Author Topic: Stan Weber Recap (810 Radio border patrol) (Read 6020 times)

steve dave · « **on:** February 14, 2014, 08:21:34 AM »

-Start with Foster and oscar Weber's recruiting. How has it been watching Foster develop? Have enjoyed watching him develop under Weber. From the very first practice, he's always looking to shoot. Had a motor to score. He's always the first to shoot in a scrimmage, practice, game, whatever the case. Weber has had to coach him up to score in the system and to round out the rest of his game.

-Jevon? Why so limited lately? Problem is he was just playing on energy. Nothing else. Can't run on energy alone at this level. Knows probably 40% of system. Just hit that wall (sorry pissclams).

-Monday, for example, that pick and roll that worked so well is probably the 5th option within the motion offense......there's no way JT knows how to get that far withing the offense.

-Baylor twice down the stretch. Have talent. How do they match up? Very well. Look at what Baylor does extremely well....the three ball. Against KU for example, hit three ball and stayed in game until KU locked it down. K-state one of best in nation defending the three.....close out extremely well. That said, Baylor has the athleticism and sense of urgency that is scary. Plus, K-State has not won on the road.....but has played very close against some very good home teams.

-If K-State takes their recent performance on the road.....K-State will be fine. If K-State truly does struggle on the road, will be in trouble.

AppleJack · « **Reply #1 on:** February 14, 2014, 08:30:23 AM »

thanks as always, steve

TownieCat · « **Reply #2 on:** February 14, 2014, 08:39:59 AM »

Pretty good points about Jevon. I'm sure once coaches were able to watch a few games of him on tape they were able to take away everything he is able to do at this point.

pissclams · « **Reply #3 on:** February 14, 2014, 08:43:35 AM »

Quote from: steve dave on February 14, 2014, 08:21:34 AM

Look at what Baylor does extremely well....the three ball.

this is more than a recap, it's a recap in 3D

mocat · « **Reply #4 on:** February 14, 2014, 08:56:25 AM »

Quote from: steve dave on February 14, 2014, 08:21:34 AM

K-state one of best in nation defending the three.....close out extremely well.

do people just say this after they look at our numbers and assume this must be the case? i don't feel like we do this exceptionally well

Belvis Noland · « **Reply #5 on:** February 14, 2014, 08:58:40 AM »

Quote from: mocat on February 14, 2014, 08:56:25 AM

Quote from: steve dave on February 14, 2014, 08:21:34 AM
K-state one of best in nation defending the three.....close out extremely well.

do people just say this after they look at our numbers and assume this must be the case? i don't feel like we do this exceptionally well

I feel like they close out well. They pass my eye test.

steve dave · « **Reply #6 on:** February 14, 2014, 09:00:47 AM »

I don't even know what closing out is

Emo EMAW · « **Reply #7 on:** February 14, 2014, 09:07:06 AM »

Quote from: mocat on February 14, 2014, 08:56:25 AM

Quote from: steve dave on February 14, 2014, 08:21:34 AM
K-state one of best in nation defending the three.....close out extremely well.

do people just say this after they look at our numbers and assume this must be the case? i don't feel like we do this exceptionally well

We do a good job of pressuring all passes. They catch and we're right there. Also it's nice to have longer guards for the kick outs.

TownieCat · « **Reply #8 on:** February 14, 2014, 09:33:31 AM »

Quote from: Emo EMAW on February 14, 2014, 09:07:06 AM

Quote from: mocat on February 14, 2014, 08:56:25 AM
Quote from: steve dave on February 14, 2014, 08:21:34 AM
K-state one of best in nation defending the three.....close out extremely well.

do people just say this after they look at our numbers and assume this must be the case? i don't feel like we do this exceptionally well

We do a good job of pressuring all passes. They catch and we're right there. Also it's nice to have longer guards for the kick outs.

We switch a lot too. That helps as long as everyone else rotates, which we are also pretty good at.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #9 on:** February 14, 2014, 10:13:42 AM »

Perimeter pressure is a huge key to oscar's defense. The pressure and switches on the perimeter help with slowing down shooters, but more importantly they help our interior defense because teams have a hard time entering the ball into the paint. This is one of the main things that allows us to play the double swing smaller line-up and get away with it defensively. Hopefully we'll continue to pick up forcing TOs because that is a big part of oscar's system, but we've been a bit sporatic at that this season.

hatingfrancisco · « **Reply #10 on:** February 14, 2014, 10:16:41 AM »

Quote from: TownieCat on February 14, 2014, 09:33:31 AM

We switch a lot too. That helps as long as everyone else rotates, which we are also pretty good at.

Great post. I've been impressed with how quickly we get out on shooters, especially when the ball goes quickly around the arc.

michigancat · « **Reply #11 on:** February 14, 2014, 10:20:04 AM »

Quote from: steve dave on February 14, 2014, 08:21:34 AM

-If K-State takes their recent performance on the road.....K-State will be fine. If K-State truly does struggle on the road, will be in trouble.

money quote

slobber · « **Reply #12 on:** February 14, 2014, 10:28:28 AM »

I feel like our motion offense has the d moving alot and it slows down the opposition when they are on offense. They don't have as much pep. Does anyone else think this?

Pete · « **Reply #13 on:** February 14, 2014, 10:37:33 AM »

It's smokey as hell in here, because so many people are flooring their HBBIQ machines.

Great work everyone!

TownieCat · « **Reply #14 on:** February 14, 2014, 10:39:54 AM »

Quote from: dobber on February 14, 2014, 10:28:28 AM

I feel like our motion offense has the d moving alot and it slows down the opposition when they are on offense. They don't have as much pep. Does anyone else think this?

This too. If a guy like Heslip has to chase someone like Sprads around for 25-30 seconds on D, fatigue can set in on O.

pissclams · « **Reply #15 on:** February 14, 2014, 10:59:42 AM »

Quote from: michigancat on February 14, 2014, 10:20:04 AM

Quote from: steve dave on February 14, 2014, 08:21:34 AM
-If K-State takes their recent performance on the road.....K-State will be fine. If K-State truly does struggle on the road, will be in trouble.

money quote

it was so finely crafted i didn't even catch it.

michigancat · « **Reply #16 on:** February 14, 2014, 11:02:56 AM »

On a more serious note, why the eff is pick and roll our fifth option in the offense?

pissclams · « **Reply #17 on:** February 14, 2014, 11:14:42 AM »

Quote from: michigancat on February 14, 2014, 11:02:56 AM

On a more serious note, why the eff is pick and roll our fifth option in the offense?

who's rolling?

Pete · « **Reply #18 on:** February 14, 2014, 11:18:37 AM »

Quote from: pissclams on February 14, 2014, 11:17:48 AM

it's true, pete. ku fans know a crap ton more about hoops than cat fans do so science

I moved my post, got all tapatalked up

Clevey 2 Times · « **Reply #19 on:** February 14, 2014, 11:22:17 AM »

Our defensive statistics wildly overrate what is a good, not great, defensive squad.

I miss Jevon. Hit the books man!

michigancat · « **Reply #20 on:** February 14, 2014, 11:22:22 AM »

Quote from: pissclams on February 14, 2014, 11:14:42 AM

Quote from: michigancat on February 14, 2014, 11:02:56 AM
On a more serious note, why the eff is pick and roll our fifth option in the offense?

who's rolling?

the screener

kso_FAN · « **Reply #21 on:** February 14, 2014, 11:29:22 AM »

Quote from: Cleveland on February 14, 2014, 11:22:17 AM

Our defensive statistics wildly overrate what is a good, not great, defensive squad.

How do the statistics wildly overrate our defense?

Quote from: michigancat on February 14, 2014, 11:02:56 AM

On a more serious note, why the eff is pick and roll our fifth option in the offense?

Stan did say "is probably" and the truth is Stan has no idea what option the pick and roll is on the offense. Also, the pick and roll is something oscar didn't use much last year, so I'm sure its still a work in progress at this point as the guys get it figured out (DJamer and Will were great at it and I hope we see it more).

michigancat · « **Reply #22 on:** February 14, 2014, 11:31:58 AM »

I know, just making conversation.

michigancat · « **Reply #23 on:** February 14, 2014, 11:32:47 AM »

But it is kind of hilarious to think Jevon isn't playing because he hasn't figured out the pick and roll yet.

CNS · « **Reply #24 on:** February 14, 2014, 11:43:48 AM »

Quote from: michigancat on February 14, 2014, 11:32:47 AM

But it is kind of hilarious to think Jevon isn't playing because he hasn't figured out the pick and roll yet.

Not exactly what Stan said. He said that Jevon is behind on knowledge and implementation of the system because of his time not practicing. Said that this is the time when teams are getting very good at running their systems and scouting others. Stan said that Texas, for example, knew what to do against 5 different options that our offense can run through but Jevon doesn't know anything past the first or second options because he hasn't caught up on it yet.

Seems dumb to me. I mean, he basically sounded like he was saying we are writing off Jevon this year because there isn't any way he could catch up to the level of offensive understanding the rest of the team has without him.