is self the meanest/weirdest coach in the big12 now?

[Spracne]

Yeah, but that's Travis Ford's everyday, non-angry face.

[justTHEtip]

This is some real life scary facts you guys are throwing down. I worry about the players. They're only kids for Christ's sake.

[gatoveintisiet]

The other night during the game Holly said that during a timeout Bill made threats to Andy
If he didn't win the game for KU  .  Fwiw I have not seen Andy since Monday.

[Pete]

I don't know how Frank Martin acted in every day life and in practice, but every KU fan I met seemed to suggest that Frank was like that all the time, and I suspect that their belief was based on observing Frank during games.

I think KU fans generally follow basketball more closely than me.  I will defer to their knowledge of the game.

As a result, I choose to similarly believe that Bill Self conducts himself in every day life as he conducts himself during games.

[ben ji]

I don't know how Frank Martin acted in every day life and in practice, but every KU fan I met seemed to suggest that Frank was like that all the time, and I suspect that their belief was based on observing Frank during games.

I think KU fans generally follow basketball more closely than me.  I will defer to their knowledge of the game.

As a result, I choose to similarly believe that Bill Self conducts himself in every day life as he conducts himself during games.

We now have a full grasp of what a mean and terrible person frank was(sprads), looks like they were right  .

[Dr Rick Daris]

i think what you're witnessing is a man whose life is spiraling out of control.  when he came to the big 12, he was a much different person.  he was cordial and seemed very outgoing, a nice person to be around.  now we hear stories of him hanging with co-eds and drinking on mass street.

he wears those years he's spent in lawrence like a putrid rotting fungus.  it's really a sad example of the pressure of high major division 1 athletics and what it can do to a person.  #disgusting #sad

except for the fact that they aren't just watercooler stories but actually published ones by people like former kc star columnist hearne christopher.

http://www.lawrenceconfidential.com/the-one-that-got-away-is-ku-basketball-coach-bill-selfs-marriage-on-the-rocks/

[CNS]

Bill has the weight of their bed bug infested world on his shoulders.  I mean, what happens if he doesn't win the conf one year?   

[DQ12]

It used to be fun for him.  I really don't think the game is fun for him anymore. 

[CNS]

Guys, I wouldn't be surprised if the school has damning evidence against him related to the ticket scandal and has let him know in plain terms that he either wins or goes to federal prison for a handful of years. 

That has to be on the absolute top of his mind every game, every practice, every meeting with some kid who thinks he should leave after one year.

Desperate.

[_33]

Didn't he smash a scorers table to bits in a fit of rage last year?  I can't ever remember any coach destroying property during a game because he couldn't control his anger.

[Pete]

i think what you're witnessing is a man whose life is spiraling out of control.  when he came to the big 12, he was a much different person.  he was cordial and seemed very outgoing, a nice person to be around.  now we hear stories of him hanging with co-eds and drinking on mass street.

he wears those years he's spent in lawrence like a putrid rotting fungus.  it's really a sad example of the pressure of high major division 1 athletics and what it can do to a person.  #disgusting #sad

except for the fact that they aren't just watercooler stories but actually published ones by people like former kc star columnist hearne christopher.

http://www.lawrenceconfidential.com/the-one-that-got-away-is-ku-basketball-coach-bill-selfs-marriage-on-the-rocks/

Anybody who makes well into seven figures, wears a rug that good and gets botox treatments is probably a safe bet to be just about as human as the next lottery-winner. Not to mention prone to being susceptible to the temptations that come with that kind of fame, power and money.

That does NOT sound like a man who is happy with his life.

[ChiComCat]

I seriously worry for his players/family - the games against them/being mean is fun and all but these are people's lives.  People deserve to be treated with respect.

[Dr Rick Daris]

is there a website that shows the number of technicals each big12 coach has received over the past five years or so? that is at least a good measuring stick to see if we are on the right track.

[Benja]

I hope he checks his blood pressure and stuff a lot. Yelling is like, super bad for you when you get older.

[pissclams]

i kind of hate to think this but do you guys think bill self is on heroin?

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

just sad he gets so mad and angry and is cursing that his only relief is a big slimy booger.

[sonofdaxjones]

I've mentioned in this venue before my personal observations of Self when he first arrived at ku.   In his first year or two as I recall, ku was in some very tight early season games, again, the type of games that the previous coach would have won by 20.    The look of angst, anger, concern, worry, and nerves on Bill Self's face was quite telling.    Most won't remember, but there were ku fans openly questioning Self.   

Look at the pressure Self has today.   ku pays him a lot of money, the football program is a dumpster fire, the financial welfare of the athletic department rides on his shoulders.   He's done a lot, but ku T-Shirt nation and the entire athletic department need him to sustain the highest levels at all times.   

How much more can he take?  I worry for those kids. 

[Dr Rick Daris]

wow. a ku grad and kc star writer absolutely rips into the mess that bill self has become.


"bill self's crybaby antics of late are getting embarrassing"
"the latest incident in which he embarrassed himself and the school"
"there's a big gulf between being classy and being a jerk. bill self hopped way over that line."

http://voices.kansascity.com/entries/bill-selfs-cry-baby-act-wears-thin/

[mocat]

Yael T. Abouhalkah is a confirmed moron tho

[Benja]

I think he let himself get beat by oscar weber just to see if he could feel something again.

[Spracne]

Yael T. Abouhalkah is a confirmed mormon tho

Yael sounds more like a Jewish name, but what the yael do I know?

[Dr Rick Daris]

Yael T. Abouhalkah is a confirmed moron tho

well i don't know anything about the individual so i'll just have to take your word for it and the article with a grain of salt. however, i do find it damning that a former graduate and current media member is willing to go on record about how absolutely disgusting they find self actions to be and how poorly they reflect on the school.

[Trogdor]

One might suppose his anger is derived from the fact that he realizes his program is slowly faltering and he feels the need to try to step it up.

I feel bad for the guy

[Spracne]

Yael T. Abouhalkah is a confirmed moron tho

well i don't know anything about the individual so i'll just have to take your word for it and the article with a grain of salt. however, i do find it damning that a former graduate and current media member is willing to go on record about how absolutely disgusting they find self actions to be and how poorly they reflect on the school.

He's been an editorial writer since before I was born, which means his job is to bitch about anything and everything on a daily basis. 

[Emo EMAW]

Yael T. Abouhalkah is a confirmed moron tho

well i don't know anything about the individual so i'll just have to take your word for it and the article with a grain of salt. however, i do find it damning that a former graduate and current media member is willing to go on record about how absolutely disgusting they find self actions to be and how poorly they reflect on the school.

He's been an editorial writer since before I was born, which means his job is to bitch about anything and everything on a daily basis.

He's losing his chuztpah, IMO.