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Re: I Wish Kirk And John Would Explain These
« Reply #50 on: March 22, 2014, 02:29:08 PM »
I don't like going into ncaa games knowing you don't have a chance. It is not any fun, and with frank, you at least had a shot at winning some games.  We sucked this year and had no heart. This program is better than winning 4 road games all year, and I blame oscar for that

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Re: I Wish Kirk And John Would Explain These
« Reply #51 on: March 22, 2014, 02:29:10 PM »
"making noise" is pretty vague

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Re: I Wish Kirk And John Would Explain These
« Reply #52 on: March 22, 2014, 02:30:15 PM »
I think at some point you actually have to make noise in the NCAA to sustain the program.

if you're going every year you'll eventually "make noise".

you hope

are you willing to watch oscar go 1-6 in his next 6 seasons, I'm not

He apparently is completely willing to get the participation ribbon.

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Re: I Wish Kirk And John Would Explain These
« Reply #53 on: March 22, 2014, 02:33:04 PM »
The best thing Weber is doing is winning a lot at home which is fun because it emphasizes the whole OOD thing. At least there's that.

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Re: I Wish Kirk And John Would Explain These
« Reply #54 on: March 22, 2014, 02:35:03 PM »
I think at some point you actually have to make noise in the NCAA to sustain the program.

if you're going every year you'll eventually "make noise".

you hope

are you willing to watch oscar go 1-6 in his next 6 seasons, I'm not

He apparently is completely willing to get the participation ribbon.

I honestly am OK with those results, but I think it would be pretty unlikely for it to happen.

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Re: I Wish Kirk And John Would Explain These
« Reply #55 on: March 22, 2014, 02:35:25 PM »
Currie's not talking about the rough start.  He said all year.  But, yeah, there's probably nothing to it - just the adversity of injuries and stuff that all team deal with.

We were a good team, though.  Making the NCAA tournament is great.  It seems like people are dismissive of the accomplishment.

was our season any different than West Virginia's, seriously

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Re: I Wish Kirk And John Would Explain These
« Reply #56 on: March 22, 2014, 02:35:54 PM »
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"In the locker room, there’s some tears," K-State head coach oscar Weber said. "Tears of joy from the season that we had, but also tears of sadness that we just didn’t have enough to continue."

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Re: I Wish Kirk And John Would Explain These
« Reply #57 on: March 22, 2014, 02:36:54 PM »
I think at some point you actually have to make noise in the NCAA to sustain the program.

if you're going every year you'll eventually "make noise".

you hope

are you willing to watch oscar go 1-6 in his next 6 seasons, I'm not

He apparently is completely willing to get the participation ribbon.

I honestly am OK with those results, but I think it would be pretty unlikely for it to happen.

but it already has

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Re: I Wish Kirk And John Would Explain These
« Reply #58 on: March 22, 2014, 02:37:16 PM »
Holy crap

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« Reply #59 on: March 22, 2014, 02:38:28 PM »
See, I read those tweets and think that they are for Joe kstate fan to read and feel good about.

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Re: I Wish Kirk And John Would Explain These
« Reply #60 on: March 22, 2014, 02:40:27 PM »
The best thing Weber is doing is winning a lot at home which is fun because it emphasizes the whole OOD thing. At least there's that.

it can't be that if the fans don't buy in and they clearly have not, this isn't the OOD just a solid program doing well at home in a conference where everyone does

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« Reply #61 on: March 22, 2014, 02:41:24 PM »
was our season any different than West Virginia's, seriously

We made the tournament. They didn't. We had 7 top 50 wins (rpi) and 9 top 100, they had 4 and 5 respectively. I'd say that's different.

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Re: I Wish Kirk And John Would Explain These
« Reply #62 on: March 22, 2014, 02:42:53 PM »
The best thing Weber is doing is winning a lot at home which is fun because it emphasizes the whole OOD thing. At least there's that.

it can't be that if the fans don't buy in and they clearly have not, this isn't the OOD just a solid program doing well at home in a conference where everyone does
I agree with this.  OOD used to be a great atmosphere, now it's just solid, I think it could've stayed like that if Underwood had been hired.

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Re: I Wish Kirk And John Would Explain These
« Reply #63 on: March 22, 2014, 02:43:59 PM »
I think at some point you actually have to make noise in the NCAA to sustain the program.

if you're going every year you'll eventually "make noise".

you hope

are you willing to watch oscar go 1-6 in his next 6 seasons, I'm not

He apparently is completely willing to get the participation ribbon.

I honestly am OK with those results, but I think it would be pretty unlikely for it to happen.

but it already has

No, it hasn't.

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Re: I Wish Kirk And John Would Explain These
« Reply #64 on: March 22, 2014, 02:44:04 PM »
The best thing Weber is doing is winning a lot at home which is fun because it emphasizes the whole OOD thing. At least there's that.

it can't be that if the fans don't buy in and they clearly have not, this isn't the OOD just a solid program doing well at home in a conference where everyone does

I think plenty of fans have bought in. I won't claim the excitement is the same level as it was, but I also don't see apathy. The crowd at good games I went to was very good IMO.

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Re: I Wish Kirk And John Would Explain These
« Reply #65 on: March 22, 2014, 02:47:57 PM »
Currie's not talking about the rough start.  He said all year.  But, yeah, there's probably nothing to it - just the adversity of injuries and stuff that all team deal with.

We were a good team, though.  Making the NCAA tournament is great.  It seems like people are dismissive of the accomplishment.

was our season any different than West Virginia's, seriously

I knew we'd very likely make the tournament after six or seven conference wins.  (Don't remember which.) I never thought WVU was in.  I don't know how much better we were than WVU, but being a fan of theirs would have been a much different experience for me.

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« Reply #66 on: March 22, 2014, 02:50:18 PM »

I knew we'd very likely make the tournament after six or seven conference wins.  (Don't remember which.) I never thought WVU was in.  I don't know how much better we were than WVU, but being a fan of theirs would have been a much different experience for me.

Put it this way, by early February we were never really on the bubble and West Virginia wasn't either.

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« Reply #67 on: March 22, 2014, 02:52:22 PM »
was our season any different than West Virginia's, seriously

We made the tournament. They didn't. We had 7 top 50 wins (rpi) and 9 top 100, they had 4 and 5 respectively. I'd say that's different.

yes because just making the tournament clearly satisfied our fan base. The context of that question was within what's fun for fans, most fans don't think about top 100 fans. The difference is we beat Gonzaga and Texas at home, they lost those games

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« Reply #68 on: March 22, 2014, 02:53:59 PM »
I think at some point you actually have to make noise in the NCAA to sustain the program.

if you're going every year you'll eventually "make noise".

you hope

are you willing to watch oscar go 1-6 in his next 6 seasons, I'm not

He apparently is completely willing to get the participation ribbon.

I honestly am OK with those results, but I think it would be pretty unlikely for it to happen.

but it already has

No, it hasn't.

oscar Weber is 1-6 in his last 6 tournament appearances

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« Reply #69 on: March 22, 2014, 02:56:34 PM »
was our season any different than West Virginia's, seriously

We made the tournament. They didn't. We had 7 top 50 wins (rpi) and 9 top 100, they had 4 and 5 respectively. I'd say that's different.

yes because just making the tournament clearly satisfied our fan base. The context of that question was within what's fun for fans, most fans don't think about top 100 fans. The difference is we beat Gonzaga and Texas at home, they lost those games

I think it's a lot more fun to have 4 more quality wins and I think most fans do. It would've been much more frustrating as a fan not to make the tournament, especially for the 2nd year in a row.

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Re: I Wish Kirk And John Would Explain These
« Reply #70 on: March 22, 2014, 03:00:56 PM »
I think at some point you actually have to make noise in the NCAA to sustain the program.

if you're going every year you'll eventually "make noise".

you hope

are you willing to watch oscar go 1-6 in his next 6 seasons, I'm not

He apparently is completely willing to get the participation ribbon.

I honestly am OK with those results, but I think it would be pretty unlikely for it to happen.

but it already has

No, it hasn't.

oscar Weber is 1-6 in his last 6 tournament appearances

2-6, and they weren't consecutive

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Re: I Wish Kirk And John Would Explain These
« Reply #71 on: March 22, 2014, 03:04:09 PM »
If a loser school like Iowa State can consistently make a run in March, we can easily.

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Re: I Wish Kirk And John Would Explain These
« Reply #72 on: March 22, 2014, 03:09:04 PM »
I think at some point you actually have to make noise in the NCAA to sustain the program.

if you're going every year you'll eventually "make noise".

you hope

are you willing to watch oscar go 1-6 in his next 6 seasons, I'm not

He apparently is completely willing to get the participation ribbon.

I honestly am OK with those results, but I think it would be pretty unlikely for it to happen.

but it already has

No, it hasn't.

oscar Weber is 1-6 in his last 6 tournament appearances

2-6, and they weren't consecutive

yeah the hypothetical consecutive years makes it more tolerable; I'm guessing that no one would be happy with 2-6 in the tournament mixed in with a NIT appearance and 2 years of no postseason.

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Re: I Wish Kirk And John Would Explain These
« Reply #73 on: March 22, 2014, 03:09:48 PM »
If a loser school like Iowa State can consistently make a run in March, we can easily.

Iowa State hasn't made a tournament run in 14 years.

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Re: I Wish Kirk And John Would Explain These
« Reply #74 on: March 22, 2014, 03:17:28 PM »
my expectations in league.

top 5 every year.
Really Challenge for a big 12 title every 3 years or so.

Tourney.
Just play to seed.

For me, assuming that we will maintain a level of going to the tourney about every year you've got to win games and play to seed.  If that does not happen next year oscar should be on the hot seat.