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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2010, 09:52:06 AM »
Pullen can be totally taken out of his game by solid defenders and go MIA for long stretches.  It seems to be mental as well as physical for Jake.  I love him, he's heart, he's guts the whole bit.  But I think his game is still a little selfish, which is what Frank used to scream at him about.  The best thing Jake could do for a chance to play in the league would be to avg about 12 points and 6 dimes a game next year.  Pass first, shoot second.  He'll go early second round if he does that!

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2010, 12:45:41 PM »
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"If everybody comes back, it could be a great experience for us next year," Pullen said. "We have a lot of maturity and know what it takes to get here. We should be able to capitalize on that."

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2010, 02:00:03 PM »
Remember when Jake talked about being a one and done?  Yeah.  Same thing.

I was only able to find these references, but remember his quote independently.

http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=20790.0
http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=14248.0

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2010, 02:27:31 PM »
Remember when Jake talked about being a one and done?  Yeah.  Same thing.

I was only able to find these references, but remember his quote independently.

http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=20790.0
http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=14248.0

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #29 on: March 28, 2010, 03:28:13 PM »
The same arguments you guys are making for Pullen not going to the NBA are the same arguments we made for Sherron Collins.

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #30 on: March 28, 2010, 03:33:37 PM »
The same arguments you guys are making for Pullen not going to the NBA are the same arguments we made for Sherron Collins.

Collins was a low 2nd-round pick after last season?

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2010, 03:33:45 PM »
The same arguments you guys are making for Pullen not going to the NBA are the same arguments we made for Sherron Collins.

Sherron's a point though so they really aren't comparable as players.  If Jake can go first round he should go.

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2010, 03:33:53 PM »
difference being, our coach will make him go.

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #33 on: March 28, 2010, 03:36:03 PM »
The same arguments you guys are making for Pullen not going to the NBA are the same arguments we made for Sherron Collins.

Sherron was projected consistently higher than Pullen is.  That said, I don't lump Sherron as one of Self's dream killing victims.  Sherron and Pullen are both great college players, neither has a sure-thing long NBA career.
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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #34 on: March 28, 2010, 03:38:07 PM »
Yes, but Sherron was also a felon and had a civil law suit pending.

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #35 on: March 28, 2010, 03:40:28 PM »
Yes, but Sherron was also a felon and had a civil law suit pending.

True, he was probably told to get his act together by David Stern so as not to tarnish the image of the NBA.

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #36 on: March 28, 2010, 03:41:15 PM »
If Jake can go first round he should go.

yeah. without a doubt.

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #37 on: March 28, 2010, 03:45:48 PM »
Idiots Guide to the NBA Draft says
Any player that could be a First Rounder should leave college and take the money. Dumbasses.
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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #38 on: March 28, 2010, 03:47:45 PM »
Idiots Guide to the NBA Draft says
Any player could be a First Rounder should leave college and take the money. Dumbasses.

 :confused: i don't understand this post  :confused:

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #39 on: March 28, 2010, 03:49:49 PM »
Yes, but Sherron was also a felon and had a civil law suit pending.




Sherron is a felon?
 


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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #40 on: March 28, 2010, 03:52:18 PM »
The argument is stupid.  If he's a first rounder, Frank will force him to go. 

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #41 on: March 28, 2010, 03:57:46 PM »
The argument is stupid.  If he's a first rounder, Frank will force him to go. 

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #42 on: March 28, 2010, 04:01:08 PM »
The argument is stupid.  If he's a first rounder, Frank will force him to go. 

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It's also stupid because he's not a first rounder. I'd be surprised if he even got picked up in the 2nd round at this point. He'll be back next year.

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #43 on: March 28, 2010, 04:12:15 PM »
Yes, but Sherron was also a felon and had a civil law suit pending.




Sherron is a felon?
 


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Would have been if the Lawrence DA wasn't beholden to the University.  There was plenty of evidence to charge him with a felony.

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #44 on: March 28, 2010, 04:21:55 PM »
i dont think jake is going because the opportunities arent there for him this year. if you browse various mock drafts he isnt anywhere to be found even in the second round. im sure jake and frank will talk to some people and see but most likely they will see where teams want him to improve and he can do that his senior year.

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #45 on: March 29, 2010, 12:38:26 PM »
If Jake stays, he's pretty much a lock to get the season scoring record.  He now sits at 1506 points, 609 points behind Evans' 2115.  With a repeat of this year's 37 game season he'd need to average 16.5 PPG to surpass Evans.  Even with a season of only 34-35 games, he'd need to average less than 18 PPG.  This year he averaged 19.3 PPG>

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #46 on: March 29, 2010, 12:41:30 PM »
I think he'll struggle to get open looks next year without denis running the show.

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #47 on: March 29, 2010, 12:43:47 PM »
I think he'll struggle to get open looks next year without denis running the show.

Meh.  If the big men step up, they can run an inside-out game that should get him looks or else allow our posts to score a bajillion points a game.

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #48 on: March 29, 2010, 12:44:04 PM »
I think he'll struggle to get open looks next year without denis running the show.

Depends how good Kelly/Judge/Samuels become.  And how McGruder develops.  That is a valid concern though.

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #49 on: March 29, 2010, 12:45:09 PM »
I think he'll struggle to get open looks next year without denis running the show.
I think our inside game will help minimalize the loss of Denis. Think we'll see a decrease in his ppg if he ends up playing a lot at the point.