Marcus Smart's Fallout

[ChiComCat]

Getting violent with a fan should have much more than a 1 game suspension mir, I don't know how you can think that.

(I would never let the fan back in either)

We don't have the same standard of what constitutes violence. Also even if the guy said "go back to Africa" I wouldn't givehim a llifetime ban. I refuse to allow ESPN's overreaction cloud my good sense.

The ESPN/sportswriter high horse fallout is much worse than what the idiot fan or Smart did on the floor last night.

i have heard zero from espn on this.  i saw it because espn cut into sports center live with the game while at the bar.

and mir, how would you react if a fan come onto the floor a shoved a player?  that fan would be arrested immediately and charged with trespassing and possibly some sort of assault. there is an unspoken agreement in sports that the players have the court/field and the fans have the stands.  what smart did was extremely dangerous for him and his team.  there's a good chance that if this didn't happen at the most/second most apathetic fan base in the big 12 that something terrible might have happened.

Smart was in the stands because of a play he made on the court.  Saying he is wrong because he was in the stands is not paying attention to that.

[WillieWatanabe]

Just saw this...

Oklahoma State has set a news conference for 5 pm CT today, spokesman told ESPN. Marcus Smart, Travis Ford, AD Mike Holder will all speak.
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[star seed 7]

Getting violent with a fan should have much more than a 1 game suspension mir, I don't know how you can think that.

(I would never let the fan back in either)

We don't have the same standard of what constitutes violence. Also even if the guy said "go back to Africa" I wouldn't givehim a llifetime ban. I refuse to allow ESPN's overreaction cloud my good sense.

The ESPN/sportswriter high horse fallout is much worse than what the idiot fan or Smart did on the floor last night.

i have heard zero from espn on this.  i saw it because espn cut into sports center live with the game while at the bar.

and mir, how would you react if a fan come onto the floor a shoved a player?  that fan would be arrested immediately and charged with trespassing and possibly some sort of assault. there is an unspoken agreement in sports that the players have the court/field and the fans have the stands.  what smart did was extremely dangerous for him and his team.  there's a good chance that if this didn't happen at the most/second most apathetic fan base in the big 12 that something terrible might have happened.

Smart was in the stands because of a play he made on the court.  Saying he is wrong because he was in the stands is not paying attention to that.

well that's just being thick.  obviously no one has a problem when a player goes into the stands for a loose ball or after making a play.  the fact that he got up and walked further into the stands is the point here.  he didn't land on that dudes lap, he was 3 or 4 steps from him.

[Benja]

also, in the gif i saw, it looks like the guys is backing down or saying sorry. I haven't seen the full one yet.

I'm pretty sure everyone noticed that. It's kind of hilarious to see what that dumbasses reaction is when something he probably had never considered happening (the 19 year old he's antagonizing possibly beating his ass in front of terrible hag wife), and how quickly he goes from idiot bigot to hands up saying he's sorry. I can almost promise you he's not a good person.

[Benja]

If he had continued to yell in smarts face then at least you could respect that he had some conviction to his dumbassery

[Dugout DickStone]

It's not like Orr flicked a red hot penny at him

[Pete]

Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN
Oklahoma State news conference slated for 5 pm CT, and sources told ESPN that Big 12 expected to make announcement prior to presser.

[AbeFroman]

Smart should have been suspended for flopping long ago(in the NBA they fine you, can't fine a college player). If this is what finally gets him, so be it.

[ChiComCat]

If fans have the right to do whatever they want to a player in the stands, they shouldn't put the stands so close to the court where someone ends up there a couple times a game.  Fans are there to watch the players.  The player ended up in the stands after making a basketball play and some assholes took advantage and started heckling him.  At that point, Smart reacted.

In your analogy, a fan comes on the court to start crap.  A more accurate analogy would be a fan falling on the court from the stands and Smart running up and heckling him.

[Phil Titola]

If allegations coming out of Lubbock are true, perhaps Oklahoma State star Marcus Smart can’t be blamed for shoving Texas Tech fan Jeff Orr at the end of Saturday’s game.

Toward the end of the Red Raiders’ win, Orr is rumored to have screamed at Smart, “Go back to Africa,” which prompted Smart’s shove and technical foul.


Read more at http://www.lostlettermen.com/article/texas-tech-fan-to-smart-go-back-to-africa#A0vk33dPUWs1duxe.99

The lady on the left is the worst ever, I hope she gets gangrene or frostbite and her hands fall off. Get out of his face, hag. I bet her breath smelled like coffee and Virginia Slims.

Looks like she's tells him to "eat crap." Not to mention the other hag wagging her finger in Smart's face. If Smart's push results in those three being banned from any future tech or big 12 event, then the suspension is worth it. It's pretty clear all three were trying to provoke him, but they're dumb enough to assume he wasn't going to react.

Smart put himself in that position after he got up...should have just ran back on the court...nope, fat tuck said something he didn't like so he decided to step up to the fans instead....which depending on what was said, was justified.

If we are banning fans for saying things, the dudes I have heard in the front row of the student section would be gone months ago.

[MakeItRain]

Getting violent with a fan should have much more than a 1 game suspension mir, I don't know how you can think that.

(I would never let the fan back in either)

We don't have the same standard of what constitutes violence. Also even if the guy said "go back to Africa" I wouldn't givehim a llifetime ban. I refuse to allow ESPN's overreaction cloud my good sense.

The ESPN/sportswriter high horse fallout is much worse than what the idiot fan or Smart did on the floor last night.

i have heard zero from espn on this.  i saw it because espn cut into sports center live with the game while at the bar.

and mir, how would you react if a fan come onto the floor a shoved a player?  that fan would be arrested immediately and charged with trespassing and possibly some sort of assault. there is an unspoken agreement in sports that the players have the court/field and the fans have the stands.  what smart did was extremely dangerous for him and his team.  there's a good chance that if this didn't happen at the most/second most apathetic fan base in the big 12 that something terrible might have happened.

Your example isn't precise because Smart wasn't trespassing, a fan in your case would be trespassing and should be arrested. Your usage of the phrase extremely dangerous is amazingly dramatic and disingenuous. He shoved a dude, thats all it is & making more of it is being dramatic for the sake of being dramatic. Hasn't every single person over the age of 10 shoved someone and been shoved without further escalation. Do you live in a bubble? Also there was no threat of anything else happening, in this thread alone there were two other documented similar incidences that have happened in the Big 12. You overdramatizing what Smart did is no different than people insisting Orr called Smart a n-word. 

[Phil Titola]

If fans have the right to do whatever they want to a player in the stands, they shouldn't put the stands so close to the court where someone ends up there a couple times a game.  Fans are there to watch the players.  The player ended up in the stands after making a basketball play and some assholes took advantage and started heckling him.  At that point, Smart reacted.

In your analogy, a fan comes on the court to start crap.  A more accurate analogy would be a fan falling on the court from the stands and Smart running up and heckling him.

Nobody would be up in arms if Smart woofed back at him...it was kind of the push part after getting up and stepping closer to the fans that has peeps all 

[MakeItRain]

Just saw this...

Oklahoma State has set a news conference for 5 pm CT today, spokesman told ESPN. Marcus Smart, Travis Ford, AD Mike Holder will all speak.
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QUIT PUSHING THIS STORY ESPN.

Last night Sportscenter did 19 minutes of a 44 minute broadcast on Marcus Smart including running the same Andy Katz segment twice.

[WillieWatanabe]

Just saw this...

Oklahoma State has set a news conference for 5 pm CT today, spokesman told ESPN. Marcus Smart, Travis Ford, AD Mike Holder will all speak.
193 retweets
Sent 10m ago
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QUIT PUSHING THIS STORY ESPN.

Last night Sportscenter did 19 minutes of a 44 minute broadcast on Marcus Smart including running the same Andy Katz segment twice.

and? It was easily the most talked about thing among sports fans.

[star seed 7]

when did i say fans can do whatever they want?  did me saying that i would ban that dude for life somehow get mixed around to you that i think he's at zero fault?  and this whole strawman of players going into the stands on basketball plays is tiring.  this incident wasn't because of a basketball play.  do you think if smart had stopped himself against the padded goal he wouldn't have heard whatever he reacted to?  he just got dunked on to (most likely) seal a loss.  he reacted because he was frustrated and he's a bit of a dramatic, not because he was 2 feet off the court.

the amount of people here who think words are an excuse for violence is astounding.

[star seed 7]

Getting violent with a fan should have much more than a 1 game suspension mir, I don't know how you can think that.

(I would never let the fan back in either)

We don't have the same standard of what constitutes violence. Also even if the guy said "go back to Africa" I wouldn't givehim a llifetime ban. I refuse to allow ESPN's overreaction cloud my good sense.

The ESPN/sportswriter high horse fallout is much worse than what the idiot fan or Smart did on the floor last night.

i have heard zero from espn on this.  i saw it because espn cut into sports center live with the game while at the bar.

and mir, how would you react if a fan come onto the floor a shoved a player?  that fan would be arrested immediately and charged with trespassing and possibly some sort of assault. there is an unspoken agreement in sports that the players have the court/field and the fans have the stands.  what smart did was extremely dangerous for him and his team.  there's a good chance that if this didn't happen at the most/second most apathetic fan base in the big 12 that something terrible might have happened.

Your example isn't precise because Smart wasn't trespassing, a fan in your case would be trespassing and should be arrested. Your usage of the phrase extremely dangerous is amazingly dramatic and disingenuous. He shoved a dude, thats all it is & making more of it is being dramatic for the sake of being dramatic. Hasn't every single person over the age of 10 shoved someone and been shoved without further escalation. Do you live in a bubble? Also there was no threat of anything else happening, in this thread alone there were two other documented similar incidences that have happened in the Big 12. You overdramatizing what Smart did is no different than people insisting Orr called Smart a n-word.

you're right, everyone in the world has shoved someone when outnumbered by several thousand.

[MakeItRain]

If allegations coming out of Lubbock are true, perhaps Oklahoma State star Marcus Smart can’t be blamed for shoving Texas Tech fan Jeff Orr at the end of Saturday’s game.

Toward the end of the Red Raiders’ win, Orr is rumored to have screamed at Smart, “Go back to Africa,” which prompted Smart’s shove and technical foul.


Read more at http://www.lostlettermen.com/article/texas-tech-fan-to-smart-go-back-to-africa#A0vk33dPUWs1duxe.99

The lady on the left is the worst ever, I hope she gets gangrene or frostbite and her hands fall off. Get out of his face, hag. I bet her breath smelled like coffee and Virginia Slims.

Looks like she's tells him to "eat crap." Not to mention the other hag wagging her finger in Smart's face. If Smart's push results in those three being banned from any future tech or big 12 event, then the suspension is worth it. It's pretty clear all three were trying to provoke him, but they're dumb enough to assume he wasn't going to react.

Smart put himself in that position after he got up...should have just ran back on the court...nope, fat tuck said something he didn't like so he decided to step up to the fans instead....which depending on what was said, was justified.

If we are banning fans for saying things, the dudes I have heard in the front row of the student section would be gone months ago.

No one should be yelling at athletes like they are animals in cages, you can't really tell people what they can and can't say but it would be nice if people could be clever without being crass.

[Benja]

No one should be yelling at athletes like they are animals in cages

Exactly. It's pathetic.

[sys]

He's a point guard who can't shoot, doesn't have excellent handle, nor hasn't shown himself adept at setting up his teammates. His perceived draft stock is one of life's great mysteries.

i agree.  people are going to blame his eventual draft position on this incident (and returning for a second year in general).  he'll probably end up going about where he should.  he's just not that good.

[sunny_cat]

No one should be yelling at athletes like they are animals in cages

Exactly. It's pathetic.

Heaven forbid, if a 19 year old emotional, competitive kid reacts badly.

[Phil Titola]

If allegations coming out of Lubbock are true, perhaps Oklahoma State star Marcus Smart can’t be blamed for shoving Texas Tech fan Jeff Orr at the end of Saturday’s game.

Toward the end of the Red Raiders’ win, Orr is rumored to have screamed at Smart, “Go back to Africa,” which prompted Smart’s shove and technical foul.


Read more at http://www.lostlettermen.com/article/texas-tech-fan-to-smart-go-back-to-africa#A0vk33dPUWs1duxe.99

The lady on the left is the worst ever, I hope she gets gangrene or frostbite and her hands fall off. Get out of his face, hag. I bet her breath smelled like coffee and Virginia Slims.

Looks like she's tells him to "eat crap." Not to mention the other hag wagging her finger in Smart's face. If Smart's push results in those three being banned from any future tech or big 12 event, then the suspension is worth it. It's pretty clear all three were trying to provoke him, but they're dumb enough to assume he wasn't going to react.

Smart put himself in that position after he got up...should have just ran back on the court...nope, fat tuck said something he didn't like so he decided to step up to the fans instead....which depending on what was said, was justified.

If we are banning fans for saying things, the dudes I have heard in the front row of the student section would be gone months ago.

No one should be yelling at athletes like they are animals in cages, you can't really tell people what they can and can't say but it would be nice if people could be clever without being crass.

Totally agree.  I doubt anything those 3 said was clever.

[Phil Titola]

He's a point guard who can't shoot, doesn't have excellent handle, nor hasn't shown himself adept at setting up his teammates. His perceived draft stock is one of life's great mysteries.

i agree.  people are going to blame his eventual draft position on this incident (and returning for a second year in general).  he'll probably end up going about where he should.  he's just not that good.

Never understood this either...seemed very Sherron Collin'ish...although think he works harder than Sherron ever did.

[michigancat]

I don't think this incident is particularly interesting. It was unfortunate and sad, but good grief that's all it was. Give him a game or two suspension and move on.

[sys]

Wait, did they censor the word "Africa"?


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it's the most hateful thing you can say to someone.

[DeoKat]

I don't think this incident is particularly interesting. It was unfortunate and sad, but good grief that's all it was. Give him a game or two suspension and move on.

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