Will Foster break Pullen's scoring title?

[420seriouscat69]

 

[kso_FAN]

so if he didn't score a point in the post season, and kept up the exact point total for each of the next 3 seasons it would put him at 3? I think he has a real good shot at #1.

Yes. He's got at least 2 more games left, so its likely he'll get to 500 points and be only the 19th K-State player ever to do so. (full list below)

If he just gets his average in just 2  more games he'll finish with 507 points, which would be 23.8% of Pullen's total, well on track for the record if he doesn't get injured and miss a lot of games (or go pro early).

Season Points
1. 866 Michael Beasley 2007-08 __________33 gms
2. 786 Mitch Richmond 1987-88 __________34 gms
3. 729 Askia Jones 1993-94 __________33 gms
4. 715 Jacob Pullen 2009-10 __________37 gms
5. 691 Bob Boozer 1958-59 __________27 gms
6. 648 Willie Murrell 1963-64 __________29 gms
7. 640 Chuckie Williams 1974-75 __________29 gms
8. 626 Jacob Pullen 2010-11 __________31 gms
9. 613 Denis Clemente 2009-10 __________37 gms
10. 609 Norris Coleman 1985-86 __________28 gms
Others to Top 500 Points in a Season (18)
599 Cartier Martin 2006-07 __________35 gms
585 Chuckie Williams 1975-76 __________28 gms
566 Mike Evans 1976-77 __________31 gms
559 Mitch Richmond 1986-87 __________30 gms
556 Steve Henson 1989-90 __________32 gms
555 Mike Evans 1977-78 __________29 gms
555 Steve Henson 1988-89 __________30 gms
552 Rolando Blackman 1979-80 __________31 gms
547 Rodney McGruder 2012-13 __________35 gms
544 Bob Boozer 1957-58 __________27 gms
544 Joe Wright 1985-86 __________30 gms
523 Rodney McGruder 2011-12 __________33 gms
518 Jeremiah Massey 2004-05 __________29 gms
516 Curtis Redding 1976-77 __________31 gms
514 Curtis Redding 1977-78 __________28 gms
508 David Hoskins 2006-07 __________35 gms
504 Cartier Martin 2005-06 __________28 gms
502 Mike Evans 1975-76 __________28 gms

[kso_FAN]

Compared to other freshmen at K-State (I just included the categories he'll make):

Points
1. 866 Michael Beasley __________2007-08
2. 609 Norris Coleman __________1985-86
3. 516 Curtis Redding____________1976-77
4. 498 Bill Walker ______________2007-08
5. 492 Mike Evans ______________1974-75
6. 319 Jacob Pullen ____________2007-08
7. 315 Rolando Blackman ________1977-78
8. 286 Ed Nealy ______________1978-79
9. 282 Jamar Samuels __________2008-09
10. 265 Angel Rodriguez __________2011-12

Foster - 477

Assists
1. 116 Clent Stewart ____________2004-05
2. 114 Steve Henson ____________1986-87
3. 106 Jacob Pullen ____________2007-08
4. 101 Angel Rodriguez __________2011-12
5. 88 Benny Green ____________1985-86
88 Glenn Marshall __________1978-79
7. 73 Nick Williams ____________2001-02
8. 68 Freddy Marshall __________1982-83
9. 65 Jim Roder ______________1982-83
10. 64 Tyrone Adams ____________1978-79

Foster 75

Field Goals Made
1. 307 Michael Beasley __________2007-08
2. 254 Norris Coleman __________1985-86
3. 213 Mike Evans ______________1974-75
4. 196 Curtis Redding____________1976-77
5. 181 Bill Walker ______________2007-08
6. 127 Rolando Blackman ________1977-78
7. 115 Ed Nealy ______________1978-79
8. 108 Jacob Pullen ____________2007-08
9. 105 Glenn Marshall __________1978-79
10. 103 Askia Jones______________1989-90

Foster 163

Field Goals Attempts
1. 577 Michael Beasley __________2007-08
2. 490 Norris Coleman __________1985-86
3. 461 Curtis Redding____________1976-77
4. 446 Mike Evans ______________1974-75
5. 389 Bill Walker ______________2007-08
6. 269 Rolando Blackman ________1977-78
269 Jacob Pullen ____________2007-08
8. 266 Ed Nealy ______________1978-79
9. 250 Askia Jones______________1989-90
10. 239 Glenn Marshall __________1978-79

Foster 388

3-Point Field Goals Made
1. 42 Brian Henson ____________1991-92
2. 40 Jacob Pullen ____________2007-08
40 Will Spradling ____________2010-11
4. 36 Michael Beasley __________2007-08
5. 35 Bill Walker ______________2007-08
6. 32 Angel Rodriguez __________2011-12
7. 26 Steve Henson ____________1986-87
8. 23 Clent Stewart ____________2004-05
23 Nick Williams ____________2001-02
10. 21 Dez Willingham __________2003-04

Foster 75

3-Point Field Goal Percentage
1. .406 Steve Henson ____________1986-87
2. .382 Brian Henson ____________1991-92
3. .379 Michael Beasley __________2007-08
4. .377 Nick Williams ____________2001-02
5. .370 Will Spradling ____________2010-11
6. .368 Dez Willingham __________2003-04
7. .347 Cartier Martin ____________2003-04
8. .319 Clent Stewart ____________2004-05
9. .318 Adam Lopez ____________1997-98
10. .317 Angel Rodriguez __________2011-12

Foster .397

Free Throws Made
1. 216 Michael Beasley __________2007-08
2. 124 Curtis Redding____________1976-77
3. 101 Norris Coleman __________1985-86
101 Bill Walker ______________2007-08
5. 97 Jamar Samuels __________2008-09
6. 73 Angel Rodriguez __________2011-12
7. 69 Marques Hayden __________2002-03
8. 66 Mike Evans ______________1974-75
9. 63 Jacob Pullen ____________2007-08
10. 61 Rolando Blackman ________1977-78

Foster 78

Free Throw Percentage
1. .832 Curtis Redding____________1976-77
2. .826 Steve Henson ____________1986-87
3. .815 Mike Evans ______________1974-75
4. .789 Ed Nealy ______________1978-79
5. .774 Michael Beasley __________2007-08
6. .747 Nick Williams ____________2001-02
7. .743 Norris Coleman __________1985-86
8. .737 Bill Walker ______________2007-08
9. .689 Angel Rodriguez __________2011-12
10. .685 Jacob Pullen ____________2007-08

Foster .729

Minutes Played
1. 1,041 Michael Beasley __________2007-08
2. 992 Norris Coleman __________1985-86
3. 950 Steve Henson ____________1986-87
4. 922 Clent Stewart ____________2004-05
5. 846 Bill Walker ______________2007-08
6. 818 Nick Williams ____________2001-02
7. 771 Jacob Pullen ____________2007-08
8. 745 Will Spradling ____________2010-11
9. 715 Askia Jones______________1989-90
10. 698 Jamar Samuels __________2008-09

Foster 932

[scottwildcat]

Fost-dog is going to have his jersey in the rafters....(better be after Jake tho)

[AbeFroman]

I knew Beasley was the greatest ever player to play for the Cats, but I didn't realize the sheer magnitude of how much better he was than the 2nd best ever player. Just absurd.

[kso_FAN]

I knew Beasley was the greatest ever player to play for the Cats, but I didn't realize the sheer magnitude of how much better he was than the 2nd best ever player. Just absurd.

I'm on the fence on a lot things, but I don't expect to ever see another Beasley caliber player at K-State in my lifetime. He put up video game numbers.

[asava]

I knew Beasley was the greatest ever player to play for the Cats, but I didn't realize the sheer magnitude of how much better he was than the 2nd best ever player. Just absurd.

I'm on the fence on a lot things, but I don't expect to ever see another Beasley caliber player at K-State in my lifetime. He put up video game numbers.

It was incredible to watch.

[Stevesie60]

I knew Beasley was the greatest ever player to play for the Cats, but I didn't realize the sheer magnitude of how much better he was than the 2nd best ever player. Just absurd.

I'm on the fence on a lot things, but I don't expect to ever see another Beasley caliber player at K-State in my lifetime. He put up video game numbers.

How many more times in our lifetime do we see a player like that in college basketball period? Maybe twice?

[kso_FAN]

I knew Beasley was the greatest ever player to play for the Cats, but I didn't realize the sheer magnitude of how much better he was than the 2nd best ever player. Just absurd.

I'm on the fence on a lot things, but I don't expect to ever see another Beasley caliber player at K-State in my lifetime. He put up video game numbers.

How many more times in our lifetime do we see a player like that in college basketball period? Maybe twice?

Maybe. It's crazy we saw Beasley and Durant so close together. Throw Carmelo in there too.

[michigancat]

I don't think the current 1-year rule will be around for our entire lifetimes.

[MakeItRain]

I don't think the current 1-year rule will be around for our entire lifetimes.

next move is to the baseball rule

Also when looking at these numbers I can't get over Jake being the all-time scorer when he played with Beasley and Walker as a freshman. One, four, and six all on the same team on that freshman list, that team really underachieved.

[scottwildcat]

I don't think the current 1-year rule will be around for our entire lifetimes.

next move is to the baseball rule

Also when looking at these numbers I can't get over Jake being the all-time scorer when he played with Beasley and Walker as a freshman. One, four, and six all on the same team on that freshman list, that team really underachieved.

Do you think it will be the baseball rule? Silver seems to want to adopt an NFL-esq rule or so it seems.

[Pete]

I don't think the current 1-year rule will be around for our entire lifetimes.

next move is to the baseball rule

Also when looking at these numbers I can't get over Jake being the all-time scorer when he played with Beasley and Walker as a freshman. One, four, and six all on the same team on that freshman list, that team really underachieved.

Do you think it will be the baseball rule? Silver seems to want to adopt an NFL-esq rule or so it seems.

Most of the analysts I have read seem to think the NFL rule will come into effect.  That would still be better than the current rule, but I prefer the baseball rule.

However, I bet we'll see plenty of guys stick around for a third year (or fourth) who THOUGHT that they'd go pro after their first year, if the current system was in place.  Sophomore slumps will get plenty of them.

[scottwildcat]

What rule helps K-State the most?

[MakeItRain]

I don't think the current 1-year rule will be around for our entire lifetimes.

next move is to the baseball rule

Also when looking at these numbers I can't get over Jake being the all-time scorer when he played with Beasley and Walker as a freshman. One, four, and six all on the same team on that freshman list, that team really underachieved.

Do you think it will be the baseball rule? Silver seems to want to adopt an NFL-esq rule or so it seems.

The players association gets the final decision, the league will do whatever the union wants when it comes to this issue. I think they will go to the baseball rule because it is a compromise, the players are somewhat split on this issue.

[michigancat]

I think there should be no rule.

[scottwildcat]

I don't think the current 1-year rule will be around for our entire lifetimes.

next move is to the baseball rule

Also when looking at these numbers I can't get over Jake being the all-time scorer when he played with Beasley and Walker as a freshman. One, four, and six all on the same team on that freshman list, that team really underachieved.

Do you think it will be the baseball rule? Silver seems to want to adopt an NFL-esq rule or so it seems.

The players association gets the final decision, the league will do whatever the union wants when it comes to this issue. I think they will go to the baseball rule because it is a compromise, the players are somewhat split on this issue.

What rule benefits K-State and our mission to be competitive? I think the baseball rule is the worst possible rule for us.

[Pete]

I think there should be no rule.

NO ONE GIVES A crap WHAT YOU THINK SAN FRANCISCO HIPPIE!

[star seed 7]

I think there should be no rule.

Absolutely, there is no need in basketball

[Pete]

What rule benefits K-State and our mission to be competitive? I think the baseball rule is the worst possible rule for us.

I agree, those we play against will be stronger as a result.

[scottwildcat]

If the baseball rule is the rule that is adopted it will be the end of competitive college basketball imo


edit: that is a little extreme but it will be bad I think.

[Pete]

I think there should be no rule.

Absolutely, there is no need in basketball

Agreed.  If a dumbass kid wants to forgo college and risk not making the NBA, it's his right, IMO. 

It's funny, I know all these uber capitalist KU alumns who are vehemently against letting players go pro out of high school and give their pinky fingers for the baseball rule.  It's like they only care about those ideals when they suit their own interests.  I'm probably just misunderstanding them, because surely they wouldn't be like that.

[MakeItRain]

I'm confused as to why the baseball rule, the NFL rule, or no rule would effect most CBB teams in more of a negative manner than the current rule. With one notable exception, the one and dones have had a pretty small impact on who wins a championship. There are over 1100 players in just the top 7 conferences alone, the name of the game is still evaluation and development, you have to stretch your mind pretty far to conclude that this would change because 3 or 4 kids a year never step foot on a campus and another 3 or 4 kids stay 3 years instead of 2.

[Trim]

I think there should be no rule.

You're correct!

[MakeItRain]

I think there should be no rule.

You're correct!

I don't agree. There are plenty of industries that have minimum requirements, why should sports be any different?