TCU

[sunny_cat]

Omari is fine. Just does very stupid things sometimes.

Like shooting threes?

Yes and dribbling into the lane with his head down and turning it over. That works sometimes though inexplicably.

"...power guard." - Frank Martin

Oh Frank...

[kso_FAN]

TCU is bad. Really bad. They aren't quite the worst Big 12 team in the last 12 years (last year's TCU team at #264 kenpom gets that honor) but they will likely finish close. Currently they sit at #219, 5th worst only behind 2013 TCU, 2013 Tech (#233), 2012 Tech (#243), and 05 Baylor (#233). In league games only, the also feature the 2nd worst defensive efficiency (1.18 ppp, only 05 Baylor at 1.21 ppp was worse) in the last 12 years and they currently are the worst defensive rebounding team ever (45.2% OR% allowed, only 3 other teams have given up >40%). It is really amazing that opponents rebound almost half their misses in Big 12 games, making a missed shot almost literally a 50-50 proposition for the offense to get the rebound.

Needless to say, this is a game K-State should win soundly and we will. Yeah, we have to be careful of Anderson and a few others, but they are so bad at so many things and are worse on the road.

Cats 82 - Frogs 67

[Cartierfor3]

[ydarg2012]

I'm curious how bad teams like Nebraska were when they were in the league in comparison to TCU. 

[kso_FAN]

I'm curious how bad teams like Nebraska were when they were in the league in comparison to TCU. 

A few notables:

03 NU (3-13 Big 12) - #151 kenpom, .86 OEff, 1.04 DEff.
04 aTM (0-16) - #188 kenpom, .98 OEff, 1.15 DEff. (Baylor won 3 league games, but was worse in kenpom at #202, and in both OEff and DEff.)
05 BU (1-15) - #233 kenpom, .98 OEff, 1.21 DEff.
07 CU (3-13) - #210 kenpom, .94 OEff, 1.12 DEff.
09 CU (1-15) - #179 kenpom, .92 OEff, 1.10 DEff.
10 NU (2-14) - #90 kenpom, .95 OEff, 1.10 DEff.

[ydarg2012]

I'm curious how bad teams like Nebraska were when they were in the league in comparison to TCU. 

A few notables:

03 NU (3-13 Big 12) - #151 kenpom, .86 OEff, 1.04 DEff.
04 aTM (0-16) - #188 kenpom, .98 OEff, 1.15 DEff. (Baylor won 3 league games, but was worse in kenpom at #202, and in both OEff and DEff.)
05 BU (1-15) - #233 kenpom, .98 OEff, 1.21 DEff.
07 CU (3-13) - #210 kenpom, .94 OEff, 1.12 DEff.
09 CU (1-15) - #179 kenpom, .92 OEff, 1.10 DEff.
10 NU (2-14) - #90 kenpom, .95 OEff, 1.10 DEff.

  TCU is sooo bad.

[kso_FAN]

TCU is sooo bad.

The last 3 seasons have seen some really bad Big 12 teams.

2013 Tech (3-15) - #233 kenpom, .89 OEff, 1.11 DEff.
2013 TCU (2-16) - #264 kenpom, .86 OEff, 1.10 DEff.
2012 Tech (1-17) - #243 kenpom, .84 OEff, 1.09 DEff.

This just makes last year's TCU upset of KU even more astounding. Its literally one of the biggest upsets in the last 30 years of college basketball (and probably more than that).

Looking at Tech also makes what Tubby is doing there pretty amazing too.

[pissclams]

TCU is sooo bad.

The last 3 seasons have seen some really bad Big 12 teams.

2013 Tech (3-15) - #233 kenpom, .89 OEff, 1.11 DEff.
2013 TCU (2-16) - #264 kenpom, .86 OEff, 1.10 DEff.
2012 Tech (1-17) - #243 kenpom, .84 OEff, 1.09 DEff.

This just makes last year's TCU upset of KU even more astounding. Its literally one of the biggest upsets in the last 30 years of college basketball (and probably more than that).

Looking at Tech also makes what Tubby is doing there pretty amazing too.

i'm not really sold on tech.  are they better than last year?  sure.  they were historically terrible last year, tubby would have to be a mongloid to not have them improved.  so to say what he's done is amazing seems like a really long reach.  they're +2 conf wins over last year at this point but I bet tech won't win another game. 

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[kso_FAN]

TCU is sooo bad.

The last 3 seasons have seen some really bad Big 12 teams.

2013 Tech (3-15) - #233 kenpom, .89 OEff, 1.11 DEff.
2013 TCU (2-16) - #264 kenpom, .86 OEff, 1.10 DEff.
2012 Tech (1-17) - #243 kenpom, .84 OEff, 1.09 DEff.

This just makes last year's TCU upset of KU even more astounding. Its literally one of the biggest upsets in the last 30 years of college basketball (and probably more than that).

Looking at Tech also makes what Tubby is doing there pretty amazing too.

i'm not really sold on tech.  are they better than last year?  sure.  they were historically terrible last year, tubby would have to be a mongloid to not have them improved.  so to say what he's done is amazing seems like a really long reach.  they're +2 conf wins over last year at this point but I bet tech won't win another game. 

@OSU
KSU
@BU
@KU
UT

Their improvement on offense is really significant. To go from .89 ppp to 1.09 ppp (Big 12 games) in one season with the same guys is impressive to me, of course that could be a reflection that Chris Walker was just terrible too.

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

TCU only got two wins last year? 

who did they beat?

[TownieCat]

TCU only got two wins last year? 

who did they beat?

Oklahoma and some other bunch of puds.

[pissclams]

TCU is sooo bad.

The last 3 seasons have seen some really bad Big 12 teams.

2013 Tech (3-15) - #233 kenpom, .89 OEff, 1.11 DEff.
2013 TCU (2-16) - #264 kenpom, .86 OEff, 1.10 DEff.
2012 Tech (1-17) - #243 kenpom, .84 OEff, 1.09 DEff.

This just makes last year's TCU upset of KU even more astounding. Its literally one of the biggest upsets in the last 30 years of college basketball (and probably more than that).

Looking at Tech also makes what Tubby is doing there pretty amazing too.

i'm not really sold on tech.  are they better than last year?  sure.  they were historically terrible last year, tubby would have to be a mongloid to not have them improved.  so to say what he's done is amazing seems like a really long reach.  they're +2 conf wins over last year at this point but I bet tech won't win another game. 

@OSU
KSU
@BU
@KU
UT

Their improvement on offense is really significant. To go from .89 ppp to 1.09 ppp (Big 12 games) in one season with the same guys is impressive to me, of course that could be a reflection that Chris Walker was just terrible too.

imo their roster last year was under-performing.  credit to tubby for getting them to play better but amazing?  you want amazing?
look at the transformation of the roster from the 66506 and how many new minutes are being played y-o-y and the ppg of these studs.

[michigancat]

Clams makes a great point.

Also keep in mind everyone's scoring is up this year: Tech went from 9th to 4th returning (almost) everyone. KSU Cats went from 5th to 1st in defense despite losing everyone. Advantage: oscar

[kso_FAN]

Clams makes a great point.

Also keep in mind everyone's scoring is up this year: Tech went from 9th to 4th returning (almost) everyone. KSU Cats went from 5th to 1st in defense despite losing everyone. Advantage: oscar

Our case is sort of strange, especially considering that scoring is up so much.

oscar also went from 2nd (barely) in offense to 9th, a drop of .07 ppp. Defensive ppp is pretty much the same.

Average PPP for the league is at 1.07 compared to 1.02 last year.

[Powercat Posse]

I hope we don't give up 67 pts to TCU. 
They ave 0.91 on 68 poss vs road top 100 (our defense at home is as good as they will face)
We allow 0.93 on 66 poss at home vs top 100 (their offense has more issues than teams we have already faced)

But, I don't know what our energy level will be all night long. 
Still hoping for a 80- 57 type score

[ydarg2012]

Does are ppg really effect anything directly? I hate that on ESPN the stat rankings they show are all offense.  It makes it hard to quantify our strengths without an awesome national ranking for our defense.

[sunny_cat]

Does are ppg really effect anything directly? I hate that on ESPN the stat rankings they show are all offense.  It makes it hard to quantify our strengths without an awesome national ranking for our defense.

But yeah, those stats they show are rough ridin' stupid. "Ranking" offenses based on PPG is so dumb.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

TCUs zone defense is Chet Peters 6' and under league bad.

[8manpick]

[Jackstack99EMAW]

Play our two best games of the year, then look like absolute garbage, thanks oscar.

[Pendergast]

oscar better resign if KSU wins by single digits or inexplicably loses.  Anyone not named Marcus Foster can go ahead and turn in their scholarship as well.

[Jackstack99EMAW]

Marcus and Gip 3 TOs each in the first half. 

[Pendergast]

Marcus and Gip 3 TOs each in the first half.

Both of them are just playing at the rec.  Coaches didn't get the kids up for this game at all.

[PIPE]

Ill see this and raise it by 

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

This game is unbearable to watch, and play seems to have dramatically improved in the second half