Shockers

[sunny_cat]

I watched, not impressed.

Still haven't watched. I'll never care about mid-majors. They seem so insignificant when you go to titletown U.

[MakeItRain]

You know you've arrived among the elite when you're giddy about getting a win against Indiana State

Final Four last season and undefeated this season, tho

Yeah they've earned this, it's pretty tough to hate on them with any creditability. They could be the first 1 to lose to a 16 but it wouldn't diminish what they accomplished to that point. The mid-major schedule thing is stupid, as evidenced by how rare it is for any program to have a run like this. WSU has high major. talent in a mid major conference.  The last two mid majors to make runs like this, St. Joseph's and UNLV, had multiple NBA players.

[Sandstone Outcropping]

They need to get more big-timey commercials during their broadcasts. A whole lot of commercials for the Terra Haute Holiday Inn last night. 

[TownieCat]

A 1-loss SDSU would be more deserving of a 1 seed than an undefeated WSU, and the committee won't give two mid-major conference schools a 1 seed.

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

Their best win is @ Saint Louis. I don't think people realize how shitty the MVC is.

[sunny_cat]

Their best win is @ Saint Louis. I don't think people realize how shitty the MVC is.

Isn't SLU ranked 13 or somethiing?

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

Their best win is @ Saint Louis. I don't think people realize how shitty the MVC is.

Isn't SLU ranked 13 or somethiing?

Yes, it's a quality win. But they're just beating up on bad teams in conference play. Half the MVC is below .500 overall.

[sunny_cat]

Their best win is @ Saint Louis. I don't think people realize how shitty the MVC is.

Isn't SLU ranked 13 or somethiing?

Yes, it's a quality win. But they're just beating up on bad teams in conference play. Half the MVC is below .500 overall.

Still, it's hard for any team to go undefeated no matter how pud the competition. They have to win on their worst nights on the road.

[420seriouscat69]

I still think they're pretty good tho and you can't punish them with their ranking, cause they're undefeated in a crappy league. Mainly cause they're coming off a final four run as well.

[BIG APPLE CAT]

this wouldn't even be a topic if Creighton would have just stayed put.

[catzacker]

WSU is just punishing the GWAL this year.  But I think their road game @ Bishop Carroll will give them some trouble.

[pissclams]

undefeated is undefeated.  st joe's got the 1 seed when they went 27-0 and so should wsu.

[Trim]

Pretty indifferent about the actual basketball aspect, but nothing will stop me mocking wichita shockermania.

[steve dave]

Pretty indifferent about the actual basketball aspect, but nothing will stop me mocking wichita shockermania.

yes this

[TownieCat]

undefeated is undefeated.  st joe's got the 1 seed when they went 27-0 and so should wsu.

That St Joes team had two 1st round picks and the A10 was a 4 bid league that year. Not exactly an apples to apples comparison just because they are from mid major conferences.

And fwiw, they were blown out by 20 in their conf tourney game and still got a 1. If WSU gets blown out by 20 in the MVC tourney they would drop to a 3.

[Cartierfor3]

I agree that they've earned their ranking and seed, however when I watched them, they didn't impress me that much.

[ydarg2012]

The thing that kept popping up in my head last night is how far do they fall with just one loss? I think that is the tell for how respectable their season actually is.  I think they might drop into the upper teens if not twenties at that point.

[Cartierfor3]

The thing that kept popping up in my head last night is how far do they fall with just one loss? I think that is the tell for how respectable their season actually is.  I think they might drop into the upper teens if not twenties at that point.

They'd fall to like somewhere between 8-12

[Trim]

The thing that kept popping up in my head last night is how far do they fall with just one loss? I think that is the tell for how respectable their season actually is.  I think they might drop into the upper teens if not twenties at that point.

You should think about other things at night.

[ydarg2012]

True, but growing up in Kansas and in the Wichita Metro area has always given me a desire to cheer on the Shockers.  But at the same time I find it intriguing the difference in importance between number crunching (all that kenpom stuff) and that hallowed 0 to the right of the hyphen. 

[Spracne]

True, but growing up in Kansas and in the Wichita Metro area has always given me a desire to cheer on the Shockers.  But at the same time I find it intriguing the difference in importance between number crunching (all that kenpom stuff) and that hallowed 0 to the right of the hyphen.

I've never heard someone refer to city you grew up in as the "Wichita Metro."    "I live in the Wichita metro, just head to the outskirts then drive through 40 miles of mostly unincorporated farmland. BOOM, your at my house."

[sonofdaxjones]

True, but growing up in Kansas and in the Wichita Metro area has always given me a desire to cheer on the Shockers.  But at the same time I find it intriguing the difference in importance between number crunching (all that kenpom stuff) and that hallowed 0 to the right of the hyphen.

I've never heard someone refer to city you grew up in as the "Wichita Metro."    "I live in the Wichita metro, just head to the outskirts then drive through 40 miles of mostly unincorporated farmland. BOOM, your at my house."

The Wichita Metropolitan Statistical Area consists of 4 counties and over 600K people.

[Spracne]

True, but growing up in Kansas and in the Wichita Metro area has always given me a desire to cheer on the Shockers.  But at the same time I find it intriguing the difference in importance between number crunching (all that kenpom stuff) and that hallowed 0 to the right of the hyphen.

I've never heard someone refer to city you grew up in as the "Wichita Metro."    "I live in the Wichita metro, just head to the outskirts then drive through 40 miles of mostly unincorporated farmland. BOOM, your at my house."

The Wichita Metropolitan Statistical Area consists of 4 counties and over 600K people.

...and the place in question is not in one of those 4 counties.

[ydarg2012]

True, but growing up in Kansas and in the Wichita Metro area has always given me a desire to cheer on the Shockers.  But at the same time I find it intriguing the difference in importance between number crunching (all that kenpom stuff) and that hallowed 0 to the right of the hyphen.

I've never heard someone refer to city you grew up in as the "Wichita Metro."    "I live in the Wichita metro, just head to the outskirts then drive through 40 miles of mostly unincorporated farmland. BOOM, your at my house."

The Wichita Metropolitan Statistical Area consists of 4 counties and over 600K people.

...and the place in question is not in one of those 4 counties.

Reno and Sedgewick touch. . .the news always included us in that area I thought. . .my what a lie I've been living under.

[steve dave]

take it to the cosmosphere thread dork