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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #225 on: April 14, 2014, 04:08:18 PM »
You know how many students I talk to daily who quit school, ignored sallie mae, and try and come back years later, only to find themselves in default? They always say: "I didn't know!" Bull crap you didn't know, you just thought you could ignore it and it would go away. Now they've got 30k in debt, no degree, and can't qualify for financial aid.
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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #226 on: April 14, 2014, 04:11:44 PM »
You know how many students I talk to daily who quit school, ignored sallie mae, and try and come back years later, only to find themselves in default. They always say: "I didn't know!" Bull crap you didn't know, you just thought you could ignore it and it would go away. Now they've got 30k in debt, no degree, and can't qualify for financial aid.

do you ever feel bad about perpetuating this problem at your current job?

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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #227 on: April 14, 2014, 04:13:41 PM »
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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #228 on: April 14, 2014, 04:14:09 PM »
He's financing dreams. 
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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #229 on: April 14, 2014, 04:16:15 PM »
You know how many students I talk to daily who quit school, ignored sallie mae, and try and come back years later, only to find themselves in default. They always say: "I didn't know!" Bull crap you didn't know, you just thought you could ignore it and it would go away. Now they've got 30k in debt, no degree, and can't qualify for financial aid.

do you ever feel bad about perpetuating this problem at your current job?
No. Not really. I enroll a lot of nurses. They make it back. We also have a career services department that teams up with our students to help them find jobs. This place is not as bad as UOP. A lot of these students are grant eligible as well. I'm pretty jealous of them in those regards.
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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #230 on: April 14, 2014, 04:19:29 PM »
my cousin was a recruiter in KC (i don't know which school, sorry wacky) for the last two months or so until she quit last week.  she said working in that place was just awful, and couldn't live with herself doing it any longer.  her boss pretty much told her that she wasn't fleecing enough money from poor black people, and that she needed to step her game up.

i hope that's not what wacky's job is like, cause i think he's generally a pretty good person.
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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #231 on: April 14, 2014, 04:24:51 PM »
my cousin was a recruiter in KC (i don't know which school, sorry wacky) for the last two months or so until she quit last week.  she said working in that place was just awful, and couldn't live with herself doing it any longer.  her boss pretty much told her that she wasn't fleecing enough money from poor black people, and that she needed to step her game up.

i hope that's not what wacky's job is like, cause i think he's generally a pretty good person.
Yeah, I have no clue where that place is, but that guy would be fired and that school would lose their accredidation quickly if reported. For-profit schools lives changed a lot in 2010. They had to change the way they paid their employees, had stronger academic guidelines to abide by, etc. I've always worked for an accredited institution. So that makes me feel a little better. I know the horror stories out there and can assure you a lot of that has changed since 2010. I'm recorded daily. If anyone says anything unethical, they are fired immediately. Corporate has to listen to these conversations daily, cause if they lose their accredidation, they're mumped.

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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #232 on: April 14, 2014, 04:25:49 PM »
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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #233 on: April 14, 2014, 04:29:11 PM »
Also, I've looked into similar positions for K-State. They can only pay like half of what for-profits can.  :frown:

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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #234 on: April 14, 2014, 04:33:16 PM »
why'd you ninja edit!  the other word actually fit really well  :D
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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #235 on: April 14, 2014, 04:33:51 PM »
Also, just an example how tight they are around here. A student asked me on the phone if her credits would transfer in the other day. I got written up for saying the word "potentially" instead of saying "we can have the registrars office look at them to get a better look at your options".

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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #236 on: April 14, 2014, 04:34:16 PM »
why'd you ninja edit!  the other word actually fit really well  :D
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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #237 on: April 14, 2014, 04:41:41 PM »
Also, just an example how tight they are around here. A student asked me on the phone if her credits would transfer in the other day. I got written up for saying the word "potentially" instead of saying "we can have the registrars office look at them to get a better look at your options".
You need to get a new job, are you looking?
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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #238 on: April 14, 2014, 04:45:20 PM »
Also, just an example how tight they are around here. A student asked me on the phone if her credits would transfer in the other day. I got written up for saying the word "potentially" instead of saying "we can have the registrars office look at them to get a better look at your options".
You need to get a new job, are you looking?
It will be a year in October. This was a comfy find after the lay off I had with the software sales job. I would like to eventually be an employee recruiter and work in HR.

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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #239 on: April 14, 2014, 04:47:16 PM »
Also, just an example how tight they are around here. A student asked me on the phone if her credits would transfer in the other day. I got written up for saying the word "potentially" instead of saying "we can have the registrars office look at them to get a better look at your options".
You need to get a new job, are you looking?
It will be a year in October. This was a comfy find after the lay off I had with the software sales job. I would like to eventually be an employee recruiter and work in HR.

No clue what you make now, but I have heard that employee recruiters don't make a lot.  Certainly not the money you discussed at your last gig.

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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #240 on: April 14, 2014, 04:49:38 PM »
Also, just an example how tight they are around here. A student asked me on the phone if her credits would transfer in the other day. I got written up for saying the word "potentially" instead of saying "we can have the registrars office look at them to get a better look at your options".
You need to get a new job, are you looking?
It will be a year in October. This was a comfy find after the lay off I had with the software sales job. I would like to eventually be an employee recruiter and work in HR.

No clue what you make now, but I have heard that employee recruiters don't make a lot.  Certainly not the money you discussed at your last gig.
Yeah, i'm kinda lost right now. My manager has talked to me about management/team lead, but that could be like a year. I'm doing just fine with this and my side gig, but would like something bigger down the road. I'm making 1/3 more here than I was at UOP.

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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #241 on: April 14, 2014, 04:51:27 PM »
Also, just an example how tight they are around here. A student asked me on the phone if her credits would transfer in the other day. I got written up for saying the word "potentially" instead of saying "we can have the registrars office look at them to get a better look at your options".
You need to get a new job, are you looking?
It will be a year in October. This was a comfy find after the lay off I had with the software sales job. I would like to eventually be an employee recruiter and work in HR.

No clue what you make now, but I have heard that employee recruiters don't make a lot.  Certainly not the money you discussed at your last gig.
Yeah, i'm kinda lost right now. My manager has talked to me about management/team lead, but that could be like a year. I'm doing just fine with this and my side gig, but would like something bigger down the road. I'm making 1/3 more here than I was at UOP.

I meant the software joint

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« Reply #242 on: April 14, 2014, 04:52:25 PM »
Also, just an example how tight they are around here. A student asked me on the phone if her credits would transfer in the other day. I got written up for saying the word "potentially" instead of saying "we can have the registrars office look at them to get a better look at your options".
You need to get a new job, are you looking?
It will be a year in October. This was a comfy find after the lay off I had with the software sales job. I would like to eventually be an employee recruiter and work in HR.

No clue what you make now, but I have heard that employee recruiters don't make a lot.  Certainly not the money you discussed at your last gig.
Yeah, i'm kinda lost right now. My manager has talked to me about management/team lead, but that could be like a year. I'm doing just fine with this and my side gig, but would like something bigger down the road. I'm making 1/3 more here than I was at UOP.

I meant the software joint
Yeah, I know. That was a hefty blow to my wallet and confidence for awhile. I learned from it tho.

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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #243 on: April 14, 2014, 08:58:42 PM »
Rooting for you, Hub.

It will be hard, but you should talk with your wife. Don't let the collectors dictate the terms if you have other options available (and you do).

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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #244 on: April 14, 2014, 09:01:27 PM »
 
Also, I've looked into similar positions for K-State. They can only pay like half of what for-profits can.  :frown:
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« Reply #245 on: April 14, 2014, 09:23:05 PM »
Also, I've looked into similar positions for K-State. They can only pay like half of what for-profits can.  :frown:
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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #246 on: April 14, 2014, 09:28:18 PM »
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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #248 on: April 15, 2014, 01:12:33 PM »
Was going to give mrs. hub til wednesday but with taxes being due I couldn't help myself and we had the talk the other day.  Since i've already pretty much told you guys everything except our social security numbers, I don't mind filling in a few more of the unsavory details:
*So she (we) are staring down the barrel of  :sdeek: a cool hondo.  (Like I said, she decided she wanted to go to the finest colleges money could buy).  40k in consolidated federal which she has been paying, 15k in private sallie mae which she has also been paying, and the dreaded 45k from the mafia which, as Trim accurately surmised, had gone into default and so now they are demanding to be paid in full real fast.
*The original offer from the debt collection agency was she come up with $5k in 3 weeks, and then they would accept $1600/mo for the next 24 months.  Since i'll be getting $2k back from my tax return that I will give to her instead of making an additional house payment, that will put us pretty close to being able to fork over the $5k they are asking for, although from what I've seen here I am confident they can and will negotiate to something a little more reasonable like a smaller up front payment and a smaller monthly payment stretched out over 3 years instead of 2.
*We went over our monthly budget and were able to cut out $300/mo by lowering our grocery budget, cutting out the sweet cable tiers, but the bulk of it came from our agreeing to sacrifice the portion of our monthly budget that was allocated to "general savings/oh crap something broke"
*Another big adjustment we hadn't made was for another $900/mo which we had been putting into our account to pay for our wedding.  We've only been married a few months now and I guess we hadn't gotten around to adjusting our budget since we'd finished paying off our wedding related expenses.
*Mrs Hub bought her car back when we were still just dating.  In fairness to her, she absolutely needed a DIFFERENT car, but a NEW car, well...that was just stupid.  How she got financing, I have no idea.  In hindsight,  I wish I would have been a little more involved in that decision although at that point we weren't even living together so
*Her car payment is $400/mo.  She is open to the idea of selling it to free up that extra $400 each month.  The "pay it off today" price of her car is something like 15k, which, since she has put a relatively low amount of miles on it and has kept it clean and in good shape...she might be able to get that much for it, i dunno?

So basically the take away from all of this is Hubs gunna be putting a couple hundred extra dollars into the joint account each month, she will be contributing virtually nothing to the JA and instead virtually all of her income for the next 2 (or hopefully 3)years will go towards paying off her student loans and an accelerated rate, and then once the biggest one is paid off she will continue to aggressively pay off what's left of the 2 outstanding loans.  Over this time we will both finish paying our cars off (unless she and/or I sell them first) which will free up extra money, and it's fair to assume that on our current trajectories we should continue to receive yearly pay increases which can be put towards her loans.

Haven't finished crunching the numbers, in part because we have not completed negotiations with the collectors, but I think that, as long as we can both avoid any great misfortune, we should have her debt free in about 10 years.

At which point, Mrs Gooch is probably correct in that she will leave my ass.  Marrying poor people...woof.

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Re: Debt Collectors
« Reply #249 on: April 15, 2014, 01:17:26 PM »
i would make sure that all the fed loans are consolidated and at the lowest possible % rate and for the longest amount of repayment period possible. then i would get a general deferment or forebearance or whatever and stop payment on them for a year or two while putting all that money towards the other stuff. jmo.