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Drew-dful; BU ADV
« on: March 08, 2014, 04:35:36 PM »


Completely punked in the 2nd half by Scott Drew and the Baylor Bears. Our 3PT shooting looks nice, but that's only because of Foster going 5-5 in the last 5 minutes after K-State got down 56-46. Also, my biggest concern (oboarding) was dominated by K-State, but it didn't matter because the Bears dominated on 2PT shots.

The Cats started the 2nd half by immediately building a 12 point lead, then gave up a 9-2 Baylor run, got it seemingly back under control and up 7 (43-36) and then completely fell apart from the 13 minute mark until 5 minute mark when Heslip's 3 made it 56-46 after a 20-3 run. Foster made things interesting, but the Big 12's worst FT shooting team in Big 12 play (66% coming in) proceeded to make their last 17 free throws to hold off the Cats.

An ugly way to finish the season with 2 losses and limp into the Big 12 tournament against Iowa State. A very disappointing afternoon.


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Re: Drew-dful; BU ADV
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2014, 04:44:37 PM »
Needed to attack the rim more in the 2nd half, but we defiantly don't have the right pieces to play against a long zone.

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Re: Drew-dful; BU ADV
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2014, 04:44:47 PM »
Pretty terrible basketball.

This final conference stretch showed that '13-'14 K-State was just a slightly above mediocre team, that's likely to be a one and done in the NCAA.

It also points the spotlight squarely back on Weber late season falters.   




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Re: Drew-dful; BU ADV
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2014, 04:45:17 PM »
The defense in the 2nd half was not good at all. However u can't score 9 pts in a 12:45 span at home against their below ave road defense.                                        SSouthwell is just worthless. Missed 2/3 of his FGs and FTs and had ZERO Rebs.  Will had a tough day shooting but at least he played hard

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Re: Drew-dful; BU ADV
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2014, 04:47:02 PM »
Pretty terrible basketball.

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Re: Drew-dful; BU ADV
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2014, 04:47:44 PM »
Pretty terrible basketball.

This final conference stretch showed that '13-'14 K-State was just a slightly above mediocre team, that's likely to be a one and done in the NCAA.

It also points the spotlight squarely back on Weber late season falters.

Yeah, it's hard to deny that after such a terrible half of basketball at home to end the regular season.

Honestly, I don't care much about next week, I just want to see an NCAA win. Do that and I'll be okay with this season. Hopefully Foster can carry this team the next couple of seasons, but some of the other guys must develop.

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Re: Drew-dful; BU ADV
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2014, 04:48:18 PM »
The defense in the 2nd half was not good at all. However u can't score 9 pts in a 12:45 span at home against their below ave road defense.                                        SSouthwell is just worthless. Missed 2/3 of his FGs and FTs and had ZERO Rebs.  Will had a tough day shooting but at least he played hard
Westicles and Will can't be that bad offensively.

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Re: Drew-dful; BU ADV
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2014, 04:54:20 PM »
Pretty terrible basketball.

This final conference stretch showed that '13-'14 K-State was just a slightly above mediocre team, that's likely to be a one and done in the NCAA.

It also points the spotlight squarely back on Weber late season falters.

Yeah, it's hard to deny that after such a terrible half of basketball at home to end the regular season.

Honestly, I don't care much about next week, I just want to see an NCAA win. Do that and I'll be okay with this season. Hopefully Foster can carry this team the next couple of seasons, but some of the other guys must develop.
NCAA experience will be great for this team specially if they can get to a second game. Don't think Foster will have to carry the team the next couple of years because of all the upgrades around him. One of oscar's best traits is player development. Then you add in the additions of Edwards, Bolden, Hurt and a shooter like Harris and you have a way better team.

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« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2014, 04:59:49 PM »
How many pull up jumpers did Chery hit dribbling right handed and pulling up? About 4-5 in the games first 25 min.  Gotta take away that right hand more because he doesn't pull up ( for jumper) going left.                                   Then careless plays. Jevon throws a pass right to Chery. Foster with an unforced bad pass early 2nd. Gip fumbles a DReb out of bounds after a miss FT.

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« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2014, 05:00:36 PM »
What was Will's development?   Shane?  I guess starving Gip worked.  JFC.  You probably think the reason ku's big men were good was because of Manning. 

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Re: Drew-dful; BU ADV
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2014, 05:07:15 PM »
Very KITNs game.  Feel like ISU will smoke us and then we'll probably get put out in the first round of NCAAs.  Four game losing streak to end the year......smh.

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« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2014, 05:10:44 PM »
How many pull up jumpers did Chery hit dribbling right handed and pulling up? About 4-5 in the games first 25 min.  Gotta take away that right hand more because he doesn't pull up ( for jumper) going left.                                   Then careless plays. Jevon throws a pass right to Chery. Foster with an unforced bad pass early 2nd. Gip fumbles a DReb out of bounds after a miss FT.

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Re: Drew-dful; BU ADV
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2014, 05:12:07 PM »
Nino 10 reb 24 min. Shane 0 reb 19 min.  Not to mention Shane misses 1and1, then misses 1 of 2 FTs and laughs after 1st miss.  Its sad Shane doesn't play with a chip on his shoulder anymore.  Only thing he does well these days is Pout

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« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2014, 05:39:29 PM »
Jevon and Shane have no business getting anything but garbage minutes.  Very disappointing.
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Re: Drew-dful; BU ADV
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2014, 06:18:49 PM »
laugh & pout, pout & laugh.  eff southwell (senior).
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Re: Drew-dful; BU ADV
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2014, 06:24:18 PM »
Our best Sr. today was Schultz (sp?)

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Re: Drew-dful; BU ADV
« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2014, 07:30:40 PM »
In case you guys were wondering what Foster does after a home loss, he goes to Chili's.

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Re: Drew-dful; BU ADV
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2014, 07:58:14 PM »
In case you guys were wondering what Foster does after a home loss, he goes to Chili's.

Hope he wasn't hanging out with any of the rough ridin' losers from the team.
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« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2014, 08:02:01 PM »
Nope, with a filly.

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Re: Drew-dful; BU ADV
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2014, 09:21:57 PM »
NuWill looked like Jevon today but with worse defense. He couldn't penetrate that zone nor could he shoot, it was dreadful to see.

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Re: Drew-dful; BU ADV
« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2014, 09:31:24 PM »
He had some bad turnovers, but 8 assists and 3 steals. However, this team can't afford for Will to shoot 6 threes and not make one.

At the end of the day, no one could guard Cherry and Jefferson made plays. To give up 1.44 ppp in the 2nd half with so much on the line was very disappointing and most Big 12 teams would have beat us with that defense.

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Re: Drew-dful; BU ADV
« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2014, 09:59:12 PM »
In case you guys were wondering what Foster does after a home loss, he goes to Chili's.

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« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2014, 10:22:15 PM »


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Re: Drew-dful; BU ADV
« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2014, 10:35:13 PM »
He had some bad turnovers, but 8 assists and 3 steals. However, this team can't afford for Will to shoot 6 threes and not make one.

At the end of the day, no one could guard Cherry and Jefferson made plays. To give up 1.44 ppp in the 2nd half with so much on the line was very disappointing and most Big 12 teams would have beat us with that defense.
it wasn't Will's day. I didn't feel his D was  poor but the 0-6 and 4TOs were costly and the 8 assts  aren't enough to balance out his bad offensive day

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Re: Drew-dful; BU ADV
« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2014, 10:39:39 PM »
He had some bad turnovers, but 8 assists and 3 steals. However, this team can't afford for Will to shoot 6 threes and not make one.

At the end of the day, no one could guard Cherry and Jefferson made plays. To give up 1.44 ppp in the 2nd half with so much on the line was very disappointing and most Big 12 teams would have beat us with that defense.

I don't care about the turnovers, as you mentioned he moved the ball well, but they were able to pretty much play a matchup zone because we had no one who could get the ball to the middle of the floor, not enough size to finish at the rim on the rare occasion we did find the middle, and no one to make them pay deep when we skipped the ball or reversed the court. Mitch and Reid lamented about why Marcus waited so long to shoot from deep, it was because within the framework of the offense those were terrible shots but when he had to force them it was the best thing we had.

Jefferson is an absolute nightmare for us, Shane, Nino, nor Wes can handle him. The only aay to slow him down is to play DJamer and Gip together but they would both foul out in like 6 minutes. When Austin isn't asserting himself and floating around the arc you can match up our misplaced 3s on him but he was around the rim quite a bit today too. When they do that they are trouble for everyone in the conference because only KU can match their size. When they play, which is rare I think Jefferson/Gathers/Austin are a better trio than Black/Ellis/Embiid.