Honorary Membership

[star seed 7]

I just don't get why some white people want to use the N-word so damn badly

is this really the issue?

I think its part of the issue in this article, not the overall bullying issue.  If a black friend came to me and said it was ok if I used the N-word, I wouldn't do it anyway.  Its risk/reward.  What benefit do I get out of it?  I feel guilty if I use it.  Maybe I get to feel like I'm getting away with something.  What if someone overhears or a ridiculous voicemail spreads across family and friends?  I get called a racist.  No thanks.  I am fine not using it.

Incognito is without a doubt a crap human being.  Generally, anybody white who wants to use that word is.

i can't think of an instance in general conversation where it would be needed or appropriate, so i agree with you 100 percent on that.

but, for conversation, i love rap music, and my 2 favorite comedians are black (chappelle and katt williams).  there is a certain elite goEMAWer who in conversation during a biggie song said it wasn't cool, to him, for a white guy to say the word when singing along.  that's fine with me because i'm a respectful person and treat that request just the same way i wouldn't say $!#* around my grandma.  I've had black friends in the past, however, that don't care one bit.  they know i'm not using anything in a hateful way, just listening some good music (or watching a hilarious dvd) and singing along the same as they are.  i don't feel as though i'm getting away with anything, or feel guilty in the least.  i'm fully capable of censoring my language around those that would be offended by it, but why do i need to if they are not offended by it?

i think context makes a large difference, if that makes me a huge racist, then so be it.

[star seed 7]

calling someone a half-(beep) piece of crap falls into the context of hateful, imho tho.

[CNS]

calling someone a half-(beep) piece of crap falls into the context of hateful, imho tho.

What if he rhymed it with something dope in the very next line and then ended the message with some beatboxing?

[star seed 7]

calling someone a half-(beep) piece of crap falls into the context of hateful, imho tho.

What if he rhymed it with something dope in the very next line and then ended the message with some beatboxing?

white rappers?   

[CNS]

calling someone a half-(beep) piece of crap falls into the context of hateful, imho tho.

What if he rhymed it with something dope in the very next line and then ended the message with some beatboxing?

white rappers?   

Surprised it only took two pgs to get all extra racist up in here.

[star seed 7]

calling someone a half-(beep) piece of crap falls into the context of hateful, imho tho.

What if he rhymed it with something dope in the very next line and then ended the message with some beatboxing?

white rappers?   

Surprised it only took two pgs to get all extra racist up in here.

 

[The Big Train]

I played baseball with a guy in JUCO that also played on the football team.  He didn't mind if other teammates used it around him which some of them did(I never did and don't because I don't see any use for it in any context) his only thing was it had to be ended with an A.  Would not be tolerated the other way.  I don't understand the appeal or being "cool" for using that kind of language.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

The fact that certain speech in this country is censored according to race is racist. The whole issue is ridiculous.

[slobber]

The fact that certain speech in this country is censored according to race is racist. The whole issue is ridiculous.

[sys]

The fact that certain speech in this country is censored according to race is racist. The whole issue is ridiculous.

i mostly agree, although perhaps not in exactly the way you mean (to be fair, i don't know how you mean it).  i find it both hilarious and a little pathetic how uncomfortable the word "n-word" makes white midwesterners, myself included.

[michigancat]

The fact that certain speech in this country is censored according to race is racist. The whole issue is ridiculous.

i mostly agree, although perhaps not in exactly the way you mean (to be fair, i don't know how you mean it).  i find it both hilarious and a little pathetic how uncomfortable the word "n-word" makes white midwesterners, myself included.

Why is it "pathetic"?

[Headinjun]

Confession:

I'm a little bit of a goof, and I have been a black comedy lover since I was a teen.

I do use th N word when repeating comedy jokes, and when acting like a complete dork who thinks he's in a SNL skit. 

But I would never use that word to describe someone. Never.


Am I wrong?

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

The fact that certain speech in this country is censored according to race is racist. The whole issue is ridiculous.

i mostly agree, although perhaps not in exactly the way you mean (to be fair, i don't know how you mean it).  i find it both hilarious and a little pathetic how uncomfortable the word "n-word" makes white midwesterners, myself included.

The word is offensive to me and should be to everyone, but until the people most offended by it stop saying it, the issue isn't worth discussion.

[michigancat]

The fact that certain speech in this country is censored according to race is racist. The whole issue is ridiculous.

i mostly agree, although perhaps not in exactly the way you mean (to be fair, i don't know how you mean it).  i find it both hilarious and a little pathetic how uncomfortable the word "n-word" makes white midwesterners, myself included.

The word is offensive to me and should be to everyone, but until the people most offended by it stop saying it, the issue isn't worth discussion.

The context makes all the difference. Why shouldn't it? Nothing we say is just "words".

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

The fact that certain speech in this country is censored according to race is racist. The whole issue is ridiculous.

i mostly agree, although perhaps not in exactly the way you mean (to be fair, i don't know how you mean it).  i find it both hilarious and a little pathetic how uncomfortable the word "n-word" makes white midwesterners, myself included.

The word is offensive to me and should be to everyone, but until the people most offended by it stop saying it, the issue isn't worth discussion.

The context makes all the difference. Why shouldn't it? Nothing we say is just "words".

I know what you're saying and I do understand, but to say Incognito should be vilified for using it in the same context that a black player does is racist. It seems that as big a douche as Incognito may be, his black teammates don't see him as a racist at all, and they probably know him best.

[michigancat]

The fact that certain speech in this country is censored according to race is racist. The whole issue is ridiculous.

i mostly agree, although perhaps not in exactly the way you mean (to be fair, i don't know how you mean it).  i find it both hilarious and a little pathetic how uncomfortable the word "n-word" makes white midwesterners, myself included.

The word is offensive to me and should be to everyone, but until the people most offended by it stop saying it, the issue isn't worth discussion.

The context makes all the difference. Why shouldn't it? Nothing we say is just "words".

I know what you're saying and I do understand, but to say Incognito should be vilified for using it in the same context that a black player does is racist. It seems that as big a douche as Incognito may be, his black teammates don't see him as a racist at all, and they probably know him best.

Incognito is a huge alpha dickhead. Obviously at least one black teammate had a problem with it, and I'm guessing more did but were afraid to speak up because of Incognito's personality and status in the locker room and with the front office.

[chum1]

Do honoraries need to worry about context?

[michigancat]

Do honoraries need to worry about context?

apparently they do

[chum1]

Do honoraries need to worry about context?

apparently they do

But not as much as non-honoraries?  And the same amount as black people?  Or less?

[michigancat]

I need more context to decide

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

The fact that certain speech in this country is censored according to race is racist. The whole issue is ridiculous.

i mostly agree, although perhaps not in exactly the way you mean (to be fair, i don't know how you mean it).  i find it both hilarious and a little pathetic how uncomfortable the word "n-word" makes white midwesterners, myself included.

The word is offensive to me and should be to everyone, but until the people most offended by it stop saying it, the issue isn't worth discussion.

The context makes all the difference. Why shouldn't it? Nothing we say is just "words".

I know what you're saying and I do understand, but to say Incognito should be vilified for using it in the same context that a black player does is racist. It seems that as big a douche as Incognito may be, his black teammates don't see him as a racist at all, and they probably know him best.

Incognito is a huge alpha dickhead. Obviously at least one black teammate had a problem with it, and I'm guessing more did but were afraid to speak up because of Incognito's personality and status in the locker room and with the front office.

No doubt. I'm sure there are a lot of guys on the team that dislike him. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be hanging out with him.

[chum1]

I need more context to decide

I think I'm starting to understand this relationship.  One's honorary status is just a subset of context rather than a non-context dependent characterisitc like race.  Otherwise, an honorary's status wouldn't change from group to group, but clearly that is not the case. 

[sys]

Why is it "pathetic"?

because it's symptomatic of a extremely racialized society, and of our (white midwesterners particularly) discomfort with being confronted with that fact.

[michigancat]

Why is it "pathetic"?

because it's symptomatic of a extremely racialized society, and of our (white midwesterners particularly) discomfort with being confronted with that fact.

I'm not sure what that really means.

[sys]

I'm not sure what that really means.

you can ask katkid when you get back from your hipster concert.