Hmm, who should we pick to lead the investigation into IRS harrassment . . .

[sonofdaxjones]

and purposeful foot dragging in approving/investigating right leaning non-profits?

. . . hmmm . . . not him . . . not her . . . already on another project . . . . to far out of the loop . . . yes, yes . . . Perfect:

BOSSERMAN, BARBARA
ARLINGTON,VA 22206   US DOJ   5/24/12   $1,000   Obama, Barack (D)
BOSSERMAN, BARBARA
ARLINGTON,VA 22206   US DOJ   9/9/12   $500   Obama, Barack (D)
BOSSERMAN, BARBARA
ARLINGTON,VA 22206   US DOJ   11/1/12   $500   Obama, Barack (D)



 

[sonofdaxjones]

. . . rounding up twice the usual suspects

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

sheesh dax, it's not like the IRS caused a traffic jam. who cares.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

sheesh dax, it's not like the IRS caused a traffic jam. who cares.

Traffic jam = "Biggest scandal since Watergate."

Obama Administration using the IRS to suppress free speech = "Meh, let's appoint a Democrat campaign donor to investigate."

[Rage Against the McKee]

Yeah, I'm sure Obama never would have selected those guys without their $500 contributions.

[ChiComCat]

sheesh dax, it's not like the IRS caused a traffic jam. who cares.

Traffic jam = "Biggest scandal since Watergate."

Obama Administration using the IRS to suppress free speech = "Meh, let's appoint a Democrat campaign donor to investigate."

Saying that Christie knew nothing about his scandal and then saying that Obama was directly involved in his is pretty ridiculous

[ChiComCat]

Traffic Jam = so small and not worth reporting
IRS Scandal = OMG, THEY TOTALLY ASKED FOR MORE DOCUMENTATION.  WATERGATE CITY!!!!!!!!11!!

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

sheesh dax, it's not like the IRS caused a traffic jam. who cares.

Traffic jam = "Biggest scandal since Watergate."

Obama Administration using the IRS to suppress free speech = "Meh, let's appoint a Democrat campaign donor to investigate."

Saying that Christie knew nothing about his scandal and then saying that Obama was directly involved in his is pretty ridiculous

I didn't say that. In fact, I said the opposite. See the Christie thread. He's full of crap.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Yeah, I'm sure Obama never would have selected those guys without their $500 contributions.

That's not the point. The point is that Obama selected an ideological liberal to spearhead an investigation into how his administration used the IRS to target conservative groups.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Traffic Jam = so small and not worth reporting
IRS Scandal = OMG, THEY TOTALLY ASKED FOR MORE DOCUMENTATION.  WATERGATE CITY!!!!!!!!11!!

Yeah, the IRS just asked for a little "more documentation." No big deal, amiright? Some might suggest that siccing the IRS on groups of private citizens who had the audacity to participate in the political process is a massive abuse of power that directly threatens the First Amendment. Some might say that.

And who is saying that Christie's abuse of power isn't worth reporting? Certainly not me. I believe I called it "petty thuggishness," which it is. I hope they link it to him (probably won't) and torpedo his career. This is a perfect example of the abuse of power that I detest about government.

[8manpick]

This is a perfect example of the abuse of power that I detest about government.

[ChiComCat]

The IRS mumped up and people should be fired, but at no point was the first amendment threatened.  The abuse being massive is also bullshit.  A couple of groups were hassled and it doesn't seem to have effected their mission in any way.  By all means, crap can the people who hassled them up the highest level that can be proven to be involved.

First Amendment threatened?  Were we in danger of repealing the first amendment because of this?  These people's first amendment rights were threatened and the people proven to be responsible were punished.  Not sure what else you want done.  More checks to prevent it in the future?  Sure.  A whole political party that to concede their most powerful position?  Seems like a bit much

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

The IRS mumped up and people should be fired, but at no point was the first amendment threatened.  The abuse being massive is also bullshit.  A couple of groups were hassled and it doesn't seem to have effected their mission in any way.  By all means, crap can the people who hassled them up the highest level that can be proven to be involved.

First Amendment threatened?  Were we in danger of repealing the first amendment because of this?  These people's first amendment rights were threatened and the people proven to be responsible were punished.  Not sure what else you want done.  More checks to prevent it in the future?  Sure.  A whole political party that to concede their most powerful position?  Seems like a bit much

Ok, so you've already accepted the premise that this was just the IRS on its own volition, and just "a couple of groups were hassled." I'll stop there. There's no reasoning with you. Go back to MSNBC, CNN, or wherever you get your information from.

Well, I'll try one more thing: If you were trying to create a political advocacy group and got a knock on the door from the IRS, I don't think you'd speak so breezily about the first amendment.

[ChiComCat]

I like how people that think the 90% of news stories are partisan because they don't subscribe to their particular nut job views.  If you think reality is out to get you, then maybe the issue is with you and not reality.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

I like how people that think the 90% of news stories are partisan because they don't subscribe to their particular nut job views.  If you think reality is out to get you, then maybe the issue is with you and not reality.

Cool, so go ahead and just ignore what I said then.