I Wish Kirk And John Would Explain These

[kso_FAN]

my expectations in league.

top 5 every year.
Really Challenge for a big 12 title every 3 years or so.

Tourney.
Just play to seed.

For me, assuming that we will maintain a level of going to the tourney about every year you've got to win games and play to seed.  If that does not happen next year oscar should be on the hot seat.

Agree.

[Spracne]

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

What a stupid rough ridin' thread.  My gawd.

[michigancat]

my expectations in league.

top 5 every year.
Really Challenge for a big 12 title every 3 years or so.

Tourney.
Just play to seed.

For me, assuming that we will maintain a level of going to the tourney about every year you've got to win games and play to seed.  If that does not happen next year oscar should be on the hot seat.

Agree.

If he's in the tourney three years in a row with who we would have returning it would be incredibly foolish to consider firing him over the results of three our four games.

[Kat Kid]

The best thing Weber is doing is winning a lot at home which is fun because it emphasizes the whole OOD thing. At least there's that.

it can't be that if the fans don't buy in and they clearly have not, this isn't the OOD just a solid program doing well at home in a conference where everyone does

I agree with this.  OOD used to be a great atmosphere, now it's just solid, I think it could've stayed like that if Underwood had been hired.

The atmosphere is great now and the results are actually better.  I'll take that.

[Cire]

my expectations in league.

top 5 every year.
Really Challenge for a big 12 title every 3 years or so.

Tourney.
Just play to seed.

For me, assuming that we will maintain a level of going to the tourney about every year you've got to win games and play to seed.  If that does not happen next year oscar should be on the hot seat.

Agree.

If he's in the tourney three years in a row with who we would have returning it would be incredibly foolish to consider firing him over the results of three our four games.

Hot seat is appropriate.

[michigancat]

What the eff does hot seat mean

[MakeItRain]

The best thing Weber is doing is winning a lot at home which is fun because it emphasizes the whole OOD thing. At least there's that.

it can't be that if the fans don't buy in and they clearly have not, this isn't the OOD just a solid program doing well at home in a conference where everyone does

I agree with this.  OOD used to be a great atmosphere, now it's just solid, I think it could've stayed like that if Underwood had been hired.

That's not what I'm saying at all and I don't agree with your post. I do think there would have been a drop off with Brad. I don't blame oscar for the drop in attendance, atmosphere and momentum; he's won games, lots of them.

KK, you're right about the atmosphere being just as good but it isn't as consistent, there has absolutely a drop off

[Cire]

What the eff does hot seat mean

Gmafb

[michigancat]

What the eff does hot seat mean

Gmafb

you are rough ridin' say it you define it

[Cire]

at that point he has 2 years max to do something REALY good.  Is there another kind of hot seat?

[michigancat]

at that point he has 2 years max to do something REALY good.  Is there another kind of hot seat?

yes, there's all kinds. I never thought of it being defined that way.

[SuperG]

To expound, I've never had a problem that a major part of gE is that most people don't just go with the popular opinion and the desire to have high expectations. Its part of why I like it here so much in fact.

However, I think a lot of people don't have the ability to disagree and give criticism without basically calling the person they disagree with a dumbass and coming off as a prick.

There's also a lot of people that do have that ability, but it gets drowned out by the people who love to call people dumbasses. I also don't think this is uncommon on most internet message boards.




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[kso_FAN]

I also don't think this is uncommon on most internet message boards.

Yes, this is very true.

I was more speaking to twitter and that's likely who the prez was blocking.

[Trim]

Meritocracy is good.

[WillieWatanabe]

This thread has been much better than i anticipated. Good job gE.

[steve dave]

This thread has been much better than i anticipated. Good job gE.

We are a good group on the whole

[CHONGS]

This thread has been much better than i anticipated. Good job gE.

We are a good group on the whole

I say we give ourselves a raise!

[EMAWzified]

The Va Tech hiring is interesting.

[AndrewVonLintel]

oscar Weber Seeds in tournament   



S. Illinois   
99      DNQ
00      NIT  
01      DNQ
02      #11     Sweet Sixteen      (overachieved by two rounds)
03      #11    lost 1st game           (played to seed)

Illinois  (Dee Brown)
04    #5       Sweet Sixteen       (Basically played to seed by beating #4 Cincinnati, Huggs)
05     #1       2nd place               (He was overall #1 seed and lost in the national championship game, I think of it as overachieving by one game)
06    #4       2nd round              (played to seed  lost to #5  seed Washington)

Post Dee Brown
07     #12     lost first game        (played to seed)
08    DNQ     
09    #5       lost first game        (underachieved by one game, loss was #12 Western Kentucky)
10    NIT                                     (#1 seed Illinois lost to Dayton in NIT Regional Championship)
11     #9      round of 32             (lost to #1 seed Kansas)
12     DNQ     

Kansas State

13     #4                                         lost first game to LaSalle
14     #9                                         lost to Lawrentucky


On average I think oscar plays to his seed  but I am concerned that without Dee Brown or Angel Rodriguez his seeds tend to be much lower.

oscar is doing pretty much what he did at Illinois, which is the resume that he had when we hired him. Unless our administration changes their expectations for the coaching position, I don't believe he will be on the hot seat for 4 or 5 years.
 

[yoman]

This thread has been much better than i anticipated. Good job gE.

We are a good group on the whole

I say we give ourselves a raise!

Not in the budget. We were counting on our annual boost from winning the BBS championships. Michigan really screwed the pooch on that one.

[ChiComCat]

The only thing that will put oscar on a hot seat a year from now is off the court stuff/player mutiny.  I wouldn't count on it.

[wetwillie]

The only thing that will put oscar on a hot seat a year from now is off the court stuff/player mutiny.  I wouldn't count on it.

Maybe if season ticket holders stop buying tickets and write on the notecard that it is because oscar is the coach.

[Dr Rick Daris]

i don't really have any issue w/ the tweets. i mean what do you expect them to say? it really was an overall pretty decent season by most peoples standards for what they want our bball to be. plus i just love the heck out of the animal on twitter.

[ChiComCat]

The only thing that will put oscar on a hot seat a year from now is off the court stuff/player mutiny.  I wouldn't count on it.

Maybe if season ticket holders stop buying tickets and write on the notecard that it is because oscar is the coach.

Sure, if all of them do it.  I think so far just enough to be noticed have, but not near enough to be weighed into any decision.