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Daniel Running 27 Times
« on: October 09, 2013, 09:08:34 AM »
I don't like this. I mean, I love it because it is our most effective offense and he exciting to watch but I don't like it because I don't want him to be broken down like Collin was. What do we do though? just suck mostly?  :frown:


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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2013, 09:11:56 AM »
it worries me too, steve. seems unsustainable. we absolutely need to get the RBs more involved if we dont want to see jake waters starting again by end of the season.

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2013, 09:12:11 AM »
OK, it's 3rd and 6. Daniel can probably get this first down 90% of the time but we've ran him 28 times already. Or, we can hope that Curry Sexton can shake his defender and get open which is going to happen 0.0005% of the time.  :frown:

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2013, 09:12:21 AM »
Snyder keeps telling himself that he'll break a 55 yd TD. Again...and again
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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2013, 09:16:43 AM »
Hey steve dave on that 3rd and 6 scenario, let's just use Klein. Kyle Klein, that is.  :gocho:

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2013, 09:24:23 AM »
Bill being Bill.

Klein averaged 24 carries a game two years ago. 7 games with at least 25 carries.

Last year down to 16 carries a game and only 1 game with 25 carries.

Hopefully they find a way to get that down to under 20 per game.

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2013, 09:25:02 AM »
it is a concern but Sams doesn't take nearly as many straight on shots as Klein did.  He's just got a different more elusive running style.  Still I would think Hubert would see more carries with Sams in the game then what he did last week.  He's shown he can be an effective runner when he's paired with a good running QB. 

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2013, 09:28:55 AM »
Some of you guys can't be pleased. "Oh running Jake 18 times is too much, run Sams!" "Oh Sams running 25 times is too much, don't run him so much!"

Make up your minds

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2013, 09:34:16 AM »
insert our RB isn't a threat talking point

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2013, 09:36:59 AM »
I haven't broken it down yet, but it will be interesting to see the number of QB lead/power plays we ran vs options and scrambles/sacks. My impression is that most of it was QB run plays for Sams.

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2013, 09:37:48 AM »
I don't mind Sams running 20 times a game if he gets out of bounds more. According to the play-by-play from OSU he only did this 3 times. Unless it's a 3rd or 4th down situation where we have to get the extra yard, I'd prefer if he got his ass out of bounds so we don't see #15 trot out ever again.

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2013, 09:40:31 AM »
This looks like a job for Gronk.

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2013, 09:42:04 AM »
Sams running 20 times is different then Klein taking 20 cares. Sams avoids direct contract more then Klein did. 

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2013, 09:42:44 AM »
Sams getting hurt would be devastating, fwiw

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2013, 09:43:20 AM »
Sams running 20 times is different then Klein taking 20 cares. Sams avoids direct contract more then Klein did.

it's different kinds of contact. collin was more dislocated shoulder'y while daniel is more torn acl'y. you know?

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2013, 09:47:35 AM »
insert our RB isn't a threat talking point

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2013, 09:49:21 AM »
Sams running 20 times is different then Klein taking 20 cares. Sams avoids direct contract more then Klein did.

it's different kinds of contact. collin was more dislocated shoulder'y while daniel is more torn acl'y. you know?

If you're gonna go out, go out with style :gocho:
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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2013, 09:50:17 AM »
Hubert wasn't bad with 7 for 30, but he should be getting 12-15 touches per.

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2013, 09:52:20 AM »
Some of you guys can't be pleased. "Oh running Jake 18 times is too much, run Sams!" "Oh Sams running 25 times is too much, don't run him so much!"

Make up your minds

Now that Sams can throw in a game, it is a perfectly reasonable stance.

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2013, 09:57:08 AM »
Bill being Bill.

Klein averaged 24 carries a game two years ago. 7 games with at least 25 carries.

Last year down to 16 carries a game and only 1 game with 25 carries.

Hopefully they find a way to get that down to under 20 per game.

I think CK's carries correlated with the trust the staff had in him to throw and the same will apply with Sams.  Maybe moreso.  My advice to Daniel is to use the spin move in open field situations rather than close to the LOS.

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2013, 09:58:39 AM »
Bill being Bill.

Klein averaged 24 carries a game two years ago. 7 games with at least 25 carries.

Last year down to 16 carries a game and only 1 game with 25 carries.

Hopefully they find a way to get that down to under 20 per game.

I think CK's carries correlated with the trust the staff had in him to throw and the same will apply with Sams.  Maybe moreso.  My advice to Daniel is to use the spin move in open field situations rather than close to the LOS.
Sams needs to run outside the tackles, Hubert needs to run inside the tackles.

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2013, 10:00:43 AM »
Bill being Bill.

Klein averaged 24 carries a game two years ago. 7 games with at least 25 carries.

Last year down to 16 carries a game and only 1 game with 25 carries.

Hopefully they find a way to get that down to under 20 per game.

I think CK's carries correlated with the trust the staff had in him to throw and the same will apply with Sams.  Maybe moreso.  My advice to Daniel is to use the spin move in open field situations rather than close to the LOS.

Yes, that is a big part of it. Klein averaged 21.6 attempts in 11 and 23.4 in 12.

Hubert's carries went down last year; from 15.4 in 11 to 14.5 in 12. Currently at 13 carries per game this year.

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2013, 10:04:14 AM »
This looks like a job for Gronk.

Gronk has 1 carry for 0 yards. This offense needs more Gronk.

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2013, 10:08:04 AM »
Bill being Bill.

Klein averaged 24 carries a game two years ago. 7 games with at least 25 carries.

Last year down to 16 carries a game and only 1 game with 25 carries.

Hopefully they find a way to get that down to under 20 per game.
That comes with having more confidence in him airing it out. Problem as of now

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Re: Daniel Running 27 Times
« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2013, 10:12:17 AM »
why do we never run the option anymore?