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Why I hate losing to Butler
« on: March 28, 2010, 11:10:26 AM »
You can't pinpoint one thing that they're really good at.

Shooting?  No.
Size?  No.
Speed?  No.
Playing mistake free?  Nope.
Playing smart?  No.

WTF? 


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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2010, 11:12:07 AM »
Their defense is fantastic.
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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2010, 11:12:22 AM »
they lit us up like a Christmas tree on the glass.  Game over.

But you are right.  winner of OSU/MSU will whip their ass and we will feel even worse.
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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2010, 11:14:46 AM »
I hate playing the "tired" card, but we did look tired . . . when you're tired you make dumb mistakes.  

If Sutton, JSam and Colon go 4 for 11 it's a different game.  

Also, hopefully Frank learns from yesterday because IMO that wasn't a great coaching performance.  

Really disappointed how they all but ignored CKelly in the second half, and how we let them kill us on the board.

Another shout out to the Thursday night refs for keeping Xavier in the game and causing 2 OT's.  
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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2010, 11:19:46 AM »
Also, Hayward is a first round draft pick.
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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2010, 11:21:50 AM »
They're not great at defense or rebounding.  That's just how they beat us. 

Also, they're not great at having NBA talent.
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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2010, 11:23:27 AM »
Quote from: chum1 on March 28, 2010, 11:21:50 AM
They're not great at defense or rebounding.  That's just how they beat us. 

Also, they're not great at having NBA talent.

No, they're truly great at defense.  And at having NBA talent make plays.
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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2010, 11:27:42 AM »
Quote from: michigancat on March 28, 2010, 11:12:07 AM
Their defense is fantastic.
we made their defense fantastic.  they're a mid-major, nothing more.
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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2010, 11:28:37 AM »
Quote from: pissclams on March 28, 2010, 11:27:42 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 28, 2010, 11:12:07 AM
Their defense is fantastic.
we made their defense fantastic.  they're a mid-major, nothing more.

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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2010, 11:36:38 AM »
Quote from: michigancat on March 28, 2010, 11:19:46 AM
Also, Hayward is a first round draft pick.

Mack is an NBA draft pick too.
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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2010, 11:44:00 AM »
They beat a 1 and 2 to earn the FF. They must have something.
But it should be obvious to anybody who watched yesterday's game, we just didn't have enough fuel in the tank. I hate losing that way. One more real player and not CM or Colon could have put us over the top.
I'm thinking the recruiting miss on Marcus Denmon really hurt. He would have been a third interchangeable guard and ready to step into Denis' shoes next year.
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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2010, 11:51:26 AM »
They're above average in NBA talent at best.  Not really good.

So, kenpom has them 6th in defense.  My issue is the same.  Pinpoint one aspect of defense that they're really good at. 
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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2010, 11:52:37 AM »
Quote from: chum1 on March 28, 2010, 11:51:26 AM
They're above average in NBA talent at best.  Not really good.

So, kenpom has them 6th in defense.  My issue is the same.  Pinpoint one aspect of defense that they're really good at. 
Guarding the perimeter, and denying entry passes down low.
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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2010, 12:01:18 PM »
Quote from: Chingon on March 28, 2010, 11:52:37 AM
Quote from: chum1 on March 28, 2010, 11:51:26 AM
They're above average in NBA talent at best.  Not really good.

So, kenpom has them 6th in defense.  My issue is the same.  Pinpoint one aspect of defense that they're really good at. 
Guarding the perimeter, and denying entry passes down low.

Yeah, this. Even if KSU hadn't been tired, the game likely would have been close because they're so good at harassing people both inside and outside. They were freaking everywhere.

Everything else, yeah they're average or above average.
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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2010, 12:04:29 PM »
They are 8th in the country in adjusted defensive eff.
No one has scored over 60 on them in the tournament
Hayward is a projected lottery pick
They beat a legit 1 and a legit 2 seed
They have won a million straight games
There is no OSU left in the tourney wtf are you talking about

JFC stop sounding like a bunch of uneducated crybabies
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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2010, 12:07:41 PM »
So what are you saying?  That they really should have been a 1 seed?  Bullshit.
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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2010, 12:10:24 PM »
Quote from: chum1 on March 28, 2010, 12:07:41 PM
So what are you saying?  That they really should have been a 1 seed?  Bullshit.

Should have been a 3 seed. G-Town? GTFOOMF
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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2010, 12:13:13 PM »
Quote from: chum1 on March 28, 2010, 12:07:41 PM
So what are you saying?  That they really should have been a 1 seed?  Bullshit.
no

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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2010, 12:17:15 PM »
Quote from: Chingon on March 28, 2010, 12:13:13 PM
Quote from: chum1 on March 28, 2010, 12:07:41 PM
So what are you saying?  That they really should have been a 1 seed?  Bullshit.
no

I was addressing they guy who thinks Butler is so obviously good that asking questions about them makes you a cry baby.
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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2010, 12:24:20 PM »
 :cheers:
Quote from: chum1 on March 28, 2010, 12:07:41 PM
So what are you saying?  That they really should have been a 1 seed?  Bullshit.

What I'm saying is your reasoning for why Butler isn't good is pretty dumb.  Your errors could have been avoided by reading something other than this site or watching Butler before Thursday night (although beating a 1 seed should have been the first tip that they are good).

Should K-State have won, of course, no reason to go full Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  They're good, they're in the final four and they have two very good wins to get there, doesn't hurt to acknowledge that.
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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2010, 12:29:37 PM »
I wasn't saying that they aren't good.  I was saying why I hate losing to them.  See thread title.
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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2010, 12:38:19 PM »
Quote from: chum1 on March 28, 2010, 12:29:37 PM
I wasn't saying that they aren't good.  I was saying why I hate losing to them.  See thread title.

Point is you are wrong about Butler, they are fantastic defensively and Hayward is a lottery pick.  Did you see that step back 3, pro move.
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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2010, 12:42:03 PM »
Quote from: michigancat on March 28, 2010, 11:12:07 AM
Their defense is fantastic.

Their black players are way smarter than our ghetto ass thugs.  And their coach doesnt have a slight case of downs syndrome either which greatly helped them.

Listening to martin speak should give every person who has mental defects hope.

Dumbest coach in the country

"Thats stupid and silly, thats just silly"

Yep folks, big 12 coach of the year.

College bball  :flush:
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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2010, 12:57:57 PM »
Quote from: Thread Killer on March 28, 2010, 12:42:03 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 28, 2010, 11:12:07 AM
Their defense is fantastic.

Their black players are way smarter than our ghetto ass thugs.  And their coach doesnt have a slight case of downs syndrome either which greatly helped them.

Listening to martin speak should give every person who has mental defects hope.

Dumbest coach in the country

"Thats stupid and silly, thats just silly"

Yep folks, big 12 coach of the year.

College bball  :flush:

This post is feminist
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Re: Why I hate losing to Butler
« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2010, 01:00:30 PM »
Quote from: The42Yardstick on March 28, 2010, 12:57:57 PM
Quote from: Thread Killer on March 28, 2010, 12:42:03 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 28, 2010, 11:12:07 AM
Their defense is fantastic.

Their black players are way smarter than our ghetto ass thugs.  And their coach doesnt have a slight case of downs syndrome either which greatly helped them.

Listening to martin speak should give every person who has mental defects hope.

Dumbest coach in the country

"Thats stupid and silly, thats just silly"

Yep folks, big 12 coach of the year.

College bball  :flush:

This post is feminist

Thats stupid and silly
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