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Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 01, 2014, 02:21:32 PMQuote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on March 01, 2014, 02:19:37 PMQuote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 01, 2014, 02:16:18 PMQuote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on February 28, 2014, 05:31:20 PMQuote from: Rage Against the McKee on February 28, 2014, 04:34:42 PMQuote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 28, 2014, 03:21:05 PMhttp://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/02/28/planned_parenthood_president_when_life_begins_not_relevant_to_conversation.htmlI didn't watch the video, but the headline is pretty much right. People aren't arguing over when life begins so much as when rights begin.She said "for her life begins at birth". This is really the only answer she can give without laying in bed at night wondering if she an accessory to millions of murders. It has to be a difficult position to defend without sounding like an uncaring monster.We don't lose sleep over millions of people who die around the world from illness/starvation/war because they aren't a part of our society. Why should the unborn be any different? They are clearly alive, in my scientific opinion.Exactly, we can't pass laws reducing war around the world, just like we can't pass laws reducing abortion. Exactly.I never said that we can't pass laws. We probably shouldn't, though. Less government involvement in people's lives is a good thing, and the people that abortion laws would target really aren't threats to society in need of incarceration.No, I agree with you - the less government involvement in people's lives (as long as you've been born, anyway), the better. Totally agree. Of course, if you haven't been born yet, you'd probably appreciate a little more protection, but minor point. Minor point.
Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on March 01, 2014, 02:19:37 PMQuote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 01, 2014, 02:16:18 PMQuote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on February 28, 2014, 05:31:20 PMQuote from: Rage Against the McKee on February 28, 2014, 04:34:42 PMQuote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 28, 2014, 03:21:05 PMhttp://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/02/28/planned_parenthood_president_when_life_begins_not_relevant_to_conversation.htmlI didn't watch the video, but the headline is pretty much right. People aren't arguing over when life begins so much as when rights begin.She said "for her life begins at birth". This is really the only answer she can give without laying in bed at night wondering if she an accessory to millions of murders. It has to be a difficult position to defend without sounding like an uncaring monster.We don't lose sleep over millions of people who die around the world from illness/starvation/war because they aren't a part of our society. Why should the unborn be any different? They are clearly alive, in my scientific opinion.Exactly, we can't pass laws reducing war around the world, just like we can't pass laws reducing abortion. Exactly.I never said that we can't pass laws. We probably shouldn't, though. Less government involvement in people's lives is a good thing, and the people that abortion laws would target really aren't threats to society in need of incarceration.
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 01, 2014, 02:16:18 PMQuote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on February 28, 2014, 05:31:20 PMQuote from: Rage Against the McKee on February 28, 2014, 04:34:42 PMQuote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 28, 2014, 03:21:05 PMhttp://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/02/28/planned_parenthood_president_when_life_begins_not_relevant_to_conversation.htmlI didn't watch the video, but the headline is pretty much right. People aren't arguing over when life begins so much as when rights begin.She said "for her life begins at birth". This is really the only answer she can give without laying in bed at night wondering if she an accessory to millions of murders. It has to be a difficult position to defend without sounding like an uncaring monster.We don't lose sleep over millions of people who die around the world from illness/starvation/war because they aren't a part of our society. Why should the unborn be any different? They are clearly alive, in my scientific opinion.Exactly, we can't pass laws reducing war around the world, just like we can't pass laws reducing abortion. Exactly.
Quote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on February 28, 2014, 05:31:20 PMQuote from: Rage Against the McKee on February 28, 2014, 04:34:42 PMQuote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 28, 2014, 03:21:05 PMhttp://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/02/28/planned_parenthood_president_when_life_begins_not_relevant_to_conversation.htmlI didn't watch the video, but the headline is pretty much right. People aren't arguing over when life begins so much as when rights begin.She said "for her life begins at birth". This is really the only answer she can give without laying in bed at night wondering if she an accessory to millions of murders. It has to be a difficult position to defend without sounding like an uncaring monster.We don't lose sleep over millions of people who die around the world from illness/starvation/war because they aren't a part of our society. Why should the unborn be any different? They are clearly alive, in my scientific opinion.
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on February 28, 2014, 04:34:42 PMQuote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 28, 2014, 03:21:05 PMhttp://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/02/28/planned_parenthood_president_when_life_begins_not_relevant_to_conversation.htmlI didn't watch the video, but the headline is pretty much right. People aren't arguing over when life begins so much as when rights begin.She said "for her life begins at birth". This is really the only answer she can give without laying in bed at night wondering if she an accessory to millions of murders. It has to be a difficult position to defend without sounding like an uncaring monster.
Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 28, 2014, 03:21:05 PMhttp://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/02/28/planned_parenthood_president_when_life_begins_not_relevant_to_conversation.htmlI didn't watch the video, but the headline is pretty much right. People aren't arguing over when life begins so much as when rights begin.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/02/28/planned_parenthood_president_when_life_begins_not_relevant_to_conversation.html
So, rage, in your mind partial birth abortion must be premeditated murder then. That seems logical.
Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on March 01, 2014, 02:36:31 PMQuote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 01, 2014, 02:21:32 PMQuote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on March 01, 2014, 02:19:37 PMQuote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 01, 2014, 02:16:18 PMQuote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on February 28, 2014, 05:31:20 PMQuote from: Rage Against the McKee on February 28, 2014, 04:34:42 PMQuote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 28, 2014, 03:21:05 PMhttp://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/02/28/planned_parenthood_president_when_life_begins_not_relevant_to_conversation.htmlI didn't watch the video, but the headline is pretty much right. People aren't arguing over when life begins so much as when rights begin.She said "for her life begins at birth". This is really the only answer she can give without laying in bed at night wondering if she an accessory to millions of murders. It has to be a difficult position to defend without sounding like an uncaring monster.We don't lose sleep over millions of people who die around the world from illness/starvation/war because they aren't a part of our society. Why should the unborn be any different? They are clearly alive, in my scientific opinion.Exactly, we can't pass laws reducing war around the world, just like we can't pass laws reducing abortion. Exactly.I never said that we can't pass laws. We probably shouldn't, though. Less government involvement in people's lives is a good thing, and the people that abortion laws would target really aren't threats to society in need of incarceration.No, I agree with you - the less government involvement in people's lives (as long as you've been born, anyway), the better. Totally agree. Of course, if you haven't been born yet, you'd probably appreciate a little more protection, but minor point. Minor point.You aren't a citizen until you are born, and as a non-citizen, you really shouldn't expect government protections.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning. They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.
Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 01, 2014, 09:14:10 PMSo, rage, in your mind partial birth abortion must be premeditated murder then. That seems logical.Morally, there really isn't much difference between abortion and murder. I really don't believe in legislating morality and setting laws up that only serve to punish people, though. People who go get abortions really aren't a threat to anybody other than their future children, and imprisoning these people for murder will make those children every bit as nonexistent as future abortions would.
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 02, 2014, 12:40:19 AMQuote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 01, 2014, 09:14:10 PMSo, rage, in your mind partial birth abortion must be premeditated murder then. That seems logical.Morally, there really isn't much difference between abortion and murder. I really don't believe in legislating morality and setting laws up that only serve to punish people, though. People who go get abortions really aren't a threat to anybody other than their future children, and imprisoning these people for murder will make those children every bit as nonexistent as future abortions would.Exactly. We shouldn't legislate morality, and there isn't much difference between abortion and murder. Really pisses me off that we have all this legislation against murder. Government ought to mind its own business and not legislate morality.Also, I agree it makes me sooooo mad that abortion opponents want to imprison women getting abortions - as opposed to the doctors performing them.Also, I agree there's really no practical difference between abortion and someone not getting pregnant. Either way, no kid, amiright?
Russia would think twice about invading Crimea if Wendy would STFU
Quote from: Limestone on March 03, 2014, 11:27:32 AMRussia would think twice about invading Crimea if Wendy would STFUI think I missed Wendy's comments about Crimea. Could sway me to Greg Abbott.
More proof that radical outlets like NARAL aren't just "pro choice" - they're "pro abortion."http://thehill.com/policy/technology/204571-google-removes-anti-abortion-ads-after-pressure
That ad was a lot more truthful than most political ads.
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on October 12, 2014, 12:00:48 PMThat ad was a lot more truthful than most political ads.Abbott is a lawyer that does lawyer stuff. Not a hypocrite.
Quote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 12, 2014, 02:38:08 PMQuote from: Rage Against the McKee on October 12, 2014, 12:00:48 PMThat ad was a lot more truthful than most political ads.Abbott is a lawyer that does lawyer stuff. Not a hypocrite.He definitely is a hypocrite, and I don't think he has a leg to stand on.
It's amazing to me that any political consultant thought that ad would be a good idea. It's almost as if she knows the race is over, she's still got some money to burn, and just thought "well, eff it, and eff him."
