Author Topic: U.S. out of top 10 in economic freedom . . (Read 2154 times)

sonofdaxjones · « **on:** January 15, 2014, 07:44:14 AM »

It's not hard to see why the U.S. is losing ground. Even marginal tax rates exceeding 43% cannot finance runaway government spending, which has caused the national debt to skyrocket. The Obama administration continues to shackle entire sectors of the economy with regulation, including health care, finance and energy. The intervention impedes both personal freedom and national prosperity.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303848104579308811265028066?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702303848104579308811265028066.html

bubbles4ksu · « **Reply #1 on:** January 15, 2014, 08:00:46 AM »

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released Tuesday by the Heritage Foundation

my friend is a staffer for paul ryan. he talks about the "lunatics" at the heritage foundation sometimes.

steve dave · « **Reply #2 on:** January 15, 2014, 08:27:52 AM »

Quote from: bubbles4ksu on January 15, 2014, 08:00:46 AM

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released Tuesday by the Heritage Foundation
my friend is a staffer for paul ryan. he talks about the "lunatics" at the heritage foundation sometimes.

Aggieville crooner "The Fabulous Sage" used to work for the Heritage Foundation. true story.

michigancat · « **Reply #3 on:** January 15, 2014, 03:31:55 PM »

Who's in the top ten now?

sys · « **Reply #4 on:** January 15, 2014, 04:10:28 PM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on January 15, 2014, 03:26:39 PM

Either side can call the other sides think tanks (and things of that ilk) lunatics any old time they want. There's plenty of "lunatics" at left leaning publications and broadcast outlets etc. etc.

At the end of the day what it really means is someone is on to something and the other side just doesn't like the reality.

so that's what lunatics means.

sys · « **Reply #5 on:** January 15, 2014, 04:15:20 PM »

moderates = on to nothing, and loving reality.

john "teach me how to" dougie · « **Reply #6 on:** January 15, 2014, 04:19:10 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on January 15, 2014, 03:31:55 PM

Who's in the top ten now?

husserl · « **Reply #7 on:** January 15, 2014, 04:30:05 PM »

hong kong's been #1 for the last 20 years!

star seed 7 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 15, 2014, 05:16:50 PM »

aus #3? but k-s-u fucktard told us that they get taxed in upwards of 75 percent there

bubbles4ksu · « **Reply #9 on:** January 15, 2014, 05:26:04 PM »

putting aside the fact that this is a heritage foundation study, it's dumb that there are countries ranked above us that also have more expansive social programs.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 15, 2014, 05:30:20 PM »

Quote from: bubbles4ksu on January 15, 2014, 05:26:04 PM

putting aside the fact that this is a heritage foundation study, it's dumb that there are countries ranked above us that also have more expansive social programs.

i'm betting they don't buy 5,000 brand new tanks every year.

john "teach me how to" dougie · « **Reply #11 on:** January 15, 2014, 05:40:49 PM »

Quote from: seven on January 15, 2014, 05:30:20 PM

Quote from: bubbles4ksu on January 15, 2014, 05:26:04 PM
putting aside the fact that this is a heritage foundation study, it's dumb that there are countries ranked above us that also have more expansive social programs.

i'm betting they don't buy 5,000 brand new tanks every year.

....or 500,000 penis pumps.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 15, 2014, 05:41:56 PM »

Quote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 15, 2014, 05:40:49 PM

Quote from: seven on January 15, 2014, 05:30:20 PM
Quote from: bubbles4ksu on January 15, 2014, 05:26:04 PM
putting aside the fact that this is a heritage foundation study, it's dumb that there are countries ranked above us that also have more expansive social programs.

i'm betting they don't buy 5,000 brand new tanks every year.

....or 500,000 penis pumps.

michigancat · « **Reply #13 on:** January 15, 2014, 05:47:13 PM »

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123126942

john "teach me how to" dougie · « **Reply #14 on:** January 15, 2014, 06:28:55 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on January 15, 2014, 05:47:13 PM

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123126942

Their GDP is the same as Connecticut. Maybe we should try this model there.

sys · « **Reply #15 on:** January 15, 2014, 06:43:48 PM »

Quote from: bubbles4ksu on January 15, 2014, 05:26:04 PM

putting aside the fact that this is a heritage foundation study, it's dumb that there are countries ranked above us that also have more expansive social programs.

it isn't dumb. taxes and govt spending aren't the only variables considered as impacting economic freedom.

bubbles4ksu · « **Reply #16 on:** January 15, 2014, 07:03:45 PM »

Quote from: sys on January 15, 2014, 06:43:48 PM

Quote from: bubbles4ksu on January 15, 2014, 05:26:04 PM
putting aside the fact that this is a heritage foundation study, it's dumb that there are countries ranked above us that also have more expansive social programs.

it isn't dumb. taxes and govt spending aren't the only variables considered as impacting economic freedom.

i'd wager that denmark's environmental, health care, financial, and other regulations are more strict than our own. more strict should equal less economic freedom but their regulations are probably more efficient as well. it's dumb.

sys · « **Reply #17 on:** January 15, 2014, 07:32:52 PM »

Quote from: bubbles4ksu on January 15, 2014, 07:03:45 PM

it's dumb.

it might be inaccurate (or it might not, i have no idea), but it isn't dumb. only considering taxation would be dumb.

bubbles4ksu · « **Reply #18 on:** January 15, 2014, 07:36:55 PM »

Quote from: sys on January 15, 2014, 07:32:52 PM

Quote from: bubbles4ksu on January 15, 2014, 07:03:45 PM
it's dumb.

it might be inaccurate (or it might not, i have no idea), but it isn't dumb. only considering taxation would be dumb.

i'm saying it's dumb that other countries are able to provide better regulation and better social services AND be more economically free than america. it is dumb governance by america that i'm commenting on, not the study.

sys · « **Reply #19 on:** January 15, 2014, 11:16:44 PM »

sorry, misunderstood.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 16, 2014, 12:39:08 AM »

Do they show the cats and sharks on television in Sydney? If so, syanora bitches!

Emo EMAW · « **Reply #21 on:** January 17, 2014, 10:46:01 AM »

How is Denmark in the top 10 when the tax on a new vehicle is 200 rough ridin' percent!?

mocat · « **Reply #22 on:** January 17, 2014, 11:02:35 AM »

Quote from: Emo EMAW on January 17, 2014, 10:46:01 AM

How is Denmark in the top 10 when the tax on a new vehicle is 200 rough ridin' percent!?

you have unlimited economic freedom when you don't buy a new car DUH EMO

Headinjun · « **Reply #23 on:** January 17, 2014, 12:12:06 PM »

Dax,

Use that story and wipe your ass with it.

Their argument holds no weight.

sys · « **Reply #24 on:** January 17, 2014, 01:25:58 PM »

Quote from: Emo EMAW on January 17, 2014, 10:46:01 AM

How is Denmark in the top 10 when the tax on a new vehicle is 200 rough ridin' percent!?

they have the highest level of total taxation in the world (or close to it, i found different numbers googling around). so as bubbles was pointing out, you can imagine how good they are on the other metrics.