Some perspective

[Havs]

I understand this hurts for Wildcat Nation right now, but this might put losing in the ELITE 8 into perspective on where your program has come...

2005:

2008/2010:

There is a lot of respect up here in Cyclone Country for what Frank Martin and this team has accomplished. Little was expected from an unproven AAU coach who inherited a job after his boss bolted after one year in Manhattan. Being successful in the midwest, let alone in the shadow of KU, may be one of the hardest things to do in sports, and K-State did that this year. Take pride in your Elite Wildcats, and congratulations on a great season.

[OK_Cat]

i wish i could hate you.

[waks]

i wish i could hate you.

I can hate him. eff you Haverhill.

[EMAWzified]

I can honestly say right now no one on this board gives a shazbot! about perspective.

[EllToPay]

I understand this hurts for Wildcat Nation right now, but this might put losing in the ELITE 8 into perspective on where your program has come...

2005:

2008/2010:

There is a lot of respect up here in Cyclone Country for what Frank Martin and this team has accomplished. Little was expected from an unproven AAU coach who inherited a job after his boss bolted after one year in Manhattan. Being successful in the midwest, let alone in the shadow of KU, may be one of the hardest things to do in sports, and K-State did that this year. Take pride in your Elite Wildcats, and congratulations on a great season.

eff off

[CatsFan_58]

I can honestly say right now no one on this board gives a shazbot! about perspective.

this.

[slimz]

No.  You can't get this kind of opportunity and not take advantage of it.  You're 5 minutes away from a Final Four.

The thing that sucks about getting old is you realize how rarely you get good opportunities to do something really special.  And when you don't take advantage of them, it's really, really, really depressing.

[CatsFan_58]

No.  You can't get this kind of opportunity and not take advantage of it.  You're 5 minutes away from a Final Four.

The thing that sucks about getting old is you realize how rarely you get good opportunities to do something really special.  And when you don't take advantage of them, it's really, really, really depressing.

this too.

[Trim]

Yeah, would suck to be Iowa State.  Perspective.

[michigancat]

No.  You can't get this kind of opportunity and not take advantage of it.  You're 5 minutes away from a Final Four.

The thing that sucks about getting old is you realize how rarely you get good opportunities to do something really special.  And when you don't take advantage of them, it's really, really, really depressing.

OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THIS ARE ONLY RARE FOR LOSERS.  See dax's fantastic thread.

[Trim]

Haverhill40 I tell KSU fans congrats on a good season, they say F off, are my school and their school rivals??

 

[_33]

No.  You can't get this kind of opportunity and not take advantage of it.  You're 5 minutes away from a Final Four.

The thing that sucks about getting old is you realize how rarely you get good opportunities to do something really special.  And when you don't take advantage of them, it's really, really, really depressing.

OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THIS ARE ONLY RARE FOR LOSERS.  See dax's fantastic thread.

Yeah, going to be fun making these runs every year.  We're not some cinderella you retards.  WE'RE BACK!!

[skycat]

Wow, what a bunch of dicks. Thanks, Haverhill. Your post said it all.

Next year is going to be even better. Nat'l championship is def. possible.

[nicname]

No.  You can't get this kind of opportunity and not take advantage of it.  You're 5 minutes away from a Final Four.

The thing that sucks about getting old is you realize how rarely you get good opportunities to do something really special.  And when you don't take advantage of them, it's really, really, really depressing.

This is such a stupid talking point. 

[slimz]

No.  You can't get this kind of opportunity and not take advantage of it.  You're 5 minutes away from a Final Four.

The thing that sucks about getting old is you realize how rarely you get good opportunities to do something really special.  And when you don't take advantage of them, it's really, really, really depressing.

This is such a stupid talking point.  

Okay.  

Looking forward to our annual Elite Eight runs.

[canadian_breeze]

No.  You can't get this kind of opportunity
and not take advantage of it.  You're 5 minutes away from a Final Four.

The thing that sucks about getting old is you realize how rarely you get good opportunities to do something really special.  And when you don't take advantage of them, it's really, really, really depressing.

This is such a stupid talking point.  

Okay.  

Looking forward to our annual Elite Eight runs.

this
how the hell does one elite eight run mean kstate is 'back'?

[Dugout DickStone]

No.  You can't get this kind of opportunity and not take advantage of it.  You're 5 minutes away from a Final Four.

The thing that sucks about getting old is you realize how rarely you get good opportunities to do something really special.  And when you don't take advantage of them, it's really, really, really depressing.

This is such a stupid talking point. 

I truly hope you are right.

[theKSU]

That game was almost better than anal rape with a rusty pole. :perspective:

[nicname]

No.  You can't get this kind of opportunity
and not take advantage of it.  You're 5 minutes away from a Final Four.

The thing that sucks about getting old is you realize how rarely you get good opportunities to do something really special.  And when you don't take advantage of them, it's really, really, really depressing.

This is such a stupid talking point.  

Okay.  

Looking forward to our annual Elite Eight runs.

this
how the hell does one elite eight run mean kstate is 'back'?

When you suck ass at basketball for the better part of 20 years you aren't going to get many shots.  But is you are at least a top 25 program you will get more opportunities, it isn't that hard to comprehend.  

If I asked you whether KSU hoops was either one of two scenarios

A: On the way up with a solid foundation and Multiple talented players returning, as well as coming in the future.  Not to mention a hungry young coach who in just his third year reached the regional finals.  

B:  A one hit wonder full of irreplacable NBA type talent.  Without a real identity or a sustainable system.

[slimz]

No.  You can't get this kind of opportunity
and not take advantage of it.  You're 5 minutes away from a Final Four.

The thing that sucks about getting old is you realize how rarely you get good opportunities to do something really special.  And when you don't take advantage of them, it's really, really, really depressing.

This is such a stupid talking point.  

Okay.  

Looking forward to our annual Elite Eight runs.

this
how the hell does one elite eight run mean kstate is 'back'?

When you suck ass at basketball for the better part of 20 years you aren't going to get many shots.  But is you are at least a top 25 program you will get more opportunities, it isn't that hard to comprehend.  

If I asked you whether KSU hoops was either one of two scenarios

A: On the way up with a solid foundation and Multiple talented players returning, as well as coming in the future.  Not to mention a hungry young coach who in just his third year reached the regional finals.  

B:  A one hit wonder full of irreplacable NBA type talent.  Without a real identity or a sustainable system.

I'm optimistic for the future, especially the next year or two.  Hopefully recruiting goes well over the next year or two.  There is perhaps one coach in America I'd rather have right now. 

You're right.  The last 20 years does warp our perspective.  I hope in the next 5 years I can look back at tonight as a taste of things to come, rather than a missed opportunity.

Just curious...do you have a real team in mind for example "B," or was it just an alternative?

[Pett]

Haver man, we will always be bros. Thanks for the kind words. EMAC & EMAW.

[ew2x4]

haverhill, delete this thread and repost it in a week. Let us be angry for a moment.

[nicname]

no real team but I was kind of thinking about our Beaz&Bill squad or UK this year.  

Seriously, I think we are going to be good for a long time.  I think we can basically be Okie St. 2.0.  They were good for a long time then sucked for 25 years.  Then Eddie Sutton came in and did a fine job.  

Oklahoma State  (Big 8 Conference/Big 12 Conference) (1990–2006)
1990–1991*    Oklahoma State    24–8    9–4    1st    NCAA Sweet Sixteen
1991–1992    Oklahoma State    28–8    8–6    2nd    NCAA Sweet Sixteen
1992–1993    Oklahoma State    20–9    8–6    2nd    NCAA Second Round
1993–1994    Oklahoma State    24–10    10–4    2nd    NCAA Second Round
1994–1995    Oklahoma State    27–10    10–4    1st    NCAA Final Four
1995–1996    Oklahoma State    17–10    7–7            4th    
1996–1997    Oklahoma State    17–15    7–9            6th    NIT Second Round
1997–1998    Oklahoma State    22–7    11–5    T–2nd    NCAA Second Round
1998–1999    Oklahoma State    23–11    10–6    5th    NCAA Second Round
1999–2000    Oklahoma State    27–7    12–4    T–3rd    NCAA Elite Eight
2000–2001    Oklahoma State    20–10    10–6    5th    NCAA First Round
2001–2002    Oklahoma State    23–9    10–6    T–3rd    NCAA First Round
2002–2003    Oklahoma State    22–10    10–6    4th    NCAA Second Round
2003–2004    Oklahoma State    31–4    14–2    1st    NCAA Final Four
2004–2005    Oklahoma State    26–7    11–5    3rd    NCAA Sweet Sixteen
2005–2006    Oklahoma State    17–15    6–10    7th    NIT First Round

[slimz]

no real team but I was kind of thinking about our Beaz&Bill squad or UK this year.  

Seriously, I think we are going to be good for a long time.  I think we can basically be Okie St. 2.0.  They were good for a long time then sucked for 25 years.  Then Eddie Sutton came in and did a fine job.  

Oklahoma State  (Big 8 Conference/Big 12 Conference) (1990–2006)
1990–1991*    Oklahoma State    24–8    9–4    1st    NCAA Sweet Sixteen
1991–1992    Oklahoma State    28–8    8–6    2nd    NCAA Sweet Sixteen
1992–1993    Oklahoma State    20–9    8–6    2nd    NCAA Second Round
1993–1994    Oklahoma State    24–10    10–4    2nd    NCAA Second Round
1994–1995    Oklahoma State    27–10    10–4    1st    NCAA Final Four
1995–1996    Oklahoma State    17–10    7–7            4th    
1996–1997    Oklahoma State    17–15    7–9            6th    NIT Second Round
1997–1998    Oklahoma State    22–7    11–5    T–2nd    NCAA Second Round
1998–1999    Oklahoma State    23–11    10–6    5th    NCAA Second Round
1999–2000    Oklahoma State    27–7    12–4    T–3rd    NCAA Elite Eight
2000–2001    Oklahoma State    20–10    10–6    5th    NCAA First Round
2001–2002    Oklahoma State    23–9    10–6    T–3rd    NCAA First Round
2002–2003    Oklahoma State    22–10    10–6    4th    NCAA Second Round
2003–2004    Oklahoma State    31–4    14–2    1st    NCAA Final Four
2004–2005    Oklahoma State    26–7    11–5    3rd    NCAA Sweet Sixteen
2005–2006    Oklahoma State    17–15    6–10    7th    NIT First Round

I'd take that in a heartbeat...maybe with 2 more E8 appearances.  But 2 FF in 15 years?  Absolutely.

[wes mantooth]

Hey Haverhill, I wish Farmaggedon never happens so we'd have never met.