Peyton Manning

[bones129]

Peyton Manning has had a great career. Will he be back next year? I say YES. And you say?

[scottwildcat]

Peyton Manning has had a great career. Will he be back next year? I say YES. And you say?

yes, but won't be even close to as good as he was this year.

[bones129]

Peyton Manning has had a great career. Will he be back next year? I say YES. And you say?

yes, but won't be even close to as good as he was this year.

Probably true, scott, probably true.

[Cire]

I'm of the opinion that the nfl told them that they were not going to allow and would be looking for pick plays in the game.  I think that will be a major point of emphasis next year.

[j-dub]

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/02/04/pff-all-postseason-team-2008-2013/

so, starting with eli, what other qb's would you rather have start a playoff game/super bowl instead of the all-time losingest post-season qb in history - peyton?

i'll start:

eli:
8-3 overall. 2-0 SB.
rodgers
5-4 overall. 1-0 SB.
brees
6-5 overall. 1-0 vs. peyton. 1-0 SB.
russ wilson
4-1 overall. 1-0 vs. peyton. 1-0 SB.
andrew luck
1-2 overall. 2nd greatest playoff comeback ever.
brady (maybe)
18-8 overall. 2-2 vs peyton in playoffs. but peyton has won the last 2. thus the maybe. also, can't beat eli. 3 SB.
big ben
10-4 overall. 1-0 vs peyton in playoffs. 2-1 SB.
kaep
4-2 overall. his 2 losses were to flacco and russ who peyton can't beat either. but kaep almost beat russ. edge kaep. 0-1 SB.
cam newt
0-1 overall. small sample size. not a confirmed loser like peyton.
rivers
4-5 overall. 2-0 vs peyton.
wacco for flacco
9-4 overall. 1-0 vs. peyton. 1-0 SB.
alex smith
1-2 overall. 108.6 QB rating in playoffs (highest overall). also, 1-0 against brees, who is 1-0 against peyton. alex>peyton on both fronts.
matt ryan
1-4 overall. but beat russ wilson. So matty ice>peyton.
nick foles
1-0 overall. small sample size. not a confirmed loser like peyton.
healthy acl rg3
0-1 overall. small sample size. not a confirmed loser like peyton.
josh mccown
0-0. no sample size. not a confirmed loser like peyton.

[Cartierfor3]

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/02/04/pff-all-postseason-team-2008-2013/

so, starting with eli, what other qb's would you rather have start a playoff game/super bowl instead of the all-time losingest post-season qb in history - peyton?

i'll start:

eli
rodgers
brees
russ wilson
andrew luck
brady (maybe)
big ben
kaep
cam newt
rivers
wacco for flacco
alex smith
matt ryan
nick foles
healthy acl rg3
josh mccown

  he thought he could slip that one by me!

[Cartierfor3]

Its a decent list, but Matt Ryan is a complete playoff loser, and Smith is well, we've been over that. RGIII is kinda insane, so scratch him off.



Also: Brady (maybe)


MAYBE? Maybe take Tom Freaking Brady over Manning? Maybe?

My List I'd start over Manning in a Super Bowl:
Rodgers
Luck
Brees
Wilson
Kaep
Foles
Big Ben
Flacco
Eli
Brady

[Jackstack99EMAW]

Brady and Rodgers maybe, that's it.  Brady was not great this year NUWF3. 

[Cartierfor3]

Brady and Rodgers maybe, that's it.  Brady was not great this year NUWF3.

His 3 best weapons from a year ago:

1. Midget Bronco
2. Injury Prone EMAW who played like 5 games
3. Murderer.


He was 'mazing considering what he lost.

[Jackstack99EMAW]

Brady and Rodgers maybe, that's it.  Brady was not great this year NUWF3.

His 3 best weapons from a year ago:

1. Midget Bronco
2. Injury Prone EMAW who played like 5 games
3. Murderer.


He was 'mazing considering what he lost.

No, his coach was 'mazing NUWF3.  He was pretty inaccurate this year.  He's a great QB, no doubt, but he wasn't even close to Manning this year.  They ran the ball a lot more this yr and in the playoffs, and Belichick is the GOAT.

[j-dub]

Brady and Rodgers maybe, that's it.  Brady was not great this year NUWF3.

have, you, jackstack99, like, ever, umm, watched, an, nfl, football, playoff, or, super, bowl, game, ever, before, in, your, whole, entire, life?

[j-dub]

Brady and Rodgers maybe, that's it.  Brady was not great this year NUWF3.

have, you, jackstack99, like, ever, umm, watched, an, nfl, football, playoff, or, super, bowl, game, ever, before, in, your, whole, entire, life?

i guess you missed the super elite advanced stats article, so i'll copy/paste for you to make it easy and stuff

Quarterback: Eli Manning, 2011 (+20.6)

It had to be something special to beat out the 2010 year of Aaron Rodgers and boy was it. Manning did the unthinkable in overcoming ridiculous amounts of pressure to push his team to the big game where his Giants would win it all.

[Jackstack99EMAW]

Brady and Rodgers maybe, that's it.  Brady was not great this year NUWF3.

have, you, jackstack99, like, ever, umm, watched, an, nfl, football, playoff, or, super, bowl, game, ever, before, in, your, whole, entire, life?

Um, yeah, I, have, and, Brady's, teams, overall, were, like, much, better, and, the, "clutch", narrative, is, stupid.

[Jackstack99EMAW]

Brady and Rodgers maybe, that's it.  Brady was not great this year NUWF3.

have, you, jackstack99, like, ever, umm, watched, an, nfl, football, playoff, or, super, bowl, game, ever, before, in, your, whole, entire, life?

i guess you missed the super elite advanced stats article, so i'll copy/paste for you to make it easy and stuff

Quarterback: Eli Manning, 2011 (+20.6)

It had to be something special to beat out the 2010 year of Aaron Rodgers and boy was it. Manning did the unthinkable in overcoming ridiculous amounts of pressure to push his team to the big game where his Giants would win it all.

Cool, I'm still taking a top 3(at least) QB of all time who has issues in the "clutch" over an average-good QB.

[yoga-like_abana]

I say I don't care. maybe just work full time for snl? hah heh I'm peyton manning I'm a volunteer for snl, get it?! bad person you prob dont

[j-dub]

Brady and Rodgers maybe, that's it.  Brady was not great this year NUWF3.

have, you, jackstack99, like, ever, umm, watched, an, nfl, football, playoff, or, super, bowl, game, ever, before, in, your, whole, entire, life?

i guess you missed the super elite advanced stats article, so i'll copy/paste for you to make it easy and stuff

Quarterback: Eli Manning, 2011 (+20.6)

It had to be something special to beat out the 2010 year of Aaron Rodgers and boy was it. Manning did the unthinkable in overcoming ridiculous amounts of pressure to push his team to the big game where his Giants would win it all.

Cool, I'm still taking a top 3(at least) QB of all time who has issues in the "clutch" over an average-good QB.

Eli: 8-3 overall. 2-0 against Brady. 2-0 in SB. Stud.

[Jackstack99EMAW]

Brady and Rodgers maybe, that's it.  Brady was not great this year NUWF3.

have, you, jackstack99, like, ever, umm, watched, an, nfl, football, playoff, or, super, bowl, game, ever, before, in, your, whole, entire, life?

i guess you missed the super elite advanced stats article, so i'll copy/paste for you to make it easy and stuff

Quarterback: Eli Manning, 2011 (+20.6)

It had to be something special to beat out the 2010 year of Aaron Rodgers and boy was it. Manning did the unthinkable in overcoming ridiculous amounts of pressure to push his team to the big game where his Giants would win it all.

Cool, I'm still taking a top 3(at least) QB of all time who has issues in the "clutch" over an average-good QB.

Eli: 8-3 overall. 2-0 against Brady. 2-0 in SB. Stud.

QB may be the most important position, but you don't count QB wins.  Eli had much better defenses than Peyton in Indy and Denver.

[j-dub]

Brady and Rodgers maybe, that's it.  Brady was not great this year NUWF3.

have, you, jackstack99, like, ever, umm, watched, an, nfl, football, playoff, or, super, bowl, game, ever, before, in, your, whole, entire, life?

i guess you missed the super elite advanced stats article, so i'll copy/paste for you to make it easy and stuff

Quarterback: Eli Manning, 2011 (+20.6)

It had to be something special to beat out the 2010 year of Aaron Rodgers and boy was it. Manning did the unthinkable in overcoming ridiculous amounts of pressure to push his team to the big game where his Giants would win it all.

Cool, I'm still taking a top 3(at least) QB of all time who has issues in the "clutch" over an average-good QB.

Eli: 8-3 overall. 2-0 against Brady. 2-0 in SB. Stud.

QB may be the most important position, but you don't count QB wins.  Eli had much better defenses than Peyton in Indy and Denver.

5 times peyton has had a top 5 defense and failed to advance to or past the afc championship each time. meanwhile he's always had a far better offense than anyone else in history save montana.

[Jackstack99EMAW]

Brady and Rodgers maybe, that's it.  Brady was not great this year NUWF3.

have, you, jackstack99, like, ever, umm, watched, an, nfl, football, playoff, or, super, bowl, game, ever, before, in, your, whole, entire, life?

i guess you missed the super elite advanced stats article, so i'll copy/paste for you to make it easy and stuff

Quarterback: Eli Manning, 2011 (+20.6)

It had to be something special to beat out the 2010 year of Aaron Rodgers and boy was it. Manning did the unthinkable in overcoming ridiculous amounts of pressure to push his team to the big game where his Giants would win it all.

Cool, I'm still taking a top 3(at least) QB of all time who has issues in the "clutch" over an average-good QB.

Eli: 8-3 overall. 2-0 against Brady. 2-0 in SB. Stud.

QB may be the most important position, but you don't count QB wins.  Eli had much better defenses than Peyton in Indy and Denver.

5 times peyton has had a top 5 defense and failed to advance to or past the afc championship each time. meanwhile he's always had a far better offense than anyone else in history save montana.

http://outsidethehashes.com/?p=836

[j-dub]

brady (maybe)

also. that article is pre-broncos era. his supporting cast absolutely supported him against baltimore last season. two special teams td's should have put that game out of reach.

the article is interesting. but flawed. mostly because it didn't take into account the receivers or offensive systems. peyton is the only qb who has been allowed to exercise his inner control freak to the point that he actually is essentially the offensive coordinator. he has tailored the offense to run completely through him and the passing game. and while that makes for impressive regular season numbers, finesse passing offenses historically have been stymied in the postseason. not to mention, it makes it very difficult to field a great defense when so much money is tied up in the qb, wr's, rb's and o-line.

brady has been able to rely on his defenses and running game because bill belichek wouldn't allow it any other way.

like i said, brady hasn't been the great postseason performer that everyone believes him to be for a long time. and considering he did very little besides protect the ball in the 1st sb, and barely beat guys like mcnabb and delhomme in the other 2..perhaps, brady has always been given more than his just due.

[slimz]

brady (maybe)

also. that article is pre-broncos era. his supporting cast absolutely supported him against baltimore last season. two special teams td's should have put that game out of reach.

the article is interesting. but flawed. mostly because it didn't take into account the receivers or offensive systems. peyton is the only qb who has been allowed to exercise his inner control freak to the point that he actually is essentially the offensive coordinator. he has tailored the offense to run completely through him and the passing game. and while that makes for impressive regular season numbers, finesse passing offenses historically have been stymied in the postseason. not to mention, it makes it very difficult to field a great defense when so much money is tied up in the qb, wr's, rb's and o-line.

brady has been able to rely on his defenses and running game because bill belichek wouldn't allow it any other way.

like i said, brady hasn't been the great postseason performer that everyone believes him to be for a long time. and considering he did very little besides protect the ball in the 1st sb, and barely beat guys like mcnabb and delhomme in the other 2..perhaps, brady has always been given more than his just due.

This is an excellent post.

Also, I will bet NUWF3 a bottle of Tank 7 that, from here on out, until their respective retirements, Alex Smith wins more Super Bowls than Peyton. Same # = push. Will also make a secondary bet with him for a comparable wager that Alex averages more TD's thrown per Super Bowl played in than Peyton did (sorry, I mean, "does").

 

[Cire]

Elway couldn't win a super bowl without a 2000 yard rusher.

[Headinjun]

brady (maybe)

also. that article is pre-broncos era. his supporting cast absolutely supported him against baltimore last season. two special teams td's should have put that game out of reach.

the article is interesting. but flawed. mostly because it didn't take into account the receivers or offensive systems. peyton is the only qb who has been allowed to exercise his inner control freak to the point that he actually is essentially the offensive coordinator. he has tailored the offense to run completely through him and the passing game. and while that makes for impressive regular season numbers, finesse passing offenses historically have been stymied in the postseason. not to mention, it makes it very difficult to field a great defense when so much money is tied up in the qb, wr's, rb's and o-line.

brady has been able to rely on his defenses and running game because bill belichek wouldn't allow it any other way.

like i said, brady hasn't been the great postseason performer that everyone believes him to be for a long time. and considering he did very little besides protect the ball in the 1st sb, and barely beat guys like mcnabb and delhomme in the other 2..perhaps, brady has always been given more than his just due.

This is an excellent post.

Also, I will bet NUWF3 a bottle of Tank 7 that, from here on out, until their respective retirements, Alex Smith wins more Super Bowls than Peyton. Same # = push. Will also make a secondary bet with him for a comparable wager that Alex averages more TD's thrown per Super Bowl played in than Peyton did (sorry, I mean, "does").

 

No it's a dumb post.

15. Jan. 14, 2012: Patriots 45, Broncos 10
Brady: 26-for-34, 363 yards, 6 TDs, 1 INT

17. Jan. 13, 2013: Patriots 41, Texans 28
Brady: 25-for-40, 344 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INT

Also McNabb and Delhome never played defense, so that point is dumb too. 

Brady has led his team to three straight AFC title games, with one preceding a SB appearance.  He's been asked time and time again to play his role and he does it well with 5' nothing's and JV hopefuls. 

[j-dub]

Elway couldn't win a super bowl without a 2000 yard rusher.

td only had 1700 in 97 you idiot 

[j-dub]

brady (maybe)

also. that article is pre-broncos era. his supporting cast absolutely supported him against baltimore last season. two special teams td's should have put that game out of reach.

the article is interesting. but flawed. mostly because it didn't take into account the receivers or offensive systems. peyton is the only qb who has been allowed to exercise his inner control freak to the point that he actually is essentially the offensive coordinator. he has tailored the offense to run completely through him and the passing game. and while that makes for impressive regular season numbers, finesse passing offenses historically have been stymied in the postseason. not to mention, it makes it very difficult to field a great defense when so much money is tied up in the qb, wr's, rb's and o-line.

brady has been able to rely on his defenses and running game because bill belichek wouldn't allow it any other way.

like i said, brady hasn't been the great postseason performer that everyone believes him to be for a long time. and considering he did very little besides protect the ball in the 1st sb, and barely beat guys like mcnabb and delhomme in the other 2..perhaps, brady has always been given more than his just due.

This is an excellent post.

Also, I will bet NUWF3 a bottle of Tank 7 that, from here on out, until their respective retirements, Alex Smith wins more Super Bowls than Peyton. Same # = push. Will also make a secondary bet with him for a comparable wager that Alex averages more TD's thrown per Super Bowl played in than Peyton did (sorry, I mean, "does").

 

No it's a dumb post.

15. Jan. 14, 2012: Patriots 45, Broncos 10
Brady: 26-for-34, 363 yards, 6 TDs, 1 INT

17. Jan. 13, 2013: Patriots 41, Texans 28
Brady: 25-for-40, 344 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INT

Also McNabb and Delhome never played defense, so that point is dumb too. 

Brady has led his team to three straight AFC title games, with one preceding a SB appearance.  He's been asked time and time again to play his role and he does it well with 5' nothing's and JV hopefuls.

tebow and t.j. yates were the opposing qb's