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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #25 on: October 09, 2013, 10:14:40 AM »
why do we never run the option anymore?
This is a great question. Snyd's only runs it when Waters is in. Is Daniel that bad of a pitch guy? :confused:

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #26 on: October 09, 2013, 10:21:15 AM »
why do we never run the option anymore?

I am going under the assumption that we didn’t see the option against OSU because we really didn’t see it (with much success) last year against OSU, iirc.  We had some success with CK running QB sweeps/draws (when he wasn’t getting concussed).

 Against Baylor we didn’t really do much successful – but as I remember it our coaches lost their bladder early after Baylor scored at will and had CK chucking it around and throwing INT’s instead of just running it.  Phil’s going to man up and bring pressure, for the life of me why we can’t throw a RB screen (which we actually did last game) or a trips WR jail break screen is beyond me.  Especially with Sams at QB.

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #27 on: October 09, 2013, 10:21:46 AM »
why do we never run the option anymore?
This is a great question. Snyd's only runs it when Waters is in. Is Daniel that bad of a pitch guy? :confused:

Sams ran several read options vs Texas, he did make a few mistakes in his reads though, so that could be part of it. I think we'll see more as the year goes along.

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #28 on: October 09, 2013, 10:23:40 AM »
why do we never run the option anymore?
This is a great question. Snyd's only runs it when Waters is in. Is Daniel that bad of a pitch guy? :confused:

Sams ran several read options vs Texas, he did make a few mistakes in his reads though, so that could be part of it. I think we'll see more as the year goes along.

i'm talking option option, like pitch the ball kind of option though. not the take it or don't take it and then i run option. <------high fball iq post.

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #29 on: October 09, 2013, 10:25:55 AM »
I am going under the assumption that we didn’t see the option against OSU because we really didn’t see it (with much success) last year against OSU, iirc.  We had some success with CK running QB sweeps/draws (when he wasn’t getting concussed).

Last year vs OSU we ran 15% option. Sams ran 1 in 16 run play calls, Klein ran 6 in 38 run calls when he was in. Klein ran 24 QB lead/power plays and Sams ran 12.

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #30 on: October 09, 2013, 10:26:32 AM »
why do we never run the option anymore?
This is a great question. Snyd's only runs it when Waters is in. Is Daniel that bad of a pitch guy? :confused:

Sams ran several read options vs Texas, he did make a few mistakes in his reads though, so that could be part of it. I think we'll see more as the year goes along.

i'm talking option option, like pitch the ball kind of option though. not the take it or don't take it and then i run option. <------high fball iq post.

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #31 on: October 09, 2013, 10:26:40 AM »
why do we never run the option anymore?
This is a great question. Snyd's only runs it when Waters is in. Is Daniel that bad of a pitch guy? :confused:

Sams ran several read options vs Texas, he did make a few mistakes in his reads though, so that could be part of it. I think we'll see more as the year goes along.

i'm talking option option, like pitch the ball kind of option though. not the take it or don't take it and then i run option. <------high fball iq post.

Good question. Sams did run one speed option vs UT, but there was a penalty, otherwise I don't think he's run another one all year.

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #32 on: October 09, 2013, 10:31:15 AM »
I am going under the assumption that we didn’t see the option against OSU because we really didn’t see it (with much success) last year against OSU, iirc.  We had some success with CK running QB sweeps/draws (when he wasn’t getting concussed).

Last year vs OSU we ran 15% option. Sams ran 1 in 16 run play calls, Klein ran 6 in 38 run calls when he was in. Klein ran 24 QB lead/power plays and Sams ran 12.

man, right in their face.  what did sams run against OSU, like 90% qb lead/power?

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #33 on: October 09, 2013, 10:33:37 AM »
man, right in their face.  what did sams run against OSU, like 90% qb lead/power?

I'll have that tomorrow, I haven't charted the game yet.

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #34 on: October 09, 2013, 12:18:09 PM »
options (with a pitch) have the highest chance of a TO. I think that's why we've seen less and less of it in Synder 2.0 compared to 1.0.

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #35 on: October 09, 2013, 12:20:46 PM »
MPMS (more pitch more schwinn)

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #36 on: October 09, 2013, 12:21:07 PM »
why do we never run the option anymore?
This is a great question. Snyd's only runs it when Waters is in. Is Daniel that bad of a pitch guy? :confused:

Sams ran several read options vs Texas, he did make a few mistakes in his reads though, so that could be part of it. I think we'll see more as the year goes along.

i'm talking option option, like pitch the ball kind of option though. not the take it or don't take it and then i run option. <------high fball iq post.

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #37 on: October 09, 2013, 12:23:09 PM »
maybe bill's dementia is kicking in and he thinks Daniel Sams is Daniel Thomas (might answer the 27 carries)  :whistle1:
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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #38 on: October 09, 2013, 12:28:33 PM »
Stud WR Chris Harper was great at blocking on those type of plays.  Our WR's now are just OK.   
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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #39 on: October 09, 2013, 12:30:20 PM »
why do we never run the option anymore?
This is a great question. Snyd's only runs it when Waters is in. Is Daniel that bad of a pitch guy? :confused:

Sams ran several read options vs Texas, he did make a few mistakes in his reads though, so that could be part of it. I think we'll see more as the year goes along.

i'm talking option option, like pitch the ball kind of option though. not the take it or don't take it and then i run option. <------high fball iq post.

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #40 on: October 09, 2013, 12:30:34 PM »
why do we never run the option anymore?
This is a great question. Snyd's only runs it when Waters is in. Is Daniel that bad of a pitch guy? :confused:

Sams ran several read options vs Texas, he did make a few mistakes in his reads though, so that could be part of it. I think we'll see more as the year goes along.

i'm talking option option, like pitch the ball kind of option though. not the take it or don't take it and then i run option. <------high fball iq post.

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #41 on: October 09, 2013, 12:31:22 PM »
Stud WR Chris Harper was great at blocking on those type of plays.  Our WR's now are just OK.

We need WR's that are over 6 foot first of all.
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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #42 on: October 09, 2013, 12:33:41 PM »
Stud WR Chris Harper was great at blocking on those type of plays.  Our WR's now are just OK.

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #43 on: October 09, 2013, 12:33:46 PM »
As Snyder would say, we will take what the defense gives us. If that means Sams has to run the ball 40 times because he is averaging 5.5 YPC, so be it.

Sams is built to take punishment. Klein was tall, lanky and looked extremely fragile, however, the guy had bull testicles and a tolerance for pain unlike any other.

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #44 on: October 09, 2013, 12:35:00 PM »
As Snyder would say, we will take what the defense gives us. If that means Sams has to run the ball 40 times because he is averaging 5.5 YPC, so be it.

Sams is built to take punishment. Klein was tall, lanky and looked extremely fragile, however, the guy had bull testicles and a tolerance for pain unlike any other.

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #45 on: October 09, 2013, 12:36:30 PM »
As Snyder would say, we will take what the defense gives us. If that means Sams has to run the ball 40 times because he is averaging 5.5 YPC, so be it.

Sams is built to take punishment. Klein was tall, lanky and looked extremely fragile, however, the guy had bull testicles and a tolerance for pain unlike any other.
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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #46 on: October 09, 2013, 12:38:25 PM »
As Snyder would say, we will take what the defense gives us. If that means Sams has to run the ball 40 times because he is averaging 5.5 YPC, so be it.

Sams is built to take punishment. Klein was tall, lanky and looked extremely fragile, however, the guy had bull testicles and a tolerance for pain unlike any other.

What in the eff?

To dumb this down, no I'm not concerned about Sams running the ball 20+ times at this point in his career or at this point in our season. He's not a pussy and he can handle the load. He's built to juke LBs and smash D-Backs.

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #47 on: October 09, 2013, 12:44:00 PM »
As Snyder would say, we will take what the defense gives us. If that means Sams has to run the ball 40 times because he is averaging 5.5 YPC, so be it.

Sams is built to take punishment. Klein was tall, lanky and looked extremely fragile, however, the guy had bull testicles and a tolerance for pain unlike any other.

What in the eff?

To dumb this down, no I'm not concerned about Sams running the ball 20+ times at this point in his career or at this point in our season. He's not a pussy and he can handle the load. He's built to juke LBs and smash D-Backs.

I think it was plenty dumb to begin with

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #48 on: October 09, 2013, 12:49:06 PM »
Klein was tall, but not lanky or fragile looking. IMHO.

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #49 on: October 09, 2013, 12:50:53 PM »
Klein  :lol:  more like string-bean


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