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Re: Sad and a hearty LOL . . .
« Reply #25 on: October 14, 2013, 02:23:40 PM »
That is not a hard call. It is obviously targeting. The spirt of the rule is to protect players from concussions.

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Re: Sad and a hearty LOL . . .
« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2013, 02:25:30 PM »
Well, good for Jake Waters' favorite team.

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« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2013, 03:01:30 PM »
Hit was dirty under the rules, its a shame the refs missed such an obvious call. At min it should have been 15.  Gif shows what could be ejectable targeting.
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Re: Sad and a hearty LOL . . .
« Reply #28 on: October 14, 2013, 03:40:34 PM »
Tuck factor on goEMAW is pretty much at an all-time high at this point in time.

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Re: Sad and a hearty LOL . . .
« Reply #29 on: October 14, 2013, 03:44:46 PM »
Hit was dirty under the rules, its a shame the refs missed such an obvious call. At min it should have been 15.  Gif shows what could be ejectable targeting.

if the roles were reversed you'd say it was a clean hit
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Re: Sad and a hearty LOL . . .
« Reply #30 on: October 14, 2013, 03:45:44 PM »
Has no one posted that the Big 12 suspended him for the first half of Baylor's next game?

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Re: Sad and a hearty LOL . . .
« Reply #31 on: October 14, 2013, 03:46:45 PM »
People just need to learn to block low. There really is no such thing as a "good clean hit" above the shoulders anymore and there really shouldn't be.

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« Reply #32 on: October 14, 2013, 03:50:35 PM »
People just need to learn to block low. There really is no such thing as a "good clean hit" above the shoulders anymore and there really shouldn't be.


so lets just go for his knees instead
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« Reply #33 on: October 14, 2013, 03:52:17 PM »
I didn't think it was a malicious or dirty hit, just a function of how the play ended up happening, was way to bang bang for it to be malicious. That being said by the rules it was targeting, and I don't think there was much up for debate until the refs didn't call it.
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Re: Sad and a hearty LOL . . .
« Reply #34 on: October 14, 2013, 03:52:54 PM »
Has no one posted that the Big 12 suspended him for the first half of Baylor's next game?

yeah. the reason the it got bumped last page.
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« Reply #35 on: October 14, 2013, 03:54:23 PM »
Leading with the crown of the helmet, targeting the head, or targeting a defenseless player like a QB in the pocket, a trailer etc. etc.  Are perfectly justifiable reasons for flags, ejections, suspensions etc. etc.

But when I see tha play, I see a lead with a shoulder on a defender trying to make a play on a ball carrier.   Just because a guy's head gets snapped back because he didn't have his head on a swivel like he should have, does not make it a dirty hit.

 

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« Reply #36 on: October 14, 2013, 03:55:04 PM »
People just need to learn to block low. There really is no such thing as a "good clean hit" above the shoulders anymore and there really shouldn't be.


so lets just go for his knees instead

Why not shoot for the chest?

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« Reply #37 on: October 14, 2013, 03:56:06 PM »
Leading with the crown of the helmet, targeting the head, or targeting a defenseless player like a QB in the pocket, a trailer etc. etc.  Are perfectly justifiable reasons for flags, ejections, suspensions etc. etc.

But when I see tha play, I see a lead with a shoulder on a defender trying to make a play on a ball carrier.   Just because a guy's head gets snapped back because he didn't have his head on a swivel like he should have, does not make it a dirty hit.

His head snapped back because the blocker launched himself into him and hit him directly on the head with his shoulder pad. It was clearly targeting, which is why the player is facing a suspension.

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« Reply #38 on: October 14, 2013, 03:58:11 PM »
Leading with the crown of the helmet, targeting the head, or targeting a defenseless player like a QB in the pocket, a trailer etc. etc.  Are perfectly justifiable reasons for flags, ejections, suspensions etc. etc.

But when I see tha play, I see a lead with a shoulder on a defender trying to make a play on a ball carrier.   Just because a guy's head gets snapped back because he didn't have his head on a swivel like he should have, does not make it a dirty hit.

His head snapped back because the blocker launched himself into him and hit him directly on the head with his shoulder pad. It was clearly targeting, which is why the player is facing a suspension.

Daily was not in a full upright position, how do you even avoid hitting the guy in the head when you're leading with the shoulder pad.  It's out of control all over the game now, I saw multiple calls on guys for "targeting" over the weekend, when they clearly lead with the shoulder pad. 



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Re: Sad and a hearty LOL . . .
« Reply #39 on: October 14, 2013, 03:59:22 PM »
Leading with the crown of the helmet, targeting the head, or targeting a defenseless player like a QB in the pocket, a trailer etc. etc.  Are perfectly justifiable reasons for flags, ejections, suspensions etc. etc.

But when I see tha play, I see a lead with a shoulder on a defender trying to make a play on a ball carrier.   Just because a guy's head gets snapped back because he didn't have his head on a swivel like he should have, does not make it a dirty hit.

His head snapped back because the blocker launched himself into him and hit him directly on the head with his shoulder pad. It was clearly targeting, which is why the player is facing a suspension.

Daily was not in a full upright position, how do you even avoid hitting the guy in the head when you're leading with the shoulder pad.  It's out of control all over the game now, I saw multiple calls on guys for "targeting" over the weekend, when they clearly lead with the shoulder pad.

Bending your knees and not launching yourself into the air would probably be a good place to start.

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Re: Sad and a hearty LOL . . .
« Reply #40 on: October 14, 2013, 04:01:08 PM »
People just need to learn to block low. There really is no such thing as a "good clean hit" above the shoulders anymore and there really shouldn't be.


so lets just go for his knees instead

Why not shoot for the chest?

Why does no one appreciate the good ol' get up under the shoulder pads and launch the guy a thousand feet anymore?  It's not that hard to aim for the largest part of the body is it?
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Re: Sad and a hearty LOL . . .
« Reply #41 on: October 14, 2013, 04:02:23 PM »
Leading with the crown of the helmet, targeting the head, or targeting a defenseless player like a QB in the pocket, a trailer etc. etc.  Are perfectly justifiable reasons for flags, ejections, suspensions etc. etc.

But when I see tha play, I see a lead with a shoulder on a defender trying to make a play on a ball carrier.   Just because a guy's head gets snapped back because he didn't have his head on a swivel like he should have, does not make it a dirty hit.

His head snapped back because the blocker launched himself into him and hit him directly on the head with his shoulder pad. It was clearly targeting, which is why the player is facing a suspension.

Daily was not in a full upright position, how do you even avoid hitting the guy in the head when you're leading with the shoulder pad.  It's out of control all over the game now, I saw multiple calls on guys for "targeting" over the weekend, when they clearly lead with the shoulder pad.

Bending your knees and not launching yourself into the air would probably be a good place to start.

From what I've seen he bent his knees and his feet never left the ground at all on initial contact.  It's almost impossible to hit a guy at that angle leadinng with the shoulder pads with your feet already off the ground.  The Baylor players hips were square, his feet appear to be planted on the grond and the impact point was his shoulder pads.   


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Re: Sad and a hearty LOL . . .
« Reply #42 on: October 14, 2013, 04:02:49 PM »
Hit was dirty under the rules, its a shame the refs missed such an obvious call. At min it should have been 15.  Gif shows what could be ejectable targeting.

if the roles were reversed you'd say it was a clean hit

Your posting is just so crap-tastic it needs to be recognized.

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« Reply #43 on: October 14, 2013, 04:05:44 PM »
Im glad Dax took over where Manhatter left off when it comes to hip critiquing.
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« Reply #44 on: October 14, 2013, 04:09:13 PM »
1. If it was a dirty hit like the conference deemed, why was he suspended for only a half?

2. How in the hell did the OSU guy who threw the punch last week not get suspended?

The Big 12 Conference seems to give punishments out by wheel spin, random draw, or mad libs.

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« Reply #45 on: October 14, 2013, 04:13:43 PM »
I thought the half game suspension was all the flag was supposed to entail. It's not like they can go back and retroactively suspend him for the remainder of the K-State game. It's possible the punch wasn't brought to the Big 12 for review. :dunno:

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Re: Sad and a hearty LOL . . .
« Reply #46 on: October 14, 2013, 04:13:52 PM »
I wish waters would learn how to throw.

I wish Sams would learn how to throw.

Let's play "Guess the QB!"

QB A: 68.8% completion percentage, 8.18 YPA, Lng of 67, 132.9 rating
QB B: 62.3% completion percentage, 8.49 YPA, Lng of 56, 136.3 rating

Looks like these QBs have pretty similar results throwing the ball.

The only difference is that one of them has an adjusted QBR that is 50.6 points higher, and also averages 6.1 YPC. And one of these QBs has been achieving these stats against Big XII defenses, while the other QB padded his stats against NDSU, Louisiana-Lafayette, and UMASS.

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Re: Sad and a hearty LOL . . .
« Reply #47 on: October 14, 2013, 04:30:39 PM »
I thought the half game suspension was all the flag was supposed to entail. It's not like they can go back and retroactively suspend him for the remainder of the K-State game. It's possible the punch wasn't brought to the Big 12 for review. :dunno:

Those suspensions are intended to be 2 half suspensions, he's getting one. There is no reason why, if he was ruled to be violating the targeting rule, he shouldn't be sitting two halves. I didn't think it was targeting but if they are ruling it that way that officiating crew should be reprimanded for not properly administering a point of emphasis.

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Re: Sad and a hearty LOL . . .
« Reply #48 on: October 14, 2013, 04:38:57 PM »
Dax's grumpy meter might break the 137.5 decibels he was at yesterday!

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Re: Sad and a hearty LOL . . .
« Reply #49 on: October 14, 2013, 04:50:57 PM »
1. If it was a dirty hit like the conference deemed, why was he suspended for only a half?

2. How in the hell did the OSU guy who threw the punch last week not get suspended?

The Big 12 Conference seems to give punishments out by wheel spin, random draw, or mad libs.

Or the UT Mike Davis cheap shot?