I can't believe he said it again

[kso_FAN]

Bill is responsible for 100% of the offense, and everything else, unless we're saying there's a secret agreement in place where we pretend Bill is the head coach, but in reality he's just the face and consultant of the program and we're actually employing Dimel as offense head coach and so on.

Of course he's ultimately responsible. I'm just not sure that Bill has the final say on the offense/play calls/personnel as in the past.

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Bill is responsible for 100% of the offense, and everything else, unless we're saying there's a secret agreement in place where we pretend Bill is the head coach, but in reality he's just the face and consultant of the program and we're actually employing Dimel as offense head coach and so on.

Of course he's ultimately responsible. I'm just not sure that Bill has the final say on the offense/play calls/personnel as in the past.

If he's ultimately responsible, he has the final say.  Like, if Dimel doesn't do things the way Bill wants them done, he can tell Dimel to get right or leave.  So I guess Dimel has the final say at a particular moment, until Bill tells him otherwise.

[sys]

it doesn't seem far-fetched to me to think that he's given his coordinator free-rein on play calling and personnel changes, but can't stop himself from bitching about it in the post game.

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it doesn't seem far-fetched to me to think that he's given his coordinator free-rein on play calling and personnel changes

That's very far-fetched.  Is it unlimited?  What prevents OBz from taking the reins back in this scenario?

[sys]

That's very far-fetched.  Is it unlimited?  What prevents OBz from taking the reins back in this scenario?

well, assuming that at some point he offered that power to dimel, why would he have changed his mind about letting him exercise that power?

i guess i'm under the impression that lots of o and d coordinators operate with that kind of freedom.

[_33]

Should I be hating Snyder AND Dimel for this?  So far I've just been hating Snyder for allowing Dimel to be stupid but if I need to hate Dimel also I will.

[kso_FAN]

That's very far-fetched.  Is it unlimited?  What prevents OBz from taking the reins back in this scenario?

well, assuming that at some point he offered that power to dimel, why would he have changed his mind about letting him exercise that power?

i guess i'm under the impression that lots of o and d coordinators operate with that kind of freedom.

You are correct. Snyder's d coordinators have always had more freedom, it's just weird that his o coordinators might as well. And if he gave it up, I don't think he'd take it back.

[steve dave]

He should give it to me then. Or somebody who's not a complete dumbass anyway.

[ksupamplemousse]

I don't really care whether Bill has given over control of the play calling or not, someone is calling the plays and making personnel decisions. Whoever is making these decisions has mumped up a fair amount this year. Today is a perfect example. Waters is not better than Sams at completing short-intermediate passes, and Sams is by far the better runner. Since we weren't going to go over the top today because of their defensive alignment, then why doesn't Sams take the majority of the snaps? That is what really chaps my ass. Play the 2 QB system, whatever. Just play to each QB's strengths, I don't think that's too much to ask, and it doesn't take a coaching legend to figure out what those strengths are for both players.

[_33]

That's very far-fetched.  Is it unlimited?  What prevents OBz from taking the reins back in this scenario?

well, assuming that at some point he offered that power to dimel, why would he have changed his mind about letting him exercise that power?

i guess i'm under the impression that lots of o and d coordinators operate with that kind of freedom.

You are correct. Snyder's d coordinators have always had more freedom, it's just weird that his o coordinators might as well. And if he gave it up, I don't think he'd take it back.

Yeah it's not like Bill to make a decision and immediately regret it and take it back.

[sys]

Yeah it's not like Bill to make a decision and immediately regret it and take it back.

 

[ednksu]

I'm sure I'll get castigated for this, but at time throughout this year our play calling has been so manic I've wondered if we've had two play callers or even two game plans per QB.  I wonder if Bill does step into certain situations to override calls in game. 

[kso_FAN]

I don't really care whether Bill has given over control of the play calling or not, someone is calling the plays and making personnel decisions. Whoever is making these decisions has mumped up a fair amount this year. Today is a perfect example. Waters is not better than Sams at completing short-intermediate passes, and Sams is by far the better runner. Since we weren't going to go over the top today because of their defensive alignment, then why doesn't Sams take the majority of the snaps? That is what really chaps my ass. Play the 2 QB system, whatever. Just play to each QB's strengths, I don't think that's too much to ask, and it doesn't take a coaching legend to figure out what those strengths are for both players.

Teams haven't defended both QBs the same since the middle of the season. Sams wasn't going to get 6 in the box vs spread formations like Waters did at the same frequency. KU would've made Sams throw under pressure to win it and taken away the run.

I'm actually surprised they seemingly gave us the running game like they did. Granted, KU doesn't have the players in their front 7 like OU does, but I thought they would've been more aggressive on defense and taken their chances with pressuring Waters and making him beat them, especially given how terrible their offense is.

[MakeItRain]

I'm sure I'll get castigated for this, but at time throughout this year our play calling has been so manic I've wondered if we've had two play callers or even two game plans per QB.  I wonder if Bill does step into certain situations to override calls in game.

Yes, you'll get castigated for expressing a viewpoint already expressed about 20 times in this thread

[star seed 7]

I don't really care whether Bill has given over control of the play calling or not, someone is calling the plays and making personnel decisions. Whoever is making these decisions has mumped up a fair amount this year. Today is a perfect example. Waters is not better than Sams at completing short-intermediate passes, and Sams is by far the better runner. Since we weren't going to go over the top today because of their defensive alignment, then why doesn't Sams take the majority of the snaps? That is what really chaps my ass. Play the 2 QB system, whatever. Just play to each QB's strengths, I don't think that's too much to ask, and it doesn't take a coaching legend to figure out what those strengths are for both players.

Teams haven't defended both QBs the same since the middle of the season. Sams wasn't going to get 6 in the box vs spread formations like Waters did at the same frequency. KU would've made Sams throw under pressure to win it and taken away the run.

I'm actually surprised they seemingly gave us the running game like they did. Granted, KU doesn't have the players in their front 7 like OU does, but I thought they would've been more aggressive on defense and taken their chances with pressuring Waters and making him beat them, especially given how terrible their offense is.

that sounds more like a strategy to stop waters than sams.  waters is just like heaps, a bad INT waiting to happen.

[ednksu]

Hadn't seen anyone else purpose two entirely different game plans, possibly controlled by different coaches MiR. 


Although I do like the point about control freak narrative to no control over the O narrative.

[kso_FAN]

I don't really care whether Bill has given over control of the play calling or not, someone is calling the plays and making personnel decisions. Whoever is making these decisions has mumped up a fair amount this year. Today is a perfect example. Waters is not better than Sams at completing short-intermediate passes, and Sams is by far the better runner. Since we weren't going to go over the top today because of their defensive alignment, then why doesn't Sams take the majority of the snaps? That is what really chaps my ass. Play the 2 QB system, whatever. Just play to each QB's strengths, I don't think that's too much to ask, and it doesn't take a coaching legend to figure out what those strengths are for both players.

Teams haven't defended both QBs the same since the middle of the season. Sams wasn't going to get 6 in the box vs spread formations like Waters did at the same frequency. KU would've made Sams throw under pressure to win it and taken away the run.

I'm actually surprised they seemingly gave us the running game like they did. Granted, KU doesn't have the players in their front 7 like OU does, but I thought they would've been more aggressive on defense and taken their chances with pressuring Waters and making him beat them, especially given how terrible their offense is.

that sounds more like a strategy to stop waters than sams.  waters is just like heaps, a bad INT waiting to happen.

He was early in the year, but has been fine in Big 12 play. To say he's just like Heaps is ridiculous.

[CNS]

If bill is letting dimel do this then bill is a shitty mentor.  For a guy that literally helped create a state wide mentoring program, that seems unlikely.  I think him saying the sams bullshit is just a minimilistic effort he gives during post games rather than telling fans to eff off and let him do what he does.

[kso_FAN]

I think him saying the sams bullshit is just a minimilistic effort he gives during post games rather than telling fans to eff off and let him do what he does.

This is entirely possible.

[MakeItRain]

Hadn't seen anyone else purpose two entirely different game plans, possibly controlled by different coaches MiR. 


Although I do like the point about control freak narrative to no control over the O narrative.

I was rude and unnecessary. I am sorry ednksu

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That's very far-fetched.  Is it unlimited?  What prevents OBz from taking the reins back in this scenario?

well, assuming that at some point he offered that power to dimel, why would he have changed his mind about letting him exercise that power?

i guess i'm under the impression that lots of o and d coordinators operate with that kind of freedom.

You are correct. Snyder's d coordinators have always had more freedom, it's just weird that his o coordinators might as well. And if he gave it up, I don't think he'd take it back.

He might not, because he's the weirdo who never fired an assistant or whatever and I guess is afraid of having the talk with a staff member, but he can.  He can choose to do so.  He has delegated those powers at this point to staff, and has chosen to leave them with the staff.  He's responsible, and is correct when he says that Sams not playing is his mistake.

[catzacker]

If bill is letting dimel do this then bill is a shitty mentor.  For a guy that literally helped create a state wide mentoring program, that seems unlikely.  I think him saying the sams bullshit is just a minimilistic effort he gives during post games rather than telling fans to eff off and let him do what he does.

This.  It is a way to calm the waters. He is patronizing the eff out of his mostly mouth breathing fan base.

[scottwildcat]

I think him saying the sams bullshit is just a minimilistic effort he gives during post games rather than telling fans to eff off and let him do what he does.

This is entirely possible.

Was thinking this was the case while pondering the quote on the drive home.

[Emo EMAW]

You guys are confusing responsibility with accountability.

[MakeItRain]

I think him saying the sams bullshit is just a minimilistic effort he gives during post games rather than telling fans to eff off and let him do what he does.

This is entirely possible.

Was thinking this was the case while pondering the quote on the drive home.

Are we still thinking this after the additional quotes trim posted, or are we rolling with now Snyder is a pathological liar?