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Acting
« on: January 30, 2014, 02:17:53 PM »
Interesting fact: If you ask theater professors who were here when Stonestreet was, he wasn't really regarded as a great actor. He was obviously above average, but nothing incredibly special. Acting seems like such a crap shoot. Lots of good actors will work their ass off and never make it, and a lot of crappy ones will catch a break early.

I've never been able to recognize good acting.  Like, obviously somebody can suck at acting enough to be disqualified from getting a role, but I don't appreciate anyone's acting skills in anything I watch.  If it's a decent show, they're all good enough for whatever they're doing.  I either enjoy the show/movie or I don't.  What are people seeing that makes them think that an actor a is better than another would've been in a role or that an actor a is better than another in the same show?


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Re: Acting
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2014, 02:19:07 PM »
can you tell how a person is feeling based on their facial expression?

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Re: Acting
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2014, 02:20:49 PM »
can you tell how a person is feeling based on their facial expression?

I think so, usually.

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Re: Acting
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2014, 02:22:00 PM »
Watch two broke girls and then watch what's eating gilbert grape. Tell me if you see a difference between leo and the girls.

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Re: Acting
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2014, 02:22:41 PM »
do they hold your interest, even if not doing anything interesting.
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Re: Acting
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2014, 02:23:16 PM »
Watch two broke girls and then watch what's eating gilbert grape. Tell me if you see a difference between leo and the girls.

I'm not going to watch either of those, but I think one's a generic sitcom and the other's an old movie.

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Re: Acting
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2014, 02:23:26 PM »
diversity is pretty important to me. being able to play a variety of roles make you a very good actor.
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Re: Acting
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2014, 02:24:46 PM »
do they hold your interest, even if not doing anything interesting.

I can't think of anything like that.

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Re: Acting
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2014, 02:26:12 PM »
Watch two broke girls and then watch what's eating gilbert grape. Tell me if you see a difference between leo and the girls.

Might be some difference in the writing.

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Re: Acting
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2014, 02:27:10 PM »
Watch two broke girls and then watch what's eating gilbert grape. Tell me if you see a difference between leo and the girls.

Might be some difference in the writing.
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Re: Acting
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2014, 02:27:33 PM »
diversity is pretty important to me. being able to play a variety of roles make you a very good actor.

OK, but can't any adequate actor do that?  Who's an example of an actor whose subpar skills prevent him (OR HER!) from being able to play a variety or roles yet has the skills to work as an actor in a singular role?

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Re: Acting
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2014, 02:28:32 PM »
diversity is pretty important to me. being able to play a variety of roles make you a very good actor.

OK, but can't any adequate actor do that?  Who's an example of an actor whose subpar skills prevent him (OR HER!) from being able to play a variety or roles yet has the skills to work as an actor in a singular role?
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Re: Acting
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2014, 02:31:33 PM »
diversity is pretty important to me. being able to play a variety of roles make you a very good actor.

OK, but can't any adequate actor do that?  Who's an example of an actor whose subpar skills prevent him (OR HER!) from being able to play a variety or roles yet has the skills to work as an actor in a singular role?
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Re: Acting
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2014, 02:32:32 PM »
diversity is pretty important to me. being able to play a variety of roles make you a very good actor.

OK, but can't any adequate actor do that?  Who's an example of an actor whose subpar skills prevent him (OR HER!) from being able to play a variety or roles yet has the skills to work as an actor in a singular role?
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That's typecasting.  There's no reason to thin that Michael Richards couldn't do just fine in a different role in a well-produced show or movie, aside from the whole bigoted stand-up episode.

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Re: Acting
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2014, 02:33:52 PM »
diversity is pretty important to me. being able to play a variety of roles make you a very good actor.

OK, but can't any adequate actor do that?  Who's an example of an actor whose subpar skills prevent him (OR HER!) from being able to play a variety or roles yet has the skills to work as an actor in a singular role?
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VV was pretty good in the remake of Psycho. That was a very un-VV esq role.

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Re: Acting
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2014, 02:34:52 PM »
diversity is pretty important to me. being able to play a variety of roles make you a very good actor.

OK, but can't any adequate actor do that?  Who's an example of an actor whose subpar skills prevent him (OR HER!) from being able to play a variety or roles yet has the skills to work as an actor in a singular role?

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Re: Acting
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2014, 02:35:03 PM »
I assume you saw The Dark Knight? Heath Ledger gave a pretty good performance in that. He made the character seem like a real person, or at least a real comic book person, played him consistently throughout, and added some bizarre quirks to keep your interest.

I think the best acting performance I've seen is Daniel Day Lewis in There Will Be Blood. It's on Netflix if you have any desire to watch it. He doesn't have many spoken lines, but demonstrates his emotion through facial expressions. It's not over the top (anyone can show a sad face to show that your sad) but it's believable. Like you have to see through the facade that his character is putting on to know what the character is really thinking. So as an actor, he has to play a character on two different levels.

I don't know if that makes any sense, and I'm really just talking about great acting performances in oppose to great actors. But I don't really want to erase all that to go back and answer your actual question.

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Re: Acting
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2014, 02:35:12 PM »
I guess if you can convince ppl that you're in love with your Ipad device and want to bang it, that might be good acting.

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Re: Acting
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2014, 02:35:26 PM »
Watch two broke girls and then watch what's eating gilbert grape. Tell me if you see a difference between leo and the girls.

Might be some difference in the writing.
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1)this exchange was very funny
2)trim has already answered his own question. he doesn't notice a difference because he doesn't care about it and it's not important to him. eskimos have seven different words for snow and trim has one for people in movies and on tv-actor type people/things.

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Re: Acting
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2014, 02:35:40 PM »
Vince Vaughn

IMDB says he played Norman Bates in the 2000 remake of Psycho.

EDIT: someone already mentioned that.

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Re: Acting
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2014, 02:36:24 PM »
diversity is pretty important to me. being able to play a variety of roles make you a very good actor.

OK, but can't any adequate actor do that?  Who's an example of an actor whose subpar skills prevent him (OR HER!) from being able to play a variety or roles yet has the skills to work as an actor in a singular role?
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Vince Vaughn
VV was pretty good in the remake of Psycho. That was a very un-VV esq role.

Also Jurassic Park 2: The Lost World.

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Re: Acting
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2014, 02:36:51 PM »
diversity is pretty important to me. being able to play a variety of roles make you a very good actor.

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Re: Acting
« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2014, 02:38:11 PM »
I assume you saw The Dark Knight? Heath Ledger gave a pretty good performance in that. He made the character seem like a real person, or at least a real comic book person, played him consistently throughout, and added some bizarre quirks to keep your interest.

I couldn't tell.  The dude was in face paint.  I'm convinced it became a thing to say stuff like what you said because he OD'd.

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« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2014, 02:39:27 PM »
When you are watching a movie, if in the back of your mind you are referring to them as the character instead of as the actor then they are probably doing a pretty good job.

Gary Oldman comes to mind.

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« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2014, 02:39:37 PM »
I think the best acting performance I've seen is Daniel Day Lewis in There Will Be Blood. It's on Netflix if you have any desire to watch it. He doesn't have many spoken lines, but demonstrates his emotion through facial expressions. It's not over the top (anyone can show a sad face to show that your sad) but it's believable. Like you have to see through the facade that his character is putting on to know what the character is really thinking. So as an actor, he has to play a character on two different levels.

Could other actors have done the same thing?  Maybe it was a well-written/produced/directed movie.  I haven't seen it.

I also don't really get directing and producing.