Briles > Snyder

[Steffy08]

Bible aggie is disgusting.  Briles should be bounced with Starr.

they might be disgusting but they're not dumb, briles will survive this

It's both disgusting and dumb.  The gig is over for Briles.  Even if they don't fire him, he can't be effective going forward.

i said baylor isn't dumb, and they're not.

Keeping Briles would be dumb.  The honeymoon is over; he lied, cheated, and swept under the rug to a nice little run.  But he won't be able to do that anymore; the spotlight will be hot.  Not to mention, he has lost support from a portion of the fan base.  No longer will his bs "ah shucks" schtick be charming and adorable......just creepy.

I would actually prefer the slow, painful death that will occur if they don't fire him.  It is what Briles and Baylor both deserve.  But I don't know what will happen; my best guess is that he will get fired.

none of the things that he's done matter to baylor's administration.  they can't afford to play by the rules, they're sitting on a $300 million dollar stadium that they just built.  if they were to fire their current coach/proven winner for breaking the rules, they have to follow that action up with a oscar weber "good guy" hire.  unfortunately for k-state hoops fans, that's not going to happen.

Dude, you're not getting what I am saying.  I'm not predicting whether he will get fired or not. Im saying that, if he doesn't, he will not continue to have the success he was having.  You said that if Baylor hires a new coach, he will have to play by the rules.  Same goes for Briles going forward at Baykor, except probably double.  I guarantee you that a program that was sweeping rapes under the rug is also recruiting dirty and complicit in steroid use.  It won't fly going forward.  So Baylor can either try to win clean with a new coach, or watch Briles slip into mediocrity when forced to play clean.  You say they can't afford to play by the rules.....but they can't afford not to, either.  They are screwed.  (Karma is a mother f'er.). I believe they will eventually come to this realization and cut bait with Briles, but I don't know for sure.

[pissclams]

fair enough, i just don't see the leopard changing his spots regardless of the direction his new university president gives him

[Steffy08]

Briles hasn't lost the fan base.

Just go check out the digusting baylorfans forums.  Those delusional idiots think UT is trying to steal Briles amongst other dumb crap. 

Briles will be staying in Waco.  The boosters that bought all the new trucks for their football players don't want him gone.

Bible aggie's disgusting fake piety is one of the reasons I hate them.  If Briles hadn't been winning then his ass would be out.  Since he has improved their recruiting and turned that loser school into a winner in football, they won't be getting rid of him. 

Ken Starr will get bounced as will some other non-important people, but Briles will get a pass.

Yes, the idiots on baylorfans are unbelievable, but that isn't reflective of the entire fan base.  Think if someone tried to gauge the ksu fan base based on this message board.  And, in any event, most people whose opinion really matters aren't posting on boards like us schmucks are.

I am quite sure that there are many people at Baylor who are now disgusted with Briles.  Even if that is just 10% of the base, it is still tough to win when 10% of the base hates you and is looking for reasons to can you.  Baylor is going to be down next year; can you imagine how the 10% would react if, say, Baylor lost to Osu early and then stumbled to a 7-5 season.

He has been permanently crippled by this scandal.  (Karma)

[kim carnes]

Steffy plz stfu

[WildcatNation]

Seriously, I think the Big 12 should take action and vote on giving them the boot. Baylor's reaction to all of this is unreal. Bring in Memphis, Cinci, or Colo St and get this disgusting school/fanbase out of here.

[sonofdaxjones]

The TCU vs Baylor hate fest is like Yale v Harvard but for dumb people. 

[pissclams]

The TCU vs Baylor hate fest is like Yale v Harvard but for dumb people. 

except it's not a tcu vs baylor hatefest.  it's an everyone vs. baylor hatefest and it always has been.

[Steffy08]

The TCU vs Baylor hate fest is like Yale v Harvard but for dumb people. 

except it's not a tcu vs baylor hatefest.  it's an everyone vs. baylor hatefest and it always has been.

This

[TCUHornedFrog]

Yes, the idiots on baylorfans are unbelievable, but that isn't reflective of the entire fan base.  Think if someone tried to gauge the ksu fan base based on this message board.  And, in any event, most people whose opinion really matters aren't posting on boards like us schmucks are.

I am quite sure that there are many people at Baylor who are now disgusted with Briles.  Even if that is just 10% of the base, it is still tough to win when 10% of the base hates you and is looking for reasons to can you.  Baylor is going to be down next year; can you imagine how the 10% would react if, say, Baylor lost to Osu early and then stumbled to a 7-5 season.

He has been permanently crippled by this scandal.  (Karma)

Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal, but none of the bible aggie alumni that I work with (3 or 4 of them) give a crap about this.  They just want the football team to stay good.

Ken Starr will fall on the sword.  Their AD might even fall on the sword.  Briles will live on and will continue to be a dirty eff. 

[420seriouscat69]

Pro tip: If it was your school too. You'd just want your football team to be good too. Did you give a crap that your starting QB lived in a mound of blow? Answer: No!

[TCUHornedFrog]

Pro tip: If it was your school too. You'd just want your football team to be good too. Did you give a crap that your starting QB lived in a mound of blow? Answer: No!

That's not what we're discussing.  Stay on topic please.

[chum1]

I think the subject has changed to Hubener being a coke head.

[ChiComCat]

I just want to make sure I am understanding your argument Steffy.  Baylor is demonstrably showing that they will not punish Briles or the football program despite damning allegations.  Because of this, they are going to try super hard to punish Briles and the football program in the future?  I don't see it.

[meow meow]

steffy should stick to the ins and outs of redshirts

[Steffy08]

I just want to make sure I am understanding your argument Steffy.  Baylor is demonstrably showing that they will not punish Briles or the football program despite damning allegations.  Because of this, they are going to try super hard to punish Briles and the football program in the future?  I don't see it.

The heat coming forward will be primarily from external sources, who didn't give a crap about Baylor before all of this.  But also from the minority of Baylor fans who are embarrassed by this POS.

The board of regents is like a 25-30 person board.  I'm sure there are a multitude of perspectives represented.  Look, I think the whole thing is disgusting; I don't think it would happen at KSU because there are principled people who would not let it get this far.  But I'm not willing to believe that there isn't a segment of the BU that can't see this for what it is.  Surely there are those people.  They probably just don't post as often on message boards. (Maybe they should.)  I really want to believe that anyway...

[Steffy08]

steffy should stick to the ins and outs of redshirts

Well, except I was 2-3 years ahead of this board on this issue.

I'm still not sure I completely understand the redshirt issue.  Just glad that Dante got one.

[ChiComCat]

I'm sure that some people want Briles out but if this type of scandal doesn't get it done, nothing will.  The power clearly lies with people that have chosen to let almost anything go and to sacrifice anybody at the university before him.  They aren't the people that are likely to be needling around the program looking for problems.

Also, lol @ any reputable university president taking the Baylor job after this.

[Rage Against the McKee]

steffy should stick to the ins and outs of redshirts

Well, except I was 2-3 years ahead of this board on this issue.

I'm still not sure I completely understand the redshirt issue.  Just glad that Dante got one.

It's pretty disturbing that you knew about these rapes 2-3 years ago and said nothing.

[pvegs]

Pro tip: If it was your school too. You'd just want your football team to be good too. Did you give a crap that your starting QB lived in a mound of blow? Answer: No!

Man, I really can't even understand what wacky is saying here. Boykin was on coke? Hubes was on coke? Former cat qbs were on coke? Purely a hypothetical? Now I know how ppl must feel reading my posts.

[420seriouscat69]

They're QB before Boykins was a drug addict, pvegs.

[Rage Against the McKee]

They're QB before Boykins was a drug addict, pvegs.

I just don't see that as a big deal.

[420seriouscat69]

They're QB before Boykins was a drug addict, pvegs.

I just don't see that as a big deal.

exactly

[Steffy08]

I'm sure that some people want Briles out but if this type of scandal doesn't get it done, nothing will.  The power clearly lies with people that have chosen to let almost anything go and to sacrifice anybody at the university before him.  They aren't the people that are likely to be needling around the program looking for problems.

Also, lol @ any reputable university president taking the Baylor job after this.

I agree that Briles would be emboldened if this were all playing out behind closed doors, but the public aspect of it changes the dynamics.

[Dugout DickStone]

If other fan bases judged ksu fans by this board they'd think ksu is just hot studs with boats

[catastrophe]

Boy, what a joke it would be if the school was like, "well the AD and president are gone because they knew what was going on in the football program, but the coach who is highest paid and closest to the action was clueless."