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Re: Official NBA Thread
« Reply #1575 on: October 15, 2019, 10:35:12 AM »
i think lebron tried to be a little too woke


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« Reply #1576 on: October 15, 2019, 11:58:55 AM »
I read it was pro-China propaganda.

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« Reply #1577 on: October 15, 2019, 01:26:38 PM »
morey thinks he's woke. just more western people who think they know best for other countries without understanding everything :jerk:

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« Reply #1578 on: October 15, 2019, 02:34:38 PM »
The people protesting in Hong Kong probably just don't understand everything, too.

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« Reply #1579 on: October 15, 2019, 03:18:16 PM »
I don't quite understand why people are so upset with LeBron. Obviously a ridiculously unique situation but any CEO of a company who relies on China for as much revenue as the NBA does will take stances against statements like Morey's.

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« Reply #1580 on: October 15, 2019, 06:38:38 PM »
I don't quite understand why people are so upset with LeBron. Obviously a ridiculously unique situation but any CEO of a company who relies on China for as much revenue as the NBA does will take stances against statements like Morey's.
I assume it’s because he has built a whole lot of his brand and persona on very public moral stands over the last few years. People are upset to find out that was more about making money than personal conviction.
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« Reply #1581 on: October 15, 2019, 11:37:30 PM »
I don't quite understand why people are so upset with LeBron. Obviously a ridiculously unique situation but any CEO of a company who relies on China for as much revenue as the NBA does will take stances against statements like Morey's.
I assume it’s because he has built a whole lot of his brand and persona on very public moral stands over the last few years. People are upset to find out that was more about making money than personal conviction.

what should his public moral stand be in regards to HK and China that would satisfy folks? (even though most people mad at him also think he should shut up and dribble)

but all social justice causes are different. he probably has a better chance of influencing change for something like education or racial justice in the US than China//HK.

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« Reply #1582 on: October 16, 2019, 01:07:17 AM »
on a more positive note, the nba has some exciting rookies this year

zion of course
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whoever the hell carsen edwards is just went crazy

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« Reply #1583 on: October 16, 2019, 09:39:12 AM »
I don't quite understand why people are so upset with LeBron. Obviously a ridiculously unique situation but any CEO of a company who relies on China for as much revenue as the NBA does will take stances against statements like Morey's.
I assume it’s because he has built a whole lot of his brand and persona on very public moral stands over the last few years. People are upset to find out that was more about making money than personal conviction.

what should his public moral stand be in regards to HK and China that would satisfy folks? (even though most people mad at him also think he should shut up and dribble)

but all social justice causes are different. he probably has a better chance of influencing change for something like education or racial justice in the US than China//HK.

Either say nothing or support Hong Kong. Publicly supporting a communist dictatorship over the people who just don't want to live under that is a bad look.

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« Reply #1584 on: October 16, 2019, 09:43:54 AM »
yeah I guess he could have said "no comment".

Still, the outrage and self righteousness feels fake and forced when our entire economy is completely intertwined and supports this "communist dictatorship". Whether or not it's right, we're all complicit.

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« Reply #1585 on: October 16, 2019, 09:52:55 AM »
I think Lebron's stance seems far more fake. Unless he wants to go into detail about why he believes the people of Hong Kong are wrong to not want to be a part of China, he probably shouldn't criticize other people for supporting them.


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« Reply #1586 on: October 16, 2019, 10:11:29 AM »


I think Lebron's stance seems far more fake. Unless he wants to go into detail about why he believes the people of Hong Kong are wrong to not want to be a part of China, he probably shouldn't criticize other people for supporting them.


Did he say the people of Hong Kong were wrong? All I saw was he said that Morey (who quickly deleted his tweet) made a mistake?

Also I don't think people in HK are trying to no longer be a part of China, just have more autonomy. China participates in some mumped up crap to be sure but what they're doing with HK is pretty mild on the scale of evil.

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« Reply #1587 on: October 16, 2019, 10:20:54 AM »


I think Lebron's stance seems far more fake. Unless he wants to go into detail about why he believes the people of Hong Kong are wrong to not want to be a part of China, he probably shouldn't criticize other people for supporting them.


Did he say the people of Hong Kong were wrong? All I saw was he said that Morey (who quickly deleted his tweet) made a mistake?

Also I don't think people in HK are trying to no longer be a part of China, just have more autonomy. China participates in some mumped up crap to be sure but what they're doing with HK is pretty mild on the scale of evil.

They are fine being in China as long as they don't have to live under Chinese authority. They don't want China to be able to extradite Hong Kong citizens, and they would like to be able to voice their opinion without fear of arrest. They also want to be able to have votes that count. I guess that's not the same as "not wanting to be part of China" but it's basically the same.

The tweet he criticized said "Fight for freedom. Stand with Hong Kong." How is it possible to say that message is wrong without saying the people of Hong Kong are wrong?

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« Reply #1588 on: October 16, 2019, 11:50:45 AM »


I think Lebron's stance seems far more fake. Unless he wants to go into detail about why he believes the people of Hong Kong are wrong to not want to be a part of China, he probably shouldn't criticize other people for supporting them.


Did he say the people of Hong Kong were wrong? All I saw was he said that Morey (who quickly deleted his tweet) made a mistake?

Also I don't think people in HK are trying to no longer be a part of China, just have more autonomy. China participates in some mumped up crap to be sure but what they're doing with HK is pretty mild on the scale of evil.

They are fine being in China as long as they don't have to live under Chinese authority. They don't want China to be able to extradite Hong Kong citizens, and they would like to be able to voice their opinion without fear of arrest. They also want to be able to have votes that count. I guess that's not the same as "not wanting to be part of China" but it's basically the same.

The tweet he criticized said "Fight for freedom. Stand with Hong Kong." How is it possible to say that message is wrong without saying the people of Hong Kong are wrong?

You can believe Morey didn't fully consider the implications when he made that tweet but still agree with the content. No doubt LeBron was sloppy but I don't think it diminishes his calls for human rights domestically and it shouldn't prevent him from speaking out on certain issues in the future.

Bill Simmons has a pretty balanced take on it.

https://www.theringer.com/the-bill-simmons-podcast/2019/10/16/20917014/lebrons-stumble-and-highest-nba-contender-ceilings-bill-simmons-podcast

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Re: Official NBA Thread
« Reply #1589 on: October 16, 2019, 01:24:20 PM »
I stand with Charmain Xi.
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« Reply #1590 on: October 16, 2019, 02:01:54 PM »
haven't been following the news, is the hong kong thing something dennis rodman can fix?

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Re: Official NBA Thread
« Reply #1592 on: October 19, 2019, 09:32:02 AM »


I think Lebron's stance seems far more fake. Unless he wants to go into detail about why he believes the people of Hong Kong are wrong to not want to be a part of China, he probably shouldn't criticize other people for supporting them.


Did he say the people of Hong Kong were wrong? All I saw was he said that Morey (who quickly deleted his tweet) made a mistake?

Also I don't think people in HK are trying to no longer be a part of China, just have more autonomy. China participates in some mumped up crap to be sure but what they're doing with HK is pretty mild on the scale of evil.

They are fine being in China as long as they don't have to live under Chinese authority. They don't want China to be able to extradite Hong Kong citizens, and they would like to be able to voice their opinion without fear of arrest. They also want to be able to have votes that count. I guess that's not the same as "not wanting to be part of China" but it's basically the same.

The tweet he criticized said "Fight for freedom. Stand with Hong Kong." How is it possible to say that message is wrong without saying the people of Hong Kong are wrong?

You can believe Morey didn't fully consider the implications when he made that tweet but still agree with the content. No doubt LeBron was sloppy but I don't think it diminishes his calls for human rights domestically and it shouldn't prevent him from speaking out on certain issues in the future.

Bill Simmons has a pretty balanced take on it.

https://www.theringer.com/the-bill-simmons-podcast/2019/10/16/20917014/lebrons-stumble-and-highest-nba-contender-ceilings-bill-simmons-podcast

I don't think it diminishes other causes themselves he advocates for, but how could it not diminish his voice to the public as an advocate, just functionally as far as public reception?

Whether it should or shouldn't, I dunno, just seems like it will as a matter of inconsistency when considering what China does.

Why do separate HK and its citizens versus other effed crap that the Chinese government does? Do you expect HK's citizens to not take those other human rights abuses into consideration when they advocate for themselves?

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« Reply #1593 on: October 23, 2019, 01:21:19 PM »
My favorite storylines this season are:

1.How good will the Warriors be? I think they will be much better, especially come playoff time, than they’re being given credit for.

2. The LAL v LAC battle. The Lakers are going to be pretty decent I think, but good God, the Clippers are absolutely loaded. I don’t see how any team can really compete with them in a seven game series. Should Kawhi earn another title and maybe another Finals MVP, where do we start putting him in terms of all time greats? And how high can he rise. He’s just now fully into his prime. SCARY.

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« Reply #1594 on: October 23, 2019, 02:49:17 PM »
Clips are fun to watch. Great characters on that team

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« Reply #1595 on: October 23, 2019, 02:57:39 PM »
Clips are fun to watch. Great characters on that team

Yes! Can't wait until Rod gets healthy. He's a great fit.

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« Reply #1596 on: October 25, 2019, 10:34:37 AM »
it was fun having a supervillain team. who should i hate this season? i want to hate boston but they aren't going to be a great team. don't mind the LA teams and i like lebron a lot.

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Re: Official NBA Thread
« Reply #1597 on: October 25, 2019, 12:41:41 PM »
Houston?

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« Reply #1598 on: October 25, 2019, 12:47:31 PM »
Houston?

they might also be bad and PJ Tucker is my favorite role player in the league.

stunz I'd suggest just relishing the Warriors totally sucking all year. They might be hilariously bad this year

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« Reply #1599 on: October 25, 2019, 12:50:37 PM »
I'll still root against the Warriors until they prove on the court that they suck. I pretty much always root against the best team.