Author Topic: hypothetical money sitch (Read 2809 times)

Dr Rick Daris · « **on:** March 20, 2014, 05:59:33 PM »

so some guy that is just a horrible guy gives you twenty five dollars to give to some other guy that is also probably just a horrible guy. anyway you begrudgingly agree because the first guy has his kids with him and you don't want to punch his lights out in front of them (even though you obvs could). anyway and totally hypothetical here...let's say that he gives you 25 dollars and you are all like year whatever fine i'll get it to him for you and then you have the oppy to exchange the money off and you realize that you only have 24 dollars cashola on you. i mean you probably don't really owe that other guy a dollar do you? i mean gosh darn i don't know how much free time you guys have but if i'm relaying money/dollars/cash real time then we can prob just let bygones be bygones, no? thoughts?

star seed 7 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 20, 2014, 06:04:35 PM »

wonder what the police would have to say bout this

wetwillie · « **Reply #2 on:** March 20, 2014, 06:07:59 PM »

any reasonable person considers that one dollar a transaction fee.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 20, 2014, 06:09:17 PM »

Quote from: wetwillie on March 20, 2014, 06:07:59 PM

any reasonable person considers that one dollar a transaction fee.

the the payer should have given 26 dollars. you can't take that out of the receivers end.

sys · « **Reply #4 on:** March 20, 2014, 06:12:16 PM »

what you are contemplating is not ethical.

chum1 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 20, 2014, 06:19:52 PM »

You don't owe the second guy crap. The first guy owes him. You have the first guy's $25, though. So, the next time you see the first guy, give him $25 and say, "This is the money you gave me for [the second guy]. I just couldn't do it, man."

sys · « **Reply #6 on:** March 20, 2014, 06:24:22 PM »

Quote from: chum1 on March 20, 2014, 06:19:52 PM

You don't owe the second guy crap. The first guy owes him. You have the first guy's $25, though. So, the next time you see the first guy, give him $25 and say, "This is the money you gave me for [the second guy]. I just couldn't do it, man."

giving the one guy $24 and the original guy one dollar back would be funnier.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #7 on:** March 20, 2014, 06:27:19 PM »

You are absolutely fine.

Dr Rick Daris · « **Reply #8 on:** March 20, 2014, 06:29:13 PM »

i mean this is all up in the air you guys because i already used an additional "middle man" to get the money from guy a to guy b. what if this middle man keeps a dollar for himself? should i have vetted that? is that my responsibility? man what a messed up situation. i mean someone would darn near have to quit their job to have the free time to make this exchange happen. i mean wtf right?

michigancat · « **Reply #9 on:** March 20, 2014, 06:29:47 PM »

i'm so confused

AST · « **Reply #10 on:** March 20, 2014, 06:30:25 PM »

i know what's going on here! rick, it's totally cool to pinch a little out of the sack to fill your bong before passing the sack along.

Mr Bread · « **Reply #11 on:** March 20, 2014, 06:30:55 PM »

What happened to the missing dollar?

sys · « **Reply #12 on:** March 20, 2014, 06:37:14 PM »

Quote from: Mr Bread on March 20, 2014, 06:30:55 PM

What happened to the missing dollar?

missing dollars, afawk.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #13 on:** March 20, 2014, 06:41:42 PM »

Whose to say the middle man didn't take the dollar. I mean if there were some very ethical witnesses present when the money changed hands and they all say the middle man received the correct amount, how will the ultimate person receiving the money know who took the dollar?

sys · « **Reply #14 on:** March 20, 2014, 06:44:19 PM »

what a slippery slope.

Mr Bread · « **Reply #15 on:** March 20, 2014, 06:47:33 PM »

I don't like what this new name is doing to daris.

chum1 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 20, 2014, 06:48:28 PM »

Quote from: sys on March 20, 2014, 06:24:22 PM

Quote from: chum1 on March 20, 2014, 06:19:52 PM
You don't owe the second guy crap. The first guy owes him. You have the first guy's $25, though. So, the next time you see the first guy, give him $25 and say, "This is the money you gave me for [the second guy]. I just couldn't do it, man."

giving the one guy $24 and the original guy one dollar back would be funnier.

I don't think rowdyboyy wants to be that helpful to the first guy (who he described as horrible).

michigancat · « **Reply #17 on:** March 20, 2014, 07:05:30 PM »

Quote from: Mr Bread on March 20, 2014, 06:30:55 PM

What happened to the missing dollar?

FAN needed a friggin iced tea at mcdonald's or something

kso_FAN · « **Reply #18 on:** March 20, 2014, 07:32:43 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on March 20, 2014, 07:05:30 PM

Quote from: Mr Bread on March 20, 2014, 06:30:55 PM
What happened to the missing dollar?

FAN needed a friggin iced tea at mcdonald's or something

No.

I am just (hypothetically) a witness to a portion of the transaction.

What we have here is a classic A to B to C to D transaction. For whatever reason A owed D money, but instead of using mail or finding another way to directly deal with D, A asked B for help. B is very nice person so he complied. B realized he wouldn't probably see D anytime soon. During an interaction with C, who D sees on a regular basis apparently, B asked if C could help with the transaction. B then gave C the money to give to D at a more convenient time.

With all of these moving parts who knows the real issue.

Maybe A never gave B a full $25 dollars. Maybe B has a thief living with him that stole the money. Maybe someone stole the dollar stealthily while B handed the money to C. Maybe C took the dollar for his part in the transaction.

I'm not sure we'll ever know the answer.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #19 on:** March 20, 2014, 07:38:04 PM »

sounds like A is a really horrible person

AST · « **Reply #20 on:** March 20, 2014, 07:38:20 PM »

so does $24 really stand for $24,000 and $25 for $25,000. i mean this whole episode is not very

if it is over $1

solution. give the payee $25 and have no more interactions with the payer.

Tobias · « **Reply #21 on:** March 20, 2014, 07:43:48 PM »

this is the rake-iest thread ever

Johnny Wichita · « **Reply #22 on:** March 21, 2014, 08:11:10 AM »

Sounds a lot like theft to me. Also, what happened to the 25th dollar? Daris, did you check the between the couch cushions? Sure maybe this fine, upstanding gentleman who pays his debts, accidentally only gave you $24. Another likely scenario: as you sat on the couch drooling and watching cartoons, your hands, slippery with cheeto cheese, lost one of the dollars into the depths of the couch. Also, have you asked an adult to double check your math?

Institutional Control · « **Reply #23 on:** March 21, 2014, 08:16:07 AM »

Quote from: seven on March 20, 2014, 06:09:17 PM

Quote from: wetwillie on March 20, 2014, 06:07:59 PM
any reasonable person considers that one dollar a transaction fee.

the the payer should have given 26 dollars. you can't take that out of the receivers end.

Paypal does.

slobber · « **Reply #24 on:** March 21, 2014, 08:23:29 AM »

This looks like a great place to get some advice on a similar situation:

Say you go to a charity event that this guy (DUDE from here on) spent like a ton of time to get set up. This was a real fancy thing and there was a silent auction, live auction, open bar, great food, ect.ect. (

). Anyway, you bid on several silent auction items (it's for the kids and you are not an animal for Christ's sake) and even raise your paddle for a few live auction items that really aren't going to work in your schedule so you were just bidding to run up the price.

At the end of the night, you win 4 or 5 silent auction items, which can be taken home from the auction or picked up later. You pick up all of the items that you won except for one. That item happens to be a 6 pack of Boulevard beer, a gift certificate to a craft beer store, and a few trinkets. One of the ladies helping the DUDE run the event texts you a few days later and says, "DUDE drank your beer, but dobber Jr. has your gift certificate and trinkets and is bringing them home from school."

Do you let it go that DUDE drank your beer, or do you hunt him down and beat a six pack of Boulevard (don't recall the flavor) out of him?