Yay, Maps!

[Saulbadguy]

Aferica

EXCELLENT

[asava]

this is a little off topic, but it seems like the only industry that is capable of actually forcing its consumers to buy its media is the gaming industry. granted its fairly easy to find rips of computer driven games, but it seems a little harder when you switch to xbox or ps3. is this true, or am i completely off base? could the music or movie industry learn from gaming?

[Saulbadguy]

this is a little off topic, but it seems like the only industry that is capable of actually forcing its consumers to buy its media is the gaming industry. granted its fairly easy to find rips of computer driven games, but it seems a little harder when you switch to xbox or ps3. is this true, or am i completely off base? could the music or movie industry learn from gaming?

360 is easy to hax0r but your console will probably get banned from X-Box Live so it's not worth it.  PS3 is tougher but again you run the same risk.

Another thing is DLC probably won't work.

Hell, the gaming industry is also making sure that not only do you buy the game, you buy it NEW (not used).  They are including codes for DLC in the box that only work once.

[asava]

this is a little off topic, but it seems like the only industry that is capable of actually forcing its consumers to buy its media is the gaming industry. granted its fairly easy to find rips of computer driven games, but it seems a little harder when you switch to xbox or ps3. is this true, or am i completely off base? could the music or movie industry learn from gaming?

360 is easy to hax0r but your console will probably get banned from X-Box Live so it's not worth it.  PS3 is tougher but again you run the same risk.

Another thing is DLC probably won't work.

Hell, the gaming industry is also making sure that not only do you buy the game, you buy it NEW (not used).  They are including codes for DLC in the box that only work once.

gamerz getting pwnd.

[pissclams]

this is a little off topic, but it seems like the only industry that is capable of actually forcing its consumers to buy its media is the gaming industry. granted its fairly easy to find rips of computer driven games, but it seems a little harder when you switch to xbox or ps3. is this true, or am i completely off base? could the music or movie industry learn from gaming?

360 is easy to hax0r but your console will probably get banned from X-Box Live so it's not worth it.  PS3 is tougher but again you run the same risk.

Another thing is DLC probably won't work.

Hell, the gaming industry is also making sure that not only do you buy the game, you buy it NEW (not used).  They are including codes for DLC in the box that only work once.

there's nothing that forces anyone to download maps.  it's completely voluntary and you can certainly go online and not notice any impact to your gaming experience if you choose not to download them.

there's also nothing to stop me from going to EB Games and buying a used copy of MW2 and playing it on or offline.  misconceptions abound.

[Saulbadguy]

this is a little off topic, but it seems like the only industry that is capable of actually forcing its consumers to buy its media is the gaming industry. granted its fairly easy to find rips of computer driven games, but it seems a little harder when you switch to xbox or ps3. is this true, or am i completely off base? could the music or movie industry learn from gaming?

360 is easy to hax0r but your console will probably get banned from X-Box Live so it's not worth it.  PS3 is tougher but again you run the same risk.

Another thing is DLC probably won't work.

Hell, the gaming industry is also making sure that not only do you buy the game, you buy it NEW (not used).  They are including codes for DLC in the box that only work once.

there's nothing that forces anyone to download maps.  it's completely voluntary and you can certainly go online and not notice any impact to your gaming experience if you choose not to download them.

there's also nothing to stop me from going to EB Games and buying a used copy of MW2 and playing it on or offline.  misconceptions abound.

I think you misunderstood my post.  I was pointing out that if you hack your console, you probably won't be able to play online, and probably won't be able to use DLC.

I also pointed out that publishers are starting to package DLC codes in the box for games for free, but charge you if you want to buy them separately.  This is an attempt to curb used games sales by adding extra incentive to buying new games.  For instance Mass Effect 2 came bundled with the "Cerebus Network", which you would have to pay for just for the ability to get new DLC if you bought used.

[OK_Cat]

sounds like a lot of bitching for $15.

[Saulbadguy]

this is a little off topic, but it seems like the only industry that is capable of actually forcing its consumers to buy its media is the gaming industry. granted its fairly easy to find rips of computer driven games, but it seems a little harder when you switch to xbox or ps3. is this true, or am i completely off base? could the music or movie industry learn from gaming?

360 is easy to hax0r but your console will probably get banned from X-Box Live so it's not worth it.  PS3 is tougher but again you run the same risk.

Another thing is DLC probably won't work.

Hell, the gaming industry is also making sure that not only do you buy the game, you buy it NEW (not used).  They are including codes for DLC in the box that only work once.

gamerz getting pwnd.

Eh - I don't think that.  I think the value is there paying $59.99 for a new game.  For 15-30 hours of entertainment that is cheap.  Cheaper than a movie, sporting event, concert, or even buying a movie/cd.

I also think back to the days where certain Super Nintendo games were 50-60 bucks, so prices really haven't increased too much over the years.

[pissclams]

this is a little off topic, but it seems like the only industry that is capable of actually forcing its consumers to buy its media is the gaming industry. granted its fairly easy to find rips of computer driven games, but it seems a little harder when you switch to xbox or ps3. is this true, or am i completely off base? could the music or movie industry learn from gaming?

360 is easy to hax0r but your console will probably get banned from X-Box Live so it's not worth it.  PS3 is tougher but again you run the same risk.

Another thing is DLC probably won't work.

Hell, the gaming industry is also making sure that not only do you buy the game, you buy it NEW (not used).  They are including codes for DLC in the box that only work once.

there's nothing that forces anyone to download maps.  it's completely voluntary and you can certainly go online and not notice any impact to your gaming experience if you choose not to download them.

there's also nothing to stop me from going to EB Games and buying a used copy of MW2 and playing it on or offline.  misconceptions abound.

I think you misunderstood my post.  I was pointing out that if you hack your console, you probably won't be able to play online, and probably won't be able to use DLC.

I also pointed out that publishers are starting to package DLC codes in the box for games for free, but charge you if you want to buy them separately.  This is an attempt to curb used games sales by adding extra incentive to buying new games.  For instance Mass Effect 2 came bundled with the "Cerebus Network", which you would have to pay for just for the ability to get new DLC if you bought used.

the majority of DLC is worthless crap anyways.  really the only thing worth having is the maps for games like MW2 and the songs for Rock Band.  people buying game skins/etc deserve to be ripped off.  there's nothing wrong with game publishers including "incentives" with their games, I usually throw mine away but whatevs

[Saulbadguy]

this is a little off topic, but it seems like the only industry that is capable of actually forcing its consumers to buy its media is the gaming industry. granted its fairly easy to find rips of computer driven games, but it seems a little harder when you switch to xbox or ps3. is this true, or am i completely off base? could the music or movie industry learn from gaming?

360 is easy to hax0r but your console will probably get banned from X-Box Live so it's not worth it.  PS3 is tougher but again you run the same risk.

Another thing is DLC probably won't work.

Hell, the gaming industry is also making sure that not only do you buy the game, you buy it NEW (not used).  They are including codes for DLC in the box that only work once.

there's nothing that forces anyone to download maps.  it's completely voluntary and you can certainly go online and not notice any impact to your gaming experience if you choose not to download them.

there's also nothing to stop me from going to EB Games and buying a used copy of MW2 and playing it on or offline.  misconceptions abound.

I think you misunderstood my post.  I was pointing out that if you hack your console, you probably won't be able to play online, and probably won't be able to use DLC.

I also pointed out that publishers are starting to package DLC codes in the box for games for free, but charge you if you want to buy them separately.  This is an attempt to curb used games sales by adding extra incentive to buying new games.  For instance Mass Effect 2 came bundled with the "Cerebus Network", which you would have to pay for just for the ability to get new DLC if you bought used.

the majority of DLC is worthless crap anyways.  really the only thing worth having is the maps for games like MW2 and the songs for Rock Band.  people buying game skins/etc deserve to be ripped off.  there's nothing wrong with game publishers including "incentives" with their games, I usually throw mine away but whatevs

I agree, nothing wrong with it.  Agree w/ the DLC thing too, I generally don't bother with it.