Briles > Snyder

[Rage Against the McKee]

This is a sad situation on many fronts. You have women who were victimized. That's awful. You have women who made bad choices and regretted them, equally awful. You have men who treated women badly and took something they weren't entitled to. Awful. You have a new president that will repeal much of the overreach of Title IX.. Think of that what you will. This I know. Baylor is a great, but imperfect institution. The events of the past few months will make her better. The recognition on campus of the problem of violence against women is a good thing. The crazy overreach of the DOE is bad and will be repealed. We made a great hire and I'm confident the days ahead will make us proud of our players. There will be some who err. They will be dealt with. We'll win as a football team, and as a university.

[Pete]

This is a sad situation on many fronts. You have women who were victimized. That's awful. You have women who made bad choices and regretted them, equally awful. You have men who treated women badly and took something they weren't entitled to. Awful. You have a new president that will repeal much of the overreach of Title IX.. Think of that what you will. This I know. Baylor is a great, but imperfect institution. The events of the past few months will make her better. The recognition on campus of the problem of violence against women is a good thing. The crazy overreach of the DOE is bad and will be repealed. We made a great hire and I'm confident the days ahead will make us proud of our players. There will be some who err. They will be dealt with. We'll win as a football team, and as a university.

My bet, is that those Baylor fans are right, that jack crap is going to to happen to them.  This is the absolute perfect time in America in the last 50 years to be a piece of crap and prosper.

[Joker]

I mean, you can put whatever you want in a lawsuit though. to play devils advocate, everyone is acting like the allegations are the facts. they are just maybe the facts.

This is an important point.

[ChiComCat]

My brain is fried with this mess. The timing of these articles seems like an obvious attempt to wreck our recruiting class with unproven allegations to shock our commits. I don't believe that God cares who wins football games, but He does care about people. I'm praying for our new coaching staff as they do their best to combat these attacks.

[WildcatNkilt]

If everything in this lawsuit is true, then I think the Big 12 should kick Baylor out and bring Houston in.

[Dugout DickStone]

did a trainer really get free tuition for a coverup?

[Pete]

I wish I had a nickel for every time the phrase "suck it up, buttercup" has been used amongst Baylor alumni.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

I always wondered how they became so good, so fast.

[The Big Train]

Not that surprising, Texas school that gets good quickly after decades of being terrible. Only way they could change that

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

I mean, you can put whatever you want in a lawsuit though. to play devils advocate, everyone is acting like the allegations are the facts. they are just maybe the facts.

This is an important point.

Putting things in a lawsuit that aren't true is a good way to get suspended and sanctioned, tho.

[_33]

Hopefully they have to negate all of their 2012 wins and then we can hang a national championship banner.

[MadCat]

Hopefully they have to negate all of their 2012 wins and then we can hang a national championship banner.

I wish we had won the bowl game in that case... 

[RickRampus]

Whoa

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[manpow5]

IF, and  big If at that, what can we expect as punishment?  SMU death penalty? Briles banned? Any ideas?

[WildcatPower]

How can you guys think the NCAA believes that raping women is worse than raping kids?  If they do anything, it will be a slap on the wrist compared to what Penn State got.

52 alleged rapes. Coaches covering up. Administration covering it up.

This reeks worse than SMU's slush fund.

I don't know about you, but this situation is a full blown lack of institutional control.

[WildcatPower]

Unfortunately, I hate saying it in despise of NCAA & Baylor, but you're probably right. They only care about making money and not the integrity of the game or the students.

This is a perfect example of the NCAA (or the Big 12 for that matter) to intervene and drop the hammer on them and say "Hey, this $*!% is getting old quick. Give us that Pepper Hamilton report (in full, no redacted's), cease the posturing and hypocritical Mickey Mouse BS, and get your Title IX in order, or we'll just go to a different direction due to the sheer egregiousness of the misconducts that was/is occurring." And make it stick this time without any rescinds.

If Baylor still thinks they're untouchable (based on the way they're acting currently, other than throwing some guys under the bus), then just put the death penalty, "unequivocally", on the table as one of the sanctions. I'm not sure you could call Baylor's corrective actions "swift" or applied correctly/fairly to have the death penalty off the table at this point.

I been calling it for a while. This is a big problem that the Big XII and the NCAA cannot ignore now.

[ednksu]

This is a sad situation on many fronts. You have women who were victimized. That's awful. You have women who made bad choices and regretted them, equally awful. You have men who treated women badly and took something they weren't entitled to. Awful. You have a new president that will repeal much of the overreach of Title IX.. Think of that what you will. This I know. Baylor is a great, but imperfect institution. The events of the past few months will make her better. The recognition on campus of the problem of violence against women is a good thing. The crazy overreach of the DOE is bad and will be repealed. We made a great hire and I'm confident the days ahead will make us proud of our players. There will be some who err. They will be dealt with. We'll win as a football team, and as a university.

Just reread this.  Didnt mention it earlier, but the idea of being "entitled" to sex in a relationship is disturbing.  I wonder how much marital rape is happening in the Baylor alum community.

[POWL]

This is a sad situation on many fronts. You have women who were victimized. That's awful. You have women who made bad choices and regretted them, equally awful. You have men who treated women badly and took something they weren't entitled to. Awful. You have a new president that will repeal much of the overreach of Title IX.. Think of that what you will. This I know. Baylor is a great, but imperfect institution. The events of the past few months will make her better. The recognition on campus of the problem of violence against women is a good thing. The crazy overreach of the DOE is bad and will be repealed. We made a great hire and I'm confident the days ahead will make us proud of our players. There will be some who err. They will be dealt with. We'll win as a football team, and as a university.

Just reread this.  Didnt mention it earlier, but the idea of being "entitled" to sex in a relationship is disturbing.  I wonder how much marital rape is happening in the Baylor alum community.

My guess is they are trying to draw a line from the sacrament of marriage, which includes the phrase "self giving" to imply the entitled to sex thing ..........it is a weak argument, IMO

[deputy dawg]

More coming out, not looking good for Art Briles:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/big12/2017/02/02/baylor-sexual-assault-scandal-art-briles/97428036/

Briles and his staff "created a disciplinary black hole into which reports of misconduct such as drug use, physical assault, domestic violence, brandishing of guns, indecent exposure and academic fraud disappeared."

Does that put the finishing touch on the unhireability of Briles?  Knowing about it and doing nothing is bad enough, but concealment could put Briles personally at risk for civil litigation. 

[Dugout DickStone]

Briles texting about this is awfully bad for him.

[WildcatNkilt]

Briles will never get a division 1 head coaching job again. 

[Dugout DickStone]

I couldn't really do another victory lap, could I? 


Of course I could

[catastrophe]

So I guess Briles filed a libel suit and then quickly dismissed it right before the text messages came out?

[Big Sam]

Briles will never get a division 1 head coaching job again.

Technically true.

However, if this had happened with him at another school and not Baylor, and he were to be applying to Baylor without it ever having happened there, my guess is he could have got hired there.  Maybe.

With the mindset they had about issues.  Not sure what it would have taken for a red flag or two to be raised to keep them from chasing that football glory dream.

[manpow5]

So I guess Briles filed a libel suit and then quickly dismissed it right before the text messages came out?

Not sure when he put the suit out, but he pulled it as soon as he found out about the text messages. At least that is my understanding. Him pulling the libel suit just tells everyone that he definitely knew and he knows he's screwed. Kind of incriminated himself to the public by pulling it.