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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2010, 01:01:32 PM »
They're above average in NBA talent at best.  Not really good.

So, kenpom has them 6th in defense.  My issue is the same.  Pinpoint one aspect of defense that they're really good at. 

defensive rebounding

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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2010, 01:06:17 PM »
So, I guess I hate losing to them because, other than defense and having Hayward, they're not really good at anything.  It sucks just as much as before.

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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2010, 01:14:00 PM »
They made a lot of layups against us. It was like 07 @Nebraska out there at times (not to compare them to Doc's boys). So, they were really good at exploiting our defense and making open layups.

And they were lights out on defense. SOOOOO pissed off that they actually "neutralized" Pullen.

I'm pleading 06-07 Texas Tech and requesting the committee take our fatigue into account.
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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2010, 01:53:03 PM »
They're above average in NBA talent at best.  Not really good.

So, kenpom has them 6th in defense.  My issue is the same.  Pinpoint one aspect of defense that they're really good at. 

Fighting through/avoiding screens. Especially our sloppy screens.

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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #29 on: March 28, 2010, 02:17:15 PM »
I think getting out rebounded  36-27 and them committing 20 turnovers without us being able to rape them in transition was a real KITN for me    :bang:

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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #30 on: March 28, 2010, 02:40:56 PM »
You can't pinpoint one thing that they're really good at.

Shooting?  No.
Size?  No.
Speed?  No.
Playing mistake free?  Nope.
Playing smart?  No.

WTF? 


I think that's why it's called an upset.  Also, the reason I hate losing to Butler is because I hate losing to teams with a lot of white players. 

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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2010, 03:26:35 PM »
They hit their free throws, play great team defense, and they have a guy who is a legit NBA talent.  There's a reason why they've won 24 straight games, including wins over Syracuse, Xavier, Ohio State, and K-State.  Butler is good. 

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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #32 on: March 29, 2010, 06:58:44 AM »
Plus, now I have to avoid listening to all sports talk radio for a week because I can't take another "OMG WHAT A WONDERFUL STORY FOR BUTLER!"

Totally want Butler to get destroyed. But they'll probably be faves against MSU, which is disgusting.
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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #33 on: March 29, 2010, 08:44:25 AM »
Seriously.  No analyst can tell you why they're good with any moderate level of specificity.  It's like they're good because they drink a magic potion or something.  How can anyone not hate losing to them?

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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #34 on: March 29, 2010, 08:46:13 AM »
Seriously.  No analyst can tell you why they're good with any moderate level of specificity.  It's like they're good because they drink a magic potion or something.  How can anyone not hate losing to them?

They're very good at making you hate losing to them

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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #35 on: March 29, 2010, 09:38:14 AM »
they were v good at rebounding and making us settle for terrible shots.  they took away anything we wanted to do offensively.  also they shot the 3 very well against us.

most importantly they are very good at winning.  i love the Butler.  greatest slow pace team i have ever watched.


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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #36 on: March 29, 2010, 02:42:12 PM »
Seriously.  No analyst can tell you why they're good with any moderate level of specificity.  It's like they're good because they drink a magic potion or something.  How can anyone not hate losing to them?

They're very good at making you hate losing to them

Almost as good as Baylor. (GODDAMN I HATE LOSING TO rough ridin' BAYLOR  :curse:)
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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #37 on: March 29, 2010, 02:45:00 PM »
Seriously.  No analyst can tell you why they're good with any moderate level of specificity.  It's like they're good because they drink a magic potion or something.  How can anyone not hate losing to them?

They're very good at making you hate losing to them

Almost as good as Baylor. (GODDAMN I HATE LOSING TO rough ridin' BAYLOR  :curse:)

Good year for you then

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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #38 on: March 29, 2010, 02:47:15 PM »
I don't give a crap about Baylor.  But losing to CU is a real kick to the nads.   

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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #39 on: March 29, 2010, 02:49:23 PM »
I don't give a crap about Baylor.  But losing to CU is a real kick to the nads.   

Man, both of you guys had good years!  :eek:

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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #40 on: March 29, 2010, 03:07:10 PM »
I don't give a crap about Baylor.  But losing to CU is a real kick to the nads.   

Man, both of you guys had good years!  :eek:

Srsly. I barely even watched a game after the Big 12 tourney semifinal. Just sorta kept an eye on the bracket in case we met Baylor again in the finals (or in case that cheating bastard Drew somehow changed the bracket to get into our region  :curse:).
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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #41 on: April 03, 2010, 07:49:22 PM »
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@kpelton: 50 points on 57 possessions for Michigan State. Butler is putting on a defensive clinic in the tournament.

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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #42 on: April 03, 2010, 07:54:14 PM »
No one can say anything meaningful beyond "they play great defense."  It like rough ridin' magic.  That's what I hate.

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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #43 on: April 03, 2010, 08:23:59 PM »
bam! how close we were  :eek: we could very well have lost in a close hard-fought game to the unexpected national champs just like in 1977 and in 1988... we are champion-builders  :dunno:

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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #44 on: April 03, 2010, 08:48:04 PM »
No one can say anything meaningful beyond "they play great defense."  It like fracking magic.  That's what I hate.

Iknowright!  All they have are two pros, including a lottery pick, in their starting lineup.   All they do is d up and completely impose their style on their opponents, so unworthy of their wins.  If they could only have a flashy offense like BYU :excited:

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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #45 on: April 03, 2010, 08:58:40 PM »
Iknowright!  All they have are two pros, including a lottery pick, in their starting lineup.   All they do is d up and completely impose their style on their opponents, so unworthy of their wins.  If they could only have a flashy offense like BYU :excited:

Hey, dumbass.  Lots of teams have a lottery pick and impose their style on their opponents.  That doesn't explain crap.

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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #46 on: April 03, 2010, 09:16:23 PM »
Iknowright!  All they have are two pros, including a lottery pick, in their starting lineup.   All they do is d up and completely impose their style on their opponents, so unworthy of their wins.  If they could only have a flashy offense like BYU :excited:

Hey, dumbass.  Lots of teams have a lottery pick and impose their style on their opponents.  That doesn't explain crap.

Please tell me the "lots of teams" with 2 draft picks in their starting 5 who are as defensively imposing as Butler.  While searching for your answer ask yourself why having 2 NBAers is important to Butler's style of play as opposed to a team like Kentucky.

lol with the dumbass, I am completely blowing you up, and not because of some kind of wonkish stance.  It's because your position is so mindnumbingly stupid.  I give you props though for consistency.

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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #47 on: April 03, 2010, 09:18:16 PM »
Butler is "defensively imposing" because NCAA refs don't call hand checks anymore.  It's how they make up for their athleticism deficit.

Duke is going to annihilate them.
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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #48 on: April 03, 2010, 09:21:59 PM »
As I watch these games I keep expecting to see Tee Martin.  Tonight is making how we missed out on a chance at a NC only like I felt in 1998.  Granted, we would've had to win 2, but I can't help but watch and think we are better than any of the teams in Indy.

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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #49 on: April 03, 2010, 09:24:12 PM »
As I watch these games I keep expecting to see Tee Martin.  Tonight is making how we missed out on a chance at a NC only like I felt in 1998.  Granted, we would've had to win 2, but I can't help but watch and think we are better than any of the teams in Indy.

I think Duke or WVU would have beaten us.  Let's not forget that we started two players who not only are no help offensively, but actually are liabilities.