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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #250 on: April 15, 2014, 01:20:35 PM »
You should both sell your cars for cheaper ones and completely shut off cable.

And I think that since you are basically paying off her loans, ALL of her money should go into the joint account. I realize it's a trust thing, but she's mumped you over so well there you go.

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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #251 on: April 15, 2014, 01:27:31 PM »
Demand incredible sexual favors on the daily. Like, put it in a contract and stuff. Get real weird about it. You have the power in this relationship now 1_hub.

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« Reply #252 on: April 15, 2014, 01:28:05 PM »
What is the interest rate on these loans? You mentioned that it was outrageous earlier, but just how high is it?

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« Reply #253 on: April 15, 2014, 01:29:24 PM »
Demand incredible sexual favors on the daily. Like, put it in a contract and stuff. Get real weird about it. You have the power in this relationship now 1_hub.

Doesn't matter if it is in a contract. She obviously doesn't adhere to her agreements even when they are written down.

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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #254 on: April 15, 2014, 01:30:27 PM »
DNR this thread but if poor financial fortune befell me the worst thing about it would be my inability to churn airline credit cards err'day

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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #255 on: April 15, 2014, 01:31:01 PM »
You should both sell your cars for cheaper ones and completely shut off cable.

And I think that since you are basically paying off her loans, ALL of her money should go into the joint account. I realize it's a trust thing, but she's mumped you over so well there you go.

Basically you have to look at it this way:  any equity or value you could take out of your vehicles for cheaper ones...the cost of that additional luxury or utility is being financed at the interest rate of your highest interest rate loan.  That makes the cost of keeping or owning anything of value that you have very very high.  You should consider selling crap you have little use for, like guns, jewelry, electronics, etc.

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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #256 on: April 15, 2014, 01:37:16 PM »
How can you find an undergrad that expensive that offers no scholarship/pell/anything?

it's like she wanted to run up as much debt as she could.

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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #257 on: April 15, 2014, 01:40:00 PM »
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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #258 on: April 15, 2014, 01:40:57 PM »
Yeah, is moving in with family an option?

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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #259 on: April 15, 2014, 01:41:24 PM »
and i'd definitely downgrade on the car situaish unless you have some circumstance that requires one (1) decent vehicle for work travel or something

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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #260 on: April 15, 2014, 01:43:15 PM »
yeah, you've got to get rid of that care payment.  That makes no sense.

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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #261 on: April 15, 2014, 01:45:21 PM »
Does she work from home? I imagine a freelance writer could get by working from home, so you could probably make do with one car.

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« Reply #262 on: April 15, 2014, 02:02:28 PM »
and the dreaded 45k from the mafia which, as Trim accurately surmised, had gone into default and so now they are demanding to be paid in full real fast.
*The original offer from the debt collection agency was she come up with $5k in 3 weeks, and then they would accept $1600/mo for the next 24 months. 

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You still haven't cleared this up, so I'm sticking with my understanding that the "mafia" was the last debt buyer (NCO?) in the chain, while the "debt collection agency" is the party you've been dealing with lately (NES?).

If I'm right, she owes NCO $45K.  NCO, for reasons that should be obvious at this point, hasn't sued her yet or instructed NES to quit rough ridin' around with you guys and move on to getting this to an attorney for suit.  Another sign is that the collection agency, on NCO's behalf, is willing to take $43,400 over the course of 2 years as settlement of a debt of $45K that's due now and is accruing interest.

They're completely tipping their hand that they can't get a better result by suing you, or at least not any better than what the small difference in paying the collection agency a percentage vs. paying an attorney a percentage would be.

Your wife's financial situation is likely actually a great point of leverage for you to strike a much better deal than what's on the table now.  And of course, with whatever deal she makes that will have you paying much less than she owes, you better make sure it's well-documented, especially since you're not dealing directly with the creditor here (or maybe you are, who knows, we won't, even if this goes another dozen pages).

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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #263 on: April 15, 2014, 07:27:49 PM »
and the dreaded 45k from the mafia which, as Trim accurately surmised, had gone into default and so now they are demanding to be paid in full real fast.
*The original offer from the debt collection agency was she come up with $5k in 3 weeks, and then they would accept $1600/mo for the next 24 months. 

"They"

You still haven't cleared this up, so I'm sticking with my understanding that the "mafia" was the last debt buyer (NCO?) in the chain, while the "debt collection agency" is the party you've been dealing with lately (NES?).

If I'm right, she owes NCO $45K.  NCO, for reasons that should be obvious at this point, hasn't sued her yet or instructed NES to quit rough ridin' around with you guys and move on to getting this to an attorney for suit.  Another sign is that the collection agency, on NCO's behalf, is willing to take $43,400 over the course of 2 years as settlement of a debt of $45K that's due now and is accruing interest.

They're completely tipping their hand that they can't get a better result by suing you, or at least not any better than what the small difference in paying the collection agency a percentage vs. paying an attorney a percentage would be.

Your wife's financial situation is likely actually a great point of leverage for you to strike a much better deal than what's on the table now.  And of course, with whatever deal she makes that will have you paying much less than she owes, you better make sure it's well-documented, especially since you're not dealing directly with the creditor here (or maybe you are, who knows, we won't, even if this goes another dozen pages).

and then don't miss one payment by a rough ridin' penny or a rough ridin' minute, or they'll likely invalidate the deal and call the debt due in full.

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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #264 on: April 15, 2014, 07:41:09 PM »
Negotiate that mofo down!

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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #265 on: April 15, 2014, 07:44:06 PM »
Trim please take on hub pro bono, then when you settle his debt for pennies on the dollar make him agree to pay what he was going to pay the debt collectors to the fatty fund. 
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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #266 on: April 15, 2014, 08:27:22 PM »
Cutting back on premium tv channels and groceries?  Whose sock is this?

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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #267 on: April 15, 2014, 11:57:22 PM »
Negotiate that mofo down!

Private student loan companies have zero incentive to negotiate.   They'll just sue and garnish wages.   Other debt collectors will be more receptive because they're afraid you'll just file bankruptcy and they're mumped.

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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #268 on: April 16, 2014, 12:34:06 AM »
What is the interest rate on these loans? You mentioned that it was outrageous earlier, but just how high is it?

Using a HP12C, deducting 5,000 from the 45,000 at 1,600/mo for 24 mo works out to 3.89% per annum. I don't think hub initially meant high rate but high monthly payment.

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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #269 on: April 16, 2014, 12:42:17 AM »
What is the interest rate on these loans? You mentioned that it was outrageous earlier, but just how high is it?

Using a HP12C, deducting 5,000 from the 45,000 at 1,600/mo for 24 mo works out to 3.89% per annum. I don't think hub initially meant high rate but high monthly payment.

Not a finance guy but 3.89 doesn't sound terrible.

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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #270 on: April 16, 2014, 02:58:58 AM »
Good grief.

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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #271 on: April 16, 2014, 08:08:40 AM »
What is the interest rate on these loans? You mentioned that it was outrageous earlier, but just how high is it?

Using a HP12C, deducting 5,000 from the 45,000 at 1,600/mo for 24 mo works out to 3.89% per annum. I don't think hub initially meant high rate but high monthly payment.

Not a finance guy but 3.89 doesn't sound terrible.

It's not bad at all. 24 months is a short period to pay that kind of debt off, but all things considered, that's a lot better than I would have expected.

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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #272 on: April 16, 2014, 08:40:20 AM »
Hey Trim I was thinking the same thing that NCO were tipping their hands with the offer they made.  Even if they got the max 25% wage garnishment, they still won't get paid in full for like 20+ years, and that's assuming they got that judgment tomorrow.  Mrs Hub is supposed to have a phone meeting today, I'm telling her to negosh that biz down, just workin on what a good counter would be.

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« Reply #273 on: April 16, 2014, 08:41:57 AM »
Demand incredible sexual favors on the daily. Like, put it in a contract and stuff. Get real weird about it. You have the power in this relationship now 1_hub.

I better stock up on batteries... :fatty:

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« Reply #274 on: April 16, 2014, 08:46:03 AM »
Trim please take on hub pro bono, then when you settle his debt for pennies on the dollar make him agree to pay what he was going to pay the debt collectors to the fatty fund.

is the fatty fund a 501(c)? Because in the next few years i'm gunna need to take all the tax dedux i can get