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Re: Coaching Staff
« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2013, 01:18:27 PM »
I cannot remember a worse in-game coaching display than yesterday. Can anyone help me with this?

Texas was worse

Texas was a dumpster fire compared to yesterday. We were playing with one hand tied behind our back without Lockett and Thompson. The Baylor game last year was pretty bad too.

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« Reply #26 on: October 06, 2013, 03:05:37 PM »
Yesterday was the best job the coaches have done all season, and it's not even close.

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« Reply #27 on: October 06, 2013, 03:11:17 PM »
Coach Snyder is a developmental coach. K-State has pretty much had 2 types of seasons under him, developmental years and years where he's had pretty much established teams. With the turnover on defense and at QB I'm not surprised this year is more of a developmental year. And really, this year isn't any better/worse than 01, 04, 05, 09, and 10. Its ugly and not fun, but it is what it is.

This staff doesn't forget how to coach, this is just how they coach (with Snyder in charge). We'll have to see if this developmental year (or years) leads to future success next year or the year after.
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« Reply #28 on: October 06, 2013, 03:14:27 PM »
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Re: Coaching Staff
« Reply #29 on: October 06, 2013, 03:36:30 PM »
Sams will make this season fun if he is allowed to.

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Re: Coaching Staff
« Reply #30 on: October 06, 2013, 03:42:41 PM »
Coach Snyder is a developmental coach. K-State has pretty much had 2 types of seasons under him, developmental years and years where he's had pretty much established teams. With the turnover on defense and at QB I'm not surprised this year is more of a developmental year. And really, this year isn't any better/worse than 01, 04, 05, 09, and 10. Its ugly and not fun, but it is what it is.

This staff doesn't forget how to coach, this is just how they coach (with Snyder in charge). We'll have to see if this developmental year (or years) leads to future success next year or the year after.

What

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« Reply #31 on: October 06, 2013, 03:54:27 PM »
Coach Snyder is a developmental coach. K-State has pretty much had 2 types of seasons under him, developmental years and years where he's had pretty much established teams. With the turnover on defense and at QB I'm not surprised this year is more of a developmental year. And really, this year isn't any better/worse than 01, 04, 05, 09, and 10. Its ugly and not fun, but it is what it is.

This staff doesn't forget how to coach, this is just how they coach (with Snyder in charge). We'll have to see if this developmental year (or years) leads to future success next year or the year after.

What

To be fair, the nature of Snyder's established teams has started with established QBs. But in general, seasons of flux between QBs when no one was an established starter have been mediocre at best.

13 - Waters/Sams 2-3
12 - Klein 11-2
11 - Klein 10-3
10 - Coffman/Klein 7-6
09 - Coffman/Gregory 6-6
05 - Evridge/Webb 5-6
04 - Meier/Webb 4-7
03 - Roberson 11-4
02 - Roberson 11-2
01 - Dunn/Roberson 6-6
00 - Beasley 11-3
99 - Beasley 11-1
98 - Bishop 11-2
97 - Bishop 11-2
96 - Kavanagh 9-3
95 - Miller 10-2
94 - May 9-3
93 - May 9-2-1
92 - Smargiasso/Garber 5-6
91 - Watson 7-4
90 - Straw/Watson 5-6
89 - Straw/Watson 1-10

Of course there are tons of other factors, but Snyder trusting and going with a QB has been the one constant of successful vs mediocre seasons at K-State.

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Re: Coaching Staff
« Reply #32 on: October 06, 2013, 03:59:17 PM »
Jake Waters reminds me a lot of Jason Smargiasso.


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Re: Coaching Staff
« Reply #33 on: October 06, 2013, 03:59:19 PM »
We played 15 games in 2003? Is that a record?

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« Reply #34 on: October 06, 2013, 04:15:16 PM »
We played 15 games in 2003? Is that a record?

2002 was the first year that allowed a 12 game regular season and the special kickoff games (BCA Classic) didn't count toward those 12. Plus the Big 12 Champ game and a bowl game. The kickoff game exception went away in 2005. K-State and 1996 BYU are the only two teams to play 15 games. BYU played a kickoff game, league title game, bowl game (vs us) and at Hawaii, if you play at Hawaii it doesn't count toward your regular schedule.

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« Reply #35 on: October 06, 2013, 05:27:24 PM »
We played 15 games in 2003? Is that a record?

2002 was the first year that allowed a 12 game regular season and the special kickoff games (BCA Classic) didn't count toward those 12. Plus the Big 12 Champ game and a bowl game. The kickoff game exception went away in 2005. K-State and 1996 BYU are the only two teams to play 15 games. BYU played a kickoff game, league title game, bowl game (vs us) and at Hawaii, if you play at Hawaii it doesn't count toward your regular schedule.

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« Reply #36 on: October 06, 2013, 05:56:02 PM »
Jake Waters reminds me a lot of Jason Smargiasso a dumber and MUCH, MUCH less telented version of Jeff George.

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« Reply #38 on: October 06, 2013, 06:18:58 PM »
dickey needs to go, plain and simple
Good Lord....Last year all thought he was a God...

He's still a great coach, we're not all reactionary dumbasses. If Dickey is to blame for those guys and their 10,000,000 false starts yesterday then he gets credit for the low numbers of O line penalties committed since he got here. If you're going to be pissed at Sean for us being down to our 3rd string returner and a guys brain farting and throwing a forward pass on a kick off, I hope he got equal credit for us having the best special return unit in the conference the last 3 years.

There are people on this site who are really good at being facetious, unfortunately many don't know the difference and can't distinguish between a fire sean joke and reality.

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« Reply #39 on: October 06, 2013, 06:28:53 PM »
Admitting I don't know crap about it, could we have changed our snap count process as one of the changes we made because of Joe Bob?
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Re: Coaching Staff
« Reply #40 on: October 06, 2013, 06:42:12 PM »
dickey needs to go, plain and simple
Good Lord....Last year all thought he was a God...

He's still a great coach, we're not all reactionary dumbasses. If Dickey is to blame for those guys and their 10,000,000 false starts yesterday then he gets credit for the low numbers of O line penalties committed since he got here. If you're going to be pissed at Sean for us being down to our 3rd string returner and a guys brain farting and throwing a forward pass on a kick off, I hope he got equal credit for us having the best special return unit in the conference the last 3 years.

There are people on this site who are really good at being facetious, unfortunately many don't know the difference and can't distinguish between a fire sean joke and reality.

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Re: Coaching Staff
« Reply #41 on: October 06, 2013, 07:06:51 PM »
To everyone questioning LHCBS...LHC Bill Snyder has forgotten more about football then most of you have ever known.  In fact, I'd go as far as to say that he's forgotten more about football than even he has ever known.

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« Reply #42 on: October 06, 2013, 07:24:27 PM »
To everyone questioning LHCBS...LHC LHC Bill Snyder has forgotten more about football then most of you have ever known.  In fact, I'd go as far as to say that he's forgotten more about football than even he has ever known.

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« Reply #43 on: October 06, 2013, 07:27:20 PM »
Admitting I don't know crap about it, could we have changed our snap count process as one of the changes we made because of Joe Bob?

I don't even know why we have a snap count when we just snap it at 1 second.
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« Reply #44 on: October 06, 2013, 08:45:32 PM »
Admitting I don't know crap about it, could we have changed our snap count process as one of the changes we made because of Joe Bob?

I don't even know why we have a snap count when we just snap it at 1 second.
If we want to draw the other team off sides, we should wait 'til 0.5 seconds. That will work almost every time!

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« Reply #45 on: October 06, 2013, 08:51:19 PM »
To everyone questioning LHCBS...LHC LHC Bill Snyder has forgotten more about football then most of you have ever known.  In fact, I'd go as far as to say that he's forgotten more about football than even he has ever known.

Had he forgotten so much more than we will ever know to the point that he has forgotten too much?

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« Reply #46 on: October 06, 2013, 10:16:18 PM »
Sams will make this season fun if he is allowed to.
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« Reply #47 on: October 06, 2013, 10:39:14 PM »
Coach Snyder is a developmental coach. K-State has pretty much had 2 types of seasons under him, developmental years and years where he's had pretty much established teams. With the turnover on defense and at QB I'm not surprised this year is more of a developmental year. And really, this year isn't any better/worse than 01, 04, 05, 09, and 10. Its ugly and not fun, but it is what it is.

This staff doesn't forget how to coach, this is just how they coach (with Snyder in charge). We'll have to see if this developmental year (or years) leads to future success next year or the year after.

What

To be fair, the nature of Snyder's established teams has started with established QBs. But in general, seasons of flux between QBs when no one was an established starter have been mediocre at best.

13 - Waters/Sams 2-3
12 - Klein 11-2
11 - Klein 10-3
10 - Coffman/Klein 7-6
09 - Coffman/Gregory 6-6
05 - Evridge/Webb 5-6
04 - Meier/Webb 4-7
03 - Roberson 11-4
02 - Roberson 11-2
01 - Dunn/Roberson 6-6
00 - Beasley 11-3
99 - Beasley 11-1
98 - Bishop 11-2
97 - Bishop 11-2
96 - Kavanagh 9-3
95 - Miller 10-2
94 - May 9-3
93 - May 9-2-1
92 - Smargiasso/Garber 5-6
91 - Watson 7-4
90 - Straw/Watson 5-6
89 - Straw/Watson 1-10

Of course there are tons of other factors, but Snyder trusting and going with a QB has been the one constant of successful vs mediocre seasons at K-State.

Pretty good data, FAN.

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« Reply #48 on: October 07, 2013, 09:19:12 AM »
dickey needs to go, plain and simple
Good Lord....Last year all thought he was a God...

He's still a great coach, we're not all reactionary dumbasses. If Dickey is to blame for those guys and their 10,000,000 false starts yesterday then he gets credit for the low numbers of O line penalties committed since he got here. If you're going to be pissed at Sean for us being down to our 3rd string returner and a guys brain farting and throwing a forward pass on a kick off, I hope he got equal credit for us having the best special return unit in the conference the last 3 years.

There are people on this site who are really good at being facetious, unfortunately many don't know the difference and can't distinguish between a fire sean joke and reality.

admittedly it was a knee jerk reaction, but going back to the discussion last week about tipping plays and then the continuous shooting ourselves in the foot coupled with half assed blocking has me a bit perturbed. its coaching for the most part, hence my frustration.

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« Reply #49 on: October 07, 2013, 09:22:33 AM »
Admitting I don't know crap about it, could we have changed our snap count process as one of the changes we made because of Joe Bob?

I don't even know why we have a snap count when we just snap it at 1 second.

Poor Sams sits back there frantically clapping his hands half the time.  Not sure what the strategy is on that.  If you want to draw someone off, don't you do a hard count?  I have never seen the hand clap as a strategy.