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tournament expansion groupthink
« on: April 02, 2010, 09:25:22 AM »
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Re: tournament expansion groupthink
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2010, 09:27:08 AM »
More post season basketball.  Plus, if they're going to do it, may as well do it now for the only season in prolly forever that we have a chance at getting a first round bye :dunno:

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Re: tournament expansion groupthink
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2010, 09:29:37 AM »
More post season basketball.  Plus, if they're going to do it, may as well do it now for the only season in prolly forever that we have a chance at getting a first round bye :dunno:

The best argument against it is "IT'S ALREADY PERFECT!"

Which really isn't a good reason.

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Re: tournament expansion groupthink
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2010, 09:30:56 AM »
I'd love to be in the offices during some tough discussions.

Coach:  But I made the NCAA tourney 3 years in a row.

AD:  The entire conference made the F'ing NCAA tourney 3 years in a row.


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Re: tournament expansion groupthink
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2010, 09:38:01 AM »
I don't know a lot about the expansion stuff (not a big deal either way to me) but I bet the NIT people are shaking their fists in anger over this.

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Re: tournament expansion groupthink
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2010, 09:45:59 AM »
I don't know a lot about the expansion stuff (not a big deal either way to me) but I bet the NIT people are shaking their fists in anger over this.

NCAA owns the NIT.  :dunno:

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Re: tournament expansion groupthink
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2010, 09:47:52 AM »
I don't know a lot about the expansion stuff (not a big deal either way to me) but I bet the NIT people are shaking their fists in anger over this.

NCAA owns the NIT.  :dunno:

Hmmmm, I change my comment to say CBI/CIT then :guyturningandrunningaway:

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Re: tournament expansion groupthink
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2010, 11:19:19 AM »
the round of 96 should have better games than the current round of 64 leading to better matchups in the '2nd round'.   looking forward to more madness resulting from those better matches and even some #1s to go down in the their first game. 

could UNC have played a #1 seed in the round of 64 this year if there were 96 teams?  would have been awesome.

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Re: tournament expansion groupthink
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2010, 11:19:49 AM »
I think it'll be just fine.  Same story lines that we have now, except that the underdogs come from BCS conferences.  Really any of the arguments against it are the same ones the BCS people are using to defend their system.  So there's really a lot of irony in this discussion.
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Re: tournament expansion groupthink
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2010, 11:26:57 AM »
You know somewhere Doc's fistpumping his ass off at the thought of the tournament getting bigger.

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Re: tournament expansion groupthink
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2010, 11:35:43 AM »
You suppose Nebraska could finally win a NCAA tournament game?

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Re: tournament expansion groupthink
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2010, 01:10:45 PM »
the round of 96 should have better games than the current round of 64 leading to better matchups in the '2nd round'.   looking forward to more madness resulting from those better matches and even some #1s to go down in the their first game. 

could UNC have played a #1 seed in the round of 64 this year if there were 96 teams?  would have been awesome.

Excellent point.  I liked it when haters did mock brackets, and were like, "UCONN AND UNC WOULD BE 15 AND 16 SEEDS.  WHO WOULD WANT TO SEE A GAME LIKE THAT?@?!???"

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Re: tournament expansion groupthink
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2010, 01:14:58 PM »
What the eff is Lunardi gonna do? Off himself?

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« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2010, 01:32:33 PM »
If Frank is for it....I'm for it.
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Re: tournament expansion groupthink
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2010, 02:00:49 PM »
More post season basketball.  Plus, if they're going to do it, may as well do it now for the only season in prolly forever that we have a chance at getting a first round bye :dunno:

Let's pretend this year's tournament had been expanded to 96 teams. Instead of playing North Texas in the round of 64, we would have played the winner of the game between the 15 and the 18 seeds. These would probably be good teams from power conferences, and much tougher to beat than North Texas.

That said, I still prefer this in principle. As it is now, the matchups between the top four and bottom four seeds in each region are usually pretty boring because the 13-16 seeds usually get destroyed.

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Re: tournament expansion groupthink
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2010, 02:11:53 PM »
"waters down the regular season"
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Re: tournament expansion groupthink
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2010, 02:19:24 PM »
the round of 96 should have better games than the current round of 64 leading to better matchups in the '2nd round'.   looking forward to more madness resulting from those better matches and even some #1s to go down in the their first game. 

Totally agree. Again pretending this year's tournament was 96 teams, we might have had a decent game between 9-seed Louisville and 24-seed Arkansas-Pine Bluff (yes, they'd probably get bumped all the way down to 24) in the round of 96, instead of an inevitable Duke blowout over A-PB like we actually got. More interesting, better chance of an upset. But most of the low seeds would still get weeded out in the round of 96, making the round of 64 more competitive and worth watching.

Expanding the tournament wouldn't water down the regular season, as many insist. What does water down the tournament is giving automatic bids to weak teams from terrible conferences.

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Re: tournament expansion groupthink
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2010, 02:29:47 PM »
"waters down the regular season"

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Re: tournament expansion groupthink
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2010, 03:40:30 PM »
You suppose Nebraska could finally win a NCAA tournament game?

Would a win over a #21 seed actually count?

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Re: tournament expansion groupthink
« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2010, 03:42:03 PM »
You suppose Nebraska could finally win a NCAA tournament game?

Would a win over a #21 seed actually count?

They would most likely be the 21 seed (please note they have a ways to go before even being a 21 seed)

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« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2010, 03:55:06 PM »
i don't think it's the best answer to the problem.  the drunk coach from west virginia had a better solution, which was eliminate about half the D1 teams, which would result in (a) more power conference teams going to the tourney (which is really the "complaint") and (b) make the regular season more enjoyable/better because you'd have a limited pool of teams to play. 


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Re: tournament expansion groupthink
« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2010, 07:01:17 PM »
who cares? so there's a bunch of play in games.

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Re: tournament expansion groupthink
« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2010, 09:44:28 PM »
This is all about SLTH's looking to extend their $Million careers by a couple of years.  The Big 12 would have eliminated 2-3 teams out of 12 during a 16 game regular season.  What a complete crock of crap.  It's also about University Presidents wanting to not have to fire guys as often, and hoping to save some money that way. 

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« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2010, 11:50:06 AM »
This is all about SLTH's looking to extend their $Million careers by a couple of years.  The Big 12 would have eliminated 2-3 teams out of 12 during a 16 game regular season.  What a complete crock of crap.  It's also about University Presidents wanting to not have to fire guys as often, and hoping to save some money that way. 

Doesn't this help us?  I prefer having McNeck and Doc to kick around for another couple of years (known commodity thing) rather than take our chances that ISU or Nebrasketball actually makes a decent hire.
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