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Re: SYS's stance 2/7/14
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2014, 03:03:36 PM »
Great thread.

I tried something similar a couple months back but the asshat mods moved it to the pit because they are chickenshit nazis

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Re: SYS's stance 2/7/14
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2014, 03:17:41 PM »
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Re: SYS's stance 2/7/14
« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2014, 01:05:43 PM »
it could be fair to say this next stretch of ball could define oscar's coaching ability. this stretch could squelch the comparisons to frank and finally make provers out of the #BID crowd. that's what i'm most interested in seeing. we saw frank have the ability to continually develop a squad and get better over the year as opposed to regress.

granted this year features more freshman who have hit a wall as opposed to dillardsgate or being forced to sit a game or two or transfer.

i think this stretch and specifically speaking, the Texas and KU games will define this season.

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Re: SYS's stance 2/7/14
« Reply #28 on: February 11, 2014, 01:15:33 PM »
i agree with michigancat's points on the bolded statement.  now we have 576 games of data instead of 574.  nothing has changed in that regard because such a small change in the amount of data available could not possibly impact conclusions.


they were two great (and impactful) games for defining this season, tho
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Re: SYS's stance 2/7/14
« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2014, 01:27:33 PM »
it could be fair to say this next stretch of ball could define oscar's coaching ability.

No, that would not be fair, at all.

his actual coaching ability will be on full display to beat Texas, to compete against Kansas and to beat @Baylor and @OU.

I think 2-2 is about as good as you can hope for those games.  I didn't factor in moral victories, tho.

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Re: SYS's stance 2/7/14
« Reply #30 on: February 11, 2014, 01:35:59 PM »
it could be fair to say this next stretch of ball could define oscar's coaching ability.

No, that would not be fair, at all.

his actual coaching ability will be on full display to beat Texas, to compete against Kansas and to beat @Baylor and @OU.

I think 2-2 is about as good as you can hope for those games.  I didn't factor in moral victories, tho.

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Re: SYS's stance 2/7/14
« Reply #31 on: February 11, 2014, 01:39:30 PM »
it could be fair to say this next stretch of ball could define oscar's coaching ability.

No, that would not be fair, at all.

his actual coaching ability will be on full display to beat Texas, to compete against Kansas and to beat @Baylor and @OU.

I think 2-2 is about as good as you can hope for those games.  I didn't factor in moral victories, tho.

Right in your rough ridin' face take a lap loser!  :ROFL:

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Re: SYS's stance 2/7/14
« Reply #32 on: February 11, 2014, 01:59:04 PM »
i agree with michigancat's points on the bolded statement.  now we have 576 games of data instead of 574.  nothing has changed in that regard because such a small change in the amount of data available could not possibly impact conclusions.


they were two great (and impactful) games for defining this season, tho

i'll admit right now that i used a poor word choice in what i was alluding to. i'm more talking about oscar reshaping and righting his career from where he ended illinois at. he was pretty salty at siu and did very well early at illinois.

the end of his illinois career could be a product of him simply being a bad fit to their culture.
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Re: SYS's stance 2/7/14
« Reply #33 on: February 11, 2014, 02:04:11 PM »
the end of his illinois career could be a product of him simply being a bad fit to their culture.

it have been people overreacting to recency bias.  he's had a good career.
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Re: SYS's stance 2/7/14
« Reply #34 on: February 11, 2014, 03:00:53 PM »
the end of his illinois career could be a product of him simply being a bad fit to their culture.

it have been people overreacting to recency bias.  he's had a good career.

Yes, exactly this.  I've been arguing this since the day he was hired by KSU.
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Re: SYS's stance 2/7/14
« Reply #35 on: February 11, 2014, 03:21:53 PM »
Overreacting to 5 years of a 10-year career is "recency bias"?

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Re: SYS's stance 2/7/14
« Reply #36 on: February 11, 2014, 03:24:51 PM »
Overreacting to 5 years of a 10-year career is "recency bias"?

by definition, if it's overreacting to the most recent five years...


i assume you mean to argue that it wasn't an overreaction.  i think it was, but not a huge one.  he's a coach with both success and failure in his past.  it's not accurate to overemphasize either.
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Re: SYS's stance 2/7/14
« Reply #37 on: February 11, 2014, 03:29:53 PM »
Sometimes when I read sys posts I think of this guy:


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Re: SYS's stance 2/7/14
« Reply #38 on: February 11, 2014, 03:39:08 PM »
Overreacting to 5 years of a 10-year career is "recency bias"?

by definition, if it's overreacting to the most recent five years...


i assume you mean to argue that it wasn't an overreaction.  i think it was, but not a huge one.  he's a coach with both success and failure in his past.  it's not accurate to overemphasize either.

That's a pretty good chunk of his career,  and IMO was the best predictor of his long-term results at Kansas State. This season should modify those expectations up a bit, but not by much.

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Re: SYS's stance 2/7/14
« Reply #39 on: February 22, 2014, 10:02:55 PM »
it could be fair to say this next stretch of ball could define oscar's coaching ability.

No, that would not be fair, at all.

his actual coaching ability will be on full display to beat Texas, to compete against Kansas and to beat @Baylor and @OU.

I think 2-2 is about as good as you can hope for those games.  I didn't factor in moral victories, tho.

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