So, what does Doyel have to say?

[chum1]

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/13123090/exhausted-kansas-state-on-losing-end-of-game-scheduling

[j-dub]

best in the bis.

bonafide EMAW 

[michigancat]

[Cire]

completely true.  I give no credit to Butler at all for the win.

[OK_Cat]

why can't we get him to post here?  jfc

[MakeItRain]

Love Doyel, violently disagree with this talking point though.  Certainly didn't look fatigued on the defensive side.  It's tough to claim fatigue when you hold a team to 27 first half points, tough to claim fatigue when offensively they steadily got better as the game progressed.

[Cire]

Butler's offense sucks. 

[MakeItRain]

Butler's offense sucks. 

Good enough to make the Final Four.

48th in the country in adjusted Oeff, not great, not at all terrible

the tired talking point is rough ridin' terrible, something I'd expect to see on the Phog

[swish1]

Love Doyel, violently disagree with this talking point though.  Certainly didn't look fatigued on the defensive side.  It's tough to claim fatigue when you hold a team to 27 first half points, tough to claim fatigue when offensively they steadily got better as the game progressed.

dont they average 27 points a half?

[WildCatzPhreak]

Our guys probably were tired. 

But our team is well conditioned and we have a much deeper bench than them.  Not a legit excuse or I would be using it.

[MakeItRain]

Love Doyel, violently disagree with this talking point though.  Certainly didn't look fatigued on the defensive side.  It's tough to claim fatigue when you hold a team to 27 first half points, tough to claim fatigue when offensively they steadily got better as the game progressed.

dont they average 27 points a half?

they average 70 points a game Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), watch basketball before you address me

[Cire]

did you "not tired" guys actually watch us play this year?

[swish1]

Love Doyel, violently disagree with this talking point though.  Certainly didn't look fatigued on the defensive side.  It's tough to claim fatigue when you hold a team to 27 first half points, tough to claim fatigue when offensively they steadily got better as the game progressed.

dont they average 27 points a half?

they average 70 points a game Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), watch basketball before you address me

hahahaha

[MakeItRain]

did you "not tired" guys actually watch us play this year?

Wasn't aware that you could only be tired on one end of the floor, learn something new every day

[swish1]

did you "not tired" guys actually watch us play this year?

Wasn't aware that you could only be tired on one end of the floor, learn something new every day

i sure thought that when our guards were letting some scrub from butler blow by them that they looked tired.  it would lead to one of 3 results: 1) a blocked shot 2) a foul 3) two easy points for butler.  option #1 would more often than not also give them another possession.  the team came out flat and played flat.  whether it was because they were tired or not i have no idea.  our defensive rebounding was also atrocious something i would say was because we appeared tired.

[Cire]

don't try, makeitrain is blind and didn't really watch the game.  also, he's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

[Dr Rick Daris]

teams have to "play tired" every year. who cares if we were or weren't. kstate had a chance to win and didn't. end of story. great year. wish it could've lasted longer.

[MakeItRain]

did you "not tired" guys actually watch us play this year?

Wasn't aware that you could only be tired on one end of the floor, learn something new every day

i sure thought that when our guards were letting some scrub from butler blow by them that they looked tired.  it would lead to one of 3 results: 1) a blocked shot 2) a foul 3) two easy points for butler.  option #1 would more often than not also give them another possession.  the team came out flat and played flat.  whether it was because they were tired or not i have no idea.  our defensive rebounding was also atrocious something i would say was because we appeared tired.

I thought the rebounding effort was garbage, but I don't know how that can be attributed solely to fatigue.  I guess the only way KSU can play like crap is because they are tired.  I hope their mommies and daddies came into the locker room and gave them orange slices and Capri Sun.  I thought they started tight and if anything they got tired late in the game because they had to play uphill for 30 minutes because of the shitty/tight start.