The Unbearable Lightness of Liberalism

[star seed 7]

fire and polices services on sunday?  if a day of rest is good enough for the lord, it's good enough for fire and police.  if you want protection on the lord's day then get some non-profit donations going on sinners

[8manpick]

between kat kid and seven, daris has started to spawn an army of this type of posters, and I really enjoy it

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

One of the most entertaining things about the libatrds on this board are the crazy-pills comparisons. So far, Sandra Fluke has been compared to Rosa Parks, and public funding for birth control is on the same order of importance as (a) the military, (b) prisons, and (c) fire and police service on the weekends. This is great stuff. Please keep it coming.

[Kat Kid]

One of the most entertaining things about the libatrds on this board are the crazy-pills comparisons. So far, Sandra Fluke has been compared to Rosa Parks, and public funding for birth control is on the same order of importance as (a) the military, (b) prisons, and (c) fire and police service on the weekends. This is great stuff. Please keep it coming.

no that didn't happen.

[star seed 7]

Destroy the Middle Class!! Yah America!

Yes, the middle class is being destroyed because a Georgetown-educated lawyer wants to be a politician.

That wasn't the point.   Liberal Georgetown educated lawyer to be placed on a pedestal, protected, all detractors are to be labeled and attacked by left.    Blue Collar Plumber . . . attacked, ridiculed and scorned by left.

you forgot to point out that no one ridicules the blue collar plumber for being a blue collar plumber, they ridicule the blue collar plumber because he's a gigantic dumbass.  i've personally known a number of blue collar plumbers, and it's 50/50 on if they are gigantic dumbasses or not, so it's perplexing why the GOP hitched their wagon to a gigantic dumbass as their spokesman for the common man when non gigantic dumbass blue collar plumbers are available.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Destroy the Middle Class!! Yah America!

Yes, the middle class is being destroyed because a Georgetown-educated lawyer wants to be a politician.

That wasn't the point.   Liberal Georgetown educated lawyer to be placed on a pedestal, protected, all detractors are to be labeled and attacked by left.    Blue Collar Plumber . . . attacked, ridiculed and scorned by left.

The host of the most listened-to show on radio (i.e. the media) called Sandra Fluke a slut. Who are these people attacking Joe the plumber?

[Institutional Control]

I don't listen to much political talk radio, so I don't know.   Well, I did listen to Geraldo from time-to-time when he was on here.     

Plus, like has been pointed out, if you want to point out dumb . . .  why go to a Jesuit school and then start complaining about birth control?

Of course as we've seen, that kind of response immediately evokes a vitriolic response from the left label makers, who will defend the idiocy of a left (dumb) talking point/talking head to the n'th degree, while hurling insults at anyone who supports the plumber (or people of that ilk who simply ask a question or make a statement to a campaigning politician, not Congress).

Vitriolic? More like alcoholic. #amirite

[star seed 7]

sorry dude, your employer is morally objected to cough medicine, you're just gonna have to get though that bronchitis on your own cause it's not covered with your insurance.

[bubbles4ksu]

sorry dude, your employer is morally objected to cough medicine, you're just gonna have to get though that bronchitis on your own cause it's not covered with your insurance.

But you can take your bronchitis script and $3 over to that drug store across the street and get the medicine you need.

that's it dax, tell them to get their lady drugs somewhere else!

[star seed 7]

boner pills?  right here sir! fully insured, no problem at all. ed is a serious medical condition, and should be treated with medication. enjoy your boners!

birth control pill?  no way, we don't insure that miss. what's that? you have "woman" problems and this pill would help you with that?  it still makes it so you can slut around tho right?  yeah, we can't have that.

[star seed 7]

sorry dude, your employer is morally objected to cough medicine, you're just gonna have to get though that bronchitis on your own cause it's not covered with your insurance.

But you can take your bronchitis script and $3 over to that drug store across the street and get the medicine you need.

but what about prostate cancer treatment that my bitch whore boss won't put in the health plan cause she hates men!!!!!

[Rage Against the McKee]

Shouldn't premiums for insurance that includes birth control be lower than premiums for insurance that doesn't? Pregnancies are pretty expensive.

[Rage Against the McKee]

http://business.time.com/2012/02/14/why-free-birth-control-will-not-hike-the-cost-of-your-insurance/

[star seed 7]

One strawman after another.

Common sense reality says that at least as of right now, all matter of contraception is readily available for free or for next to nothing. 

When the day comes that isn't the case, then you might have a point with some of the idiocy.   But right now, it was just grand standing.

maybe i'm getting mixed up, but wasn't sandra's issue that her "woman problems" made her birth control something like 300 a month without insurance?

oh i forgot, that's just because she is a slut and has tons of sex so she needs MORE birthcontrol.

[Rage Against the McKee]

One strawman after another.

Common sense reality says that at least as of right now, all matter of contraception is readily available for free or for next to nothing. 

When the day comes that isn't the case, then you might have a point with some of the idiocy.   But right now, it was just grand standing.

It wasn't free to her, and how do you define next to nothing? If I were paying an insurance premium at a Jesuit school, and the government were mandating that a medication I use was to be paid for 100%, but the school was trying to get around the mandate so they could make my insurance crappier than the insurance provided to everyone else, with no cost savings on my premium, I would be pissed off, too.

[star seed 7]

well, 300 a month is next to nothing for most people.

[Rage Against the McKee]

well, 300 a month is next to nothing for most people.

Stop vilifying Joe the Plumber, damn it.

[michigancat]

I'm still not sure what Joe the Plumber has to do with anything.

[star seed 7]

well, 300 a month is next to nothing for most people.

Didn't say that.

Common sense reality says that at least as of right now, all matter of contraception is readily available for free or for next to nothing. 

 

[chum1]

How do analogies work?

[Rage Against the McKee]

Hmm, so Fluke claims to have known about Georgetown's policy towards contraception (I don't agree with it BTW) but she made the choice to enroll in and attend Georgetown anyway?   Isn't that kind of like joining the volunteer Army on your own free will, and then going up in front of a committee of anti-military congressional members and complaining about the whole guns and war part of the Army? 

Plus, what specifically was her prescription?  I've tried to figure that out, but it's not anywhere that I've seen.

Georgetown was probably the best school that accepted her, and she is right that it is really none of an institution or employer's business what the people they insure choose to do with that insurance.

I really don't think it is my or anyone else's business what her prescription was for. That is between her and her doctor.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Fascinating, so the entity that provides you your insurance should have no say in how that insurance is managed?

Absolutely not.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Fascinating, so the entity that provides you your insurance should have no say in how that insurance is managed?

Absolutely not.

Okay, good luck with that.

I've had great luck with that so far. I've never had an employer attempt get a single thing uncovered.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Fascinating, so the entity that provides you your insurance should have no say in how that insurance is managed?

Absolutely not.

Okay, good luck with that.

I've had great luck with that so far. I've never had an employer attempt get a single thing uncovered.

Unless you're actually in HR or relevant entity that negotiates the insurance contracts, you probably don't know what was discussed or not discussed in terms of coverage.

True, but covering birth control has no effect on premiums. If the Jesuit church doesn't want their employees/students to use certain prescribed medications, then maybe they should have done a better job converting them to the Jesuit faith so that they would just suffer through their problems the way that God intended.

[Kat Kid]

What is the point being made when people bring up that Sandra Fluke decided to attend law school at Georgetown (a Jesuit institution).

Are institutions supposed to be impossible to change?  Should Georgetown admit only students willing to rubber stamp every position it stakes out?

I don't understand the point.