply #143 on: September 09, 2015, 10:43:22 PM »
Yeah of course Briles would have been a good hire.  He's one of the best coaches in the country.

I'd really like to see Mack get a nice Larry Brown-esque coaching gig.  Hell, SMU should hire him.
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Re: Texas Football is hurting
« Reply #144 on: September 10, 2015, 09:00:50 AM »
i could see mack taking a job on sean's staff next year


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Re: Texas Football is hurting
« Reply #145 on: September 10, 2015, 09:12:10 AM »
I want Mack to be the next coach of the Fighting Kansas State Wildcat Football team, give him 4 years let him win another Dr. Pepper and crush UT, and then let him ride off in the sunset.


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Re: Texas Football is hurting
« Reply #146 on: September 10, 2015, 10:12:05 AM »
I want Mack to be the next coach of the Fighting Kansas State Wildcat Football team, give him 4 years let him win another Dr. Pepper and crush UT, and then let him ride off in the sunset.


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Re: Texas Football is hurting
« Reply #147 on: September 10, 2015, 10:14:09 AM »

Why keep mack brown when every coach in the world would kill to coach at texas?

Well, I mean, him being a better coach for starters.


SD, better coach: Mack or Ned Yost?

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Re: Texas Football is hurting
« Reply #149 on: September 10, 2015, 10:23:36 AM »