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Re: countertops thread
« Reply #100 on: January 16, 2014, 10:06:29 AM »
I have granite, and I love it, but I think I'd go with a quartz product in my "dream house".

Not sure if it's been talked about, but with granite, you can put hot metal products, but not hot glass products. The cold granite will shatter the glass.


How do the other countertop materials stay warmer?   :popcorn:

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« Reply #101 on: January 16, 2014, 10:07:11 AM »
I have granite, and I love it, but I think I'd go with a quartz product in my "dream house".

Not sure if it's been talked about, but with granite, you can put hot metal products, but not hot glass products. The cold granite will shatter the glass.


How do the other countertop materials stay warmer?   :popcorn:

its an energy density thing

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« Reply #102 on: January 16, 2014, 10:15:17 AM »

VERY nice work KITN.  Those look much nicer than the 3 tops I paid professionals to fabricate.
Back in the day, I used to work at a countertop place and before I left I got just a small amount of experience of working with concrete. I'd definitely recommend them to any Manhattan people, they pay high attention to detail. They do any higher end stuff.

Not a countertop, but here's my fireplace surround that I made out of concrete. There are a lot of things you can do with it, but it's a lot of damn work. That wall color looks pretty hideous in the pic, but that's not really what it looks like.



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« Reply #103 on: January 16, 2014, 10:20:23 AM »
what is supporting that mantle thing?

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Re: countertops thread
« Reply #104 on: January 16, 2014, 10:24:59 AM »
what is supporting that mantle thing?
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Magic = steel that I put in the wet concrete that protruded from the back. I then welded steel vertically to the protrusion that bolted to the studs in the wall. Finished by patching the drywall.
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« Reply #105 on: January 16, 2014, 10:26:05 AM »
did you double up the studs that were supporting the mantle?

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« Reply #106 on: January 16, 2014, 10:27:30 AM »
did you double up the studs that were supporting the mantle?
Can't remember, so prolly no. But the vertical strap I bolted through was like 2' long with 3 bolts on top and bottom. The studs didn't twist at all.
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« Reply #107 on: January 16, 2014, 12:20:53 PM »
Stain or color concrete?  Assuming either depending on the desired result.  It looks like you stained the surround and colored the vanity, correct?

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« Reply #108 on: January 16, 2014, 12:27:03 PM »
Stain or color concrete?  Assuming either depending on the desired result.  It looks like you stained the surround and colored the vanity, correct?
They were all done with integral color.

I played with acid staining for a little bit, but decided against it for my projects, although I do like the look that people can get out of it. Some acid staining is just ridic good. This is one of my personal favorites I've found online:

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« Reply #109 on: January 16, 2014, 12:29:19 PM »
Stain or color concrete?  Assuming either depending on the desired result.  It looks like you stained the surround and colored the vanity, correct?
They were all done with integral color.

I played with acid staining for a little bit, but decided against it for my projects, although I do like the look that people can get out of it. Some acid staining is just ridic good. This is one of my personal favorites I've found online:



the very first one my old company did came out looking just like your surround, with that marbled variation look.  It was fantastic.  Customer hated it because it wasn't a solid consistent color(even though they were told it wouldn't be) and we covered the whole thing with $75k of terrazzo.   The integral makes most sense though in case it gets chipped.  Just surprised you could get that variation with integral color.(haven't worked with much colored concrete).

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Re: countertops thread
« Reply #110 on: January 16, 2014, 12:35:07 PM »
Stain or color concrete?  Assuming either depending on the desired result.  It looks like you stained the surround and colored the vanity, correct?
They were all done with integral color.

I played with acid staining for a little bit, but decided against it for my projects, although I do like the look that people can get out of it. Some acid staining is just ridic good. This is one of my personal favorites I've found online:



the very first one my old company did came out looking just like your surround, with that marbled variation look.  It was fantastic.  Customer hated it because it wasn't a solid consistent color(even though they were told it wouldn't be) and we covered the whole thing with $75k of terrazzo.   The integral makes most sense though in case it gets chipped.  Just surprised you could get that variation with integral color.(haven't worked with much colored concrete).
Buddy Rhodes, who is kind of a decorative concrete guru, developed a method that I used. Essentially, you make thick concrete, form it into balls, and press it into a mold. After it cures, you fill in the voids it leaves with a different color and polish. You can fill it until it's glass smooth, but I left some voids still there to for a slightly rustic look.

Here's an example of how it looks when completely filled in. Obviously any color combination can be used:

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« Reply #111 on: January 16, 2014, 12:51:39 PM »
for a guy named Buddy, that is pretty genius.

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« Reply #112 on: January 16, 2014, 12:54:27 PM »
I have granite, and I love it, but I think I'd go with a quartz product in my "dream house".

Not sure if it's been talked about, but with granite, you can put hot metal products, but not hot glass products. The cold granite will shatter the glass.


How do the other countertop materials stay warmer?   :popcorn:

Well have you ever touched granite? Have you ever touched plastic? Granite is always colder. Same reason metals feel colder than wood. I think it has to do with density and how well it conducts heat away from your hand.

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Re: countertops thread
« Reply #113 on: January 16, 2014, 01:01:29 PM »
I have granite, and I love it, but I think I'd go with a quartz product in my "dream house".

Not sure if it's been talked about, but with granite, you can put hot metal products, but not hot glass products. The cold granite will shatter the glass.


How do the other countertop materials stay warmer?   :popcorn:

Well have you ever touched granite? Have you ever touched plastic? Granite is always colder. Same reason metals feel colder than wood. I think it has to do with density and how well it conducts heat away from your hand.
Specific heat!
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Re: countertops thread
« Reply #114 on: January 16, 2014, 01:03:23 PM »
What kind of animal puts hot pans and dishes directly on a countertop all willy nilly? 

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« Reply #115 on: January 16, 2014, 01:30:48 PM »
What kind of animal puts hot pans and dishes directly on a countertop all willy nilly?

The same kind that uses the counter top as a cutting board.  Unless the counter top is butcher block, in that case it's ok.

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Re: countertops thread
« Reply #116 on: January 16, 2014, 01:34:42 PM »
What kind of animal puts hot pans and dishes directly on a countertop all willy nilly?

The same kind that uses the counter top as a cutting board.  Unless the counter top is butcher block, in that case it's ok.

I cut the crap out of stuff on our countertops. 
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Re: countertops thread
« Reply #117 on: January 16, 2014, 01:36:40 PM »
What kind of animal puts hot pans and dishes directly on a countertop all willy nilly?

The same kind that uses the counter top as a cutting board.  Unless the counter top is butcher block, in that case it's ok.

I cut the crap out of stuff on our countertops.

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Re: countertops thread
« Reply #118 on: January 16, 2014, 01:36:47 PM »
I cut the crap out of stuff on our countertops.


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Re: countertops thread
« Reply #119 on: January 16, 2014, 01:40:01 PM »
What kind of animal puts hot pans and dishes directly on a countertop all willy nilly?

The same kind that uses the counter top as a cutting board.  Unless the counter top is butcher block, in that case it's ok.

I cut the crap out of stuff on our countertops.

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Re: countertops thread
« Reply #120 on: January 16, 2014, 01:44:21 PM »
What kind of animal puts hot pans and dishes directly on a countertop all willy nilly?

The same kind that uses the counter top as a cutting board.  Unless the counter top is butcher block, in that case it's ok.

I cut the crap out of stuff on our countertops.

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Nope.



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Re: countertops thread
« Reply #121 on: January 16, 2014, 01:45:37 PM »
What kind of animal puts hot pans and dishes directly on a countertop all willy nilly?

The same kind that uses the counter top as a cutting board.  Unless the counter top is butcher block, in that case it's ok.

I cut the crap out of stuff on our countertops.

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Nope.



BITB when it comes to cutting.

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Re: countertops thread
« Reply #122 on: January 16, 2014, 01:46:17 PM »
I am no density expert but it seems like your $100 knife would appreciate being used on a bamboo cutting board more than granite countertops.  :dunno:

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Re: countertops thread
« Reply #123 on: January 16, 2014, 01:48:18 PM »
I have like a hundred of them so it's okay.
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Re: countertops thread
« Reply #124 on: January 16, 2014, 02:04:40 PM »
I have like a hundred of them so it's okay.

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