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Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
« Reply #75 on: January 24, 2014, 04:33:46 PM »
Serious question: At what point in the pregnancy do you believe they become people?

7 months

8.5 years of age
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Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
« Reply #76 on: January 24, 2014, 04:44:54 PM »
I don't get how Repubs want people to have the baby but do not want to provide social services for it.

That has always been the parent's responsibility. Not sure when it changed to government responsibility  :dunno:

Some parents aren't capable and thus have the abortion.  Over half of the people that have an abortion are low income.  A much higher percentage are unmarried.  Between generally being low income and not having a second income to help, if these people have kids they are most likely going to need government assistance.  If people want to say an innocent baby dying is terrible and outlaw it, fine.  They should also recognize that an innocent baby being born into a crap life and not having opportunity because of crap parents is terrible.

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Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
« Reply #77 on: January 24, 2014, 05:58:02 PM »
I don't get how Repubs want people to have the baby but do not want to provide social services for it.

That has always been the parent's responsibility. Not sure when it changed to government responsibility  :dunno:

Some parents aren't capable and thus have the abortion.  Over half of the people that have an abortion are low income.  A much higher percentage are unmarried.  Between generally being low income and not having a second income to help, if these people have kids they are most likely going to need government assistance.  If people want to say an innocent baby dying is terrible and outlaw it, fine.  They should also recognize that an innocent baby being born into a crap life and not having opportunity because of crap parents is terrible.

I'd rather pay for free government vasectomies and hysterectomies than abortions.

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Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
« Reply #78 on: January 24, 2014, 09:08:04 PM »
sounds expensive

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Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
« Reply #79 on: January 24, 2014, 09:31:14 PM »
sounds expensive

You only need to do it once.

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Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
« Reply #80 on: January 25, 2014, 03:32:34 AM »
sounds expensive

You only need to do it once.

hey, everyone get a look at this tax and spend liberal!
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Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
« Reply #81 on: January 25, 2014, 11:44:33 AM »
sounds expensive

You only need to do it once.

hey, everyone get a look at this tax and spend liberal!

It's a consequence of being a true moderate. Attacked from both sides.

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Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
« Reply #82 on: January 25, 2014, 02:51:55 PM »
A little fudge there, a little mis-speak here, it's all okay though:  She's a Democrat


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Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
« Reply #83 on: January 25, 2014, 03:31:39 PM »
A little fudge there, a little mis-speak here, it's all okay though:  She's a Democrat

Wonder if she's native American, too?

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Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
« Reply #84 on: January 25, 2014, 10:07:53 PM »
A little fudge there, a little mis-speak here, it's all okay though:  She's a Democrat

Wonder if she's native American, too?

Unfortunately for Wendy, she's not running in Massahussets. Elizabeth Fauxcahontas Warren basically needed a pulse and a (D) after name.
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Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
« Reply #85 on: January 25, 2014, 11:40:07 PM »
A little fudge there, a little mis-speak here, it's all okay though:  She's a Democrat

Wonder if she's native American, too?

Unfortunately for Wendy, she's not running in Massahussets. Elizabeth Fauxcahontas Warren basically needed a pulse and a (D) after name.

interesting since she replaced a guy with (R) after his name.
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Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
« Reply #86 on: January 26, 2014, 12:50:05 AM »
A little fudge there, a little mis-speak here, it's all okay though:  She's a Democrat

Wonder if she's native American, too?

Unfortunately for Wendy, she's not running in Massahussets. Elizabeth Fauxcahontas Warren basically needed a pulse and a (D) after name.

I don't even think lying to a school about your ethnicity even qualifies as a character flaw, honestly. Good for her on that one.

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Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
« Reply #87 on: January 26, 2014, 02:07:07 AM »
That's a tough question. My heart and head are at odds.

7ish months seems like a decent compromise
By the way at that age the fetus can recognize their parent's voices and are already learning language. 


Easy solution to the abortion question: Let the gblt community have a crack, the pill dispensed in coin op gumball machines, and de-stigmatizing adoption as an option.


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Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
« Reply #88 on: January 26, 2014, 08:36:29 AM »
You can hear the MSM Sunday morning talk shows now if the commentary were reversed.   The outrage...


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Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
« Reply #89 on: January 26, 2014, 01:58:41 PM »
You can hear the MSM Sunday morning talk shows now if the commentary were reversed.   The outrage...


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I doubt they would cover this much. They are really only still talking about Christie because he wants to be president.

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Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
« Reply #90 on: January 27, 2014, 01:13:18 AM »
A little fudge there, a little mis-speak here, it's all okay though:  She's a Democrat

Wonder if she's native American, too?

There's a great possibility that she does have Indian lineage considering her birth in Oklahoma.

Not all people of Native American ancestry are red faces and dark hair. There  are a large number of white people throughout the Midwest  who have mixed genetics and  are non registered.

Her story is believable.

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« Reply #91 on: January 27, 2014, 06:28:39 AM »
A little fudge there, a little mis-speak here, it's all okay though:  She's a Democrat

Wonder if she's native American, too?

There's a great possibility that she does have Indian lineage considering her birth in Oklahoma.

Not all people of Native American ancestry are red faces and dark hair. There  are a large number of white people throughout the Midwest  who have mixed genetics and  are non registered.

Her story is believable.

Yes, if you're willing to just forgo some highly relevant details and facts the story is extremely "believable". 

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Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
« Reply #92 on: January 27, 2014, 09:47:39 AM »
In the world of the right wing herd, everyone who leans left of center loves Wendy Davis. 

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Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
« Reply #93 on: January 27, 2014, 10:48:10 AM »
In the world of the right wing herd, everyone who leans left of center loves Wendy Davis.

But the left leaners won't come out and say why the don't love her. Toe the liberal line, beems.

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Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
« Reply #94 on: January 27, 2014, 10:51:52 AM »
In the world of the right wing herd, everyone who leans left of center loves Wendy Davis.

But the left leaners won't come out and say why the don't love her. Toe the liberal line, beems.

Yeah, she seems like a pretty bad person. I wouldn't expect many lefties to turn on her, though, just like I don't expect much of the right wing to turn on Christie.

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Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
« Reply #95 on: January 27, 2014, 10:57:26 AM »
In the world of the right wing herd, everyone who leans left of center loves Wendy Davis.

But the left leaners won't come out and say why the don't love her. Toe the liberal line, beems.

Yeah, she seems like a pretty bad person. I wouldn't expect many lefties to turn on her, though, just like I don't expect much of the right wing to turn on Christie.

I think Christie gets the benefit of the doubt until there is at least one piece of evidence that he set up the traffic jam. That's one thing you have to respect about the right.  The left is "guilty until proven innocent".

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« Reply #96 on: January 27, 2014, 11:00:03 AM »
In the world of the right wing herd, everyone who leans left of center loves Wendy Davis.

But the left leaners won't come out and say why the don't love her. Toe the liberal line, beems.

Yeah, she seems like a pretty bad person. I wouldn't expect many lefties to turn on her, though, just like I don't expect much of the right wing to turn on Christie.

I think Christie gets the benefit of the doubt until there is at least one piece of evidence that he set up the traffic jam. That's one thing you have to respect about the right.  The left is "guilty until proven innocent".

He's not on trial. If I don't believe him, that's all it takes for me to stop liking him.

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Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
« Reply #97 on: January 27, 2014, 11:17:25 AM »
In the world of the right wing herd, everyone who leans left of center loves Wendy Davis.

But the left leaners won't come out and say why the don't love her. Toe the liberal line, beems.

Yeah, she seems like a pretty bad person. I wouldn't expect many lefties to turn on her, though, just like I don't expect much of the right wing to turn on Christie.

I think Christie gets the benefit of the doubt until there is at least one piece of evidence that he set up the traffic jam. That's one thing you have to respect about the right.  The left is "guilty until proven innocent".

Besides the emails of his right hand administrator setting up the traffic jams?

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Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
« Reply #98 on: January 27, 2014, 11:31:45 AM »
Not a big Wendy Davis fan and don't hate her.  I think the filibuster was good to prevent state laws trying to undercut Roe v Wade but by and large not a huge deal for me.  Don't know anything else about her but I don't care if she lived in a mobile home for 8 months or a year or whatever.  I don't imagine it would make a difference for me if any politician did.  I don't care that she married a guy way older who paid for her college, as I think most male politicians do just as bad if not worse.  Doesn't endear me to her at all, but I don't care that she did it.

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Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
« Reply #99 on: January 27, 2014, 12:02:03 PM »
In the world of the right wing herd, everyone who leans left of center loves Wendy Davis.

But the left leaners won't come out and say why the don't love her. Toe the liberal line, beems.

Yeah, she seems like a pretty bad person. I wouldn't expect many lefties to turn on her, though, just like I don't expect much of the right wing to turn on Christie.

I think Christie gets the benefit of the doubt until there is at least one piece of evidence that he set up the traffic jam. That's one thing you have to respect about the right.  The left is "guilty until proven innocent".

Besides the emails of his right hand administrator setting up the traffic jams?

She was fired for doing that. I'm not naive, but if they're smart enough to not have a paper or electronic trail, he gets the benefit of the doubt, just like Obama. The problem Obama has is he didn't fire anybody, indicating he may be afraid they would implicate him.